RB Travis Etienne, JAX (1 Viewer)

tangfoot said:

I don’t know this one very well, have previous RBs been able to return to form, or has it been a career killer?

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JohnnyU said:

Overall, it all comes down to the severity of the injury, how it is treated, and player’s ability to overcome injury setbacks. It can be a devastating injury if it is a severe case (Holmes) or mishandled (McFadden), but it is not a certain death-wish as seen by Julio, Bell, and Westbrook.

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tangfoot said:

Thank you for the player comps! 

Given that we have a tweet saying "significant tear" and that he's already declared out for the season, is he a complete DND going forward?  I have a panicked owner trying to offload him at significant discount in dynasty, I'm wondering if he's on the right side of the fence or if I should take a chance on the distressed asset.

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tangfoot said:

Thank you for the player comps! 

Given that we have a tweet saying "significant tear" and that he's already declared out for the season, is he a complete DND going forward?  I have a panicked owner trying to offload him at significant discount in dynasty, I'm wondering if he's on the right side of the fence or if I should take a chance on the distressed asset.

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Deamon said:

It's not a luxury pick.  Basically keep 8 guys each year so round 1 ends up being almost all rookies. Have pick #2 and #14.  Javonte or Pitts at #2 and maybe I still take him at #14 if he slips?

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JohnnyU said:

Julio Jones fractured his Lisfranc in the 2013 season. His next two seasons were career best at the time (albeit with Roddy White retiring) with 104/1593/6 in 2014 and 136/1871/8 in 2015.

Brian Westbrook injured his Lisfranc in 2005. His next two seasons were career best rushing 240/1217/7 and receiving 77/699/4 in 2006 and rushing 278/1333/7 and receiving 90/771/5 in 2007 while only playing 15 games each season.

Le’Veon Bell suffered a minor injury to his Lisfranc in 2013. His next two seasons he rushed 290/1361/8 and received 83/854/3 in 2014 and rushed 113/556/3 and received 24/136/0 over 6 games in 2015.

MJD injured his Lisfranc in 2012. He only played one full season after that and his production dipped by nearly 50% in 2013 when he rushed 234/803/5 and received 43/314/0.

Santonio Holmes severely injured his Lisfranc in 2012. The next season he had a sharp decline receiving 23/456/1 over 11 games in 2013. In 2014, he played less than 250 snaps and retired.

Cedric Benson injured his Lisfranc in 2012. He never played another snap after that.

Ronnie Brown injured his Lisfranc in 2009. He declined in 2010 by rushing 200/734/5 and receiving 33/242/0. He was relegated to backup duties in 2011 and never regained the job.

After a breakout year, Darren McFadden injured his Lisfranc in 2011. His next season he declined sharply rushing for 215/707/2 and receiving for 42/258/1.

After being drafted 9th overall in 2007, Ted Ginn Jr. injured his Lisfranc prior to his rookie season. He never reached his potential and put up less than 40 catches and 500 yards in 5 of his first 6 seasons while battling injuries.

Overall, it all comes down to the severity of the injury, how it is treated, and player’s ability to overcome injury setbacks. It can be a devastating injury if it is a severe case (Holmes) or mishandled (McFadden), but it is not a certain death-wish as seen by Julio, Bell, and Westbrook

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Ilov80s said:

Great work and I appreciate it. Impossible to say how much the injury played in some of those declines. Ginn might never have worked out regardless of his foot injury. Benson was 30, on his 3rd team and wasn't playing well before the foot injury but yeah it's a really bad injury. 

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Hot Sauce Guy said:

• for those (like me) who weren’t planning to draft him, but wanted someone else to do so in the 5th-Ish so someone I did want would fall to me. 

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FreeBaGeL said:

Well now instead someone will draft Jrob in the 2nd/3rd so that should be even better in terms of pushing talent down a bit. 

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Hot Sauce Guy said:

Mocking tonight he’s been consistently going in the 4th. 

I like him less than some of the 5th round RBs.

So good point.

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Tanner9919 said:

didn't Robert Smith have a Lisfranc injury, as well as H.A.S and other ailments? FINALLY put it all together to lead the league in rushing but it took a long time.

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Cobbler1 said:

Which 5th round rbs do you like better?

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JohnnyU said:

I suppose it depends on the risk you're willing to take. In dynasty leagues, my guess is giving a future 2nd is the type of risk worth taking if you believe that 2nd will be no better than mid to late.

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Tornacl said:

How far do you think he falls in Dynasty drafts that haven't happened yet? 

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Hot Sauce Guy said:

I really liked what I saw in Gaskin. Looked explosive & clearly the best RB in that backfield. It wasn’t close. 

Henderson as well. I think he has more opportunity in a better offense. 

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Cobbler1 said:

Gaskin did look really really good. I don’t think Henderson has a 5th round ADP. Thanks for the response.

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Tornacl said:

How far do you think he falls in Dynasty drafts that haven't happened yet? 

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Hot Sauce Guy said:

I’ve been live mocking for the last 3 hours. He’s gone 5th 4x and 4th once. In a draft to the guy who started Kelce/Kittle 1.12/2.01, so take that with a grain of salt. 

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BigTex said:

Interesting question, I have my draft this Sunday and have the 4th and 10th pick. He’ll likely fall to me, if I had to guess it will be between Pitts and ETN or in another case Chase and ETN. It’s a TE premo and I’m set at RB so I don’t need him or I can afford let him sit a year to heal with no worries.

Tex

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Cobbler1 said:

Live mocking is fun and all but ultimately anyone’s personal experience is a tiny tiny tiny sample compared to the ADPs across thousands of drafts. He’s at 35 on FFCalc and 45 on Sleeper.

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BigTex said:

Interesting question, I have my draft this Sunday and have the 4th and 10th pick. He’ll likely fall to me, if I had to guess it will be between Pitts and ETN or in another case Chase and ETN. It’s a TE premo and I’m set at RB so I don’t need him or I can afford let him sit a year to heal with no worries.

Tex

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BigTex said:

Interesting question, I have my draft this Sunday and have the 4th and 10th pick. He’ll likely fall to me, if I had to guess it will be between Pitts and ETN or in another case Chase and ETN. It’s a TE premo and I’m set at RB so I don’t need him or I can afford let him sit a year to heal with no worries.

Tex

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Hot Sauce Guy said:

Just sucks all around for FF.

• for those who drafted him already. 
• for those who intended to draft hiM

• for those (like me) who weren’t planning to draft him, but wanted someone else to do so in the 5th-Ish so someone I did want would fall to me. 

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battlestar said:

Not quite all around .

I’m part of a small but happy (but still kinda sad, ‘cause we’re human after all and this is a young man’s life for Pete’s sake!) group who only own Robinson.

Feeling much better about Swift-Robinson as my RB 2-3 than I was just yesterday(dynasty).

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Hot Sauce Guy said:

well, Swift isn’t exactly a sure thing right now but I get it. Robinson owners can’t be too upset. 

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Jaguars RB Travis Etienne (Lisfranc) will undergo foot surgery Thursday.

The procedure will be performed by noted expert Dr. Robert Anderson, who has performed hundreds of foot and ankle surgeries on NFL athletes from his offices in Wisconsin. 23-year-old Etienne, who has already been placed on season-ending IR, is expected to recover for up to four months, plenty of time to return to training camp next year in full health. James Robinson remains a middle-of-the-road RB2 in his short-term stead.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Sep 2, 2021, 7:46 AM ET

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Jaguars RB Travis Etienne (foot) said he could have returned this season but doctors wanted to make sure he was 100 percent recovered from September Lisfranc surgery. 

Etienne underwent foot surgery after suffering the season-ending injury in a preseason game against the Saints. The rookie first-round pick may have made a late-season comeback if the Jaguars were a competitive team. Unfortunately, they are not. James Robinson muscled his way into an every-down role despite disgraced former head coach Urban Meyer continually trying to make Carlos Hyde the Jags' primary back. Etienne was expected to be used as something of a hybrid player in Meyers' offense. Whether he'll be used on early downs as well as in passing situations will be up to the team's next head coach. Robinson, meanwhile, is signed through the 2022 NFL season. 

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SOURCE: Eugene Frenette on Twitter 

Jan 10, 2022, 10:32 AM ET

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Jaguars RB Travis Etienne (Lisfranc surgery) expects to be ready for offseason workouts. 

Etienne was cleared to ramp up his workouts last week and has been running since January. The second-year back put his health in the "80 percent range." With James Robinson (Achilles) sidelined, Etienne should get the majority of reps in OTAs after a lost rookie year. There was talk of moving Etienne to receiver before his injury, a role Jamal Agnew played under Urban Meyer. How quickly Robinson returns will determine how Etienne is used in 2022.

SOURCE: The Players Podcast

Feb 18, 2022, 6:29 PM ET

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Tuesday, Etienne met with reporters to update them on his recovery. He said he was 85 to 90 percent recovered from his Lisfranc injury, via 1010 XL, which shows his rehab has him on the right track. Etienne also had an interesting comment about missing his rookie season.

The 2021 campaign for the Jaguars was more about off-field issues as opposed to their on-field issues. Head coach Urban Meyer was fired less than one year into his new gig, and provided plenty of distractions that hurt this team. When Etienne was asked by a reporter if he was glad he didn't have to go through the week-to-week grind in what was not the best environment, Etienne admitted he somewhat was. 

"Na, na, definitely. That's just the human element of it, just seeing the results you're definitely like, 'Phew, if there was any year to miss, I missed a great one,'" Etienne said with a smile. 

Etienne was a formidable dual-threat weapon during his time in Clemson, and helped the Tigers win four ACC titles and a national title in 2018. According to Clemson's official website, Etienne is the NCAA FBS record holder for most career games scoring a touchdown -- 46 of his 55 career games. In all, he rushed for 4,952 yards and 70 touchdowns in four seasons. 

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zamboni said:

With Robinson having torn his Achilles and the severity unknown, Etienne’s own Lisfranc recovery may be an even bigger story in the off-season now.

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Bri said:

I'd want to know what the market is for one of them. The Jags are in rebuild mode and an oft losing team doesn't need (if) two top backs playing from behind. 

Probably the market is poor as RBs are cheap and they're overcoming injury BUT I would absolutely see if one could be traded. Turning that into another starter is most important

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Bri said:

I'd want to know what the market is for one of them. The Jags are in rebuild mode and an oft losing team doesn't need (if) two top backs playing from behind. 

Probably the market is poor as RBs are cheap and they're overcoming injury BUT I would absolutely see if one could be traded. Turning that into another starter is most important

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wgoldsph said:

Would he fetch a 3rd?  Would the Jags accept anything less?

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Ilov80s said:

There’s no market for Robinson. He tore his Achilles, he’s not a great talent, there’s not a ton of teams in major need for a RB, there’s a lot of RBs in this draft and this is the last year of his contract. 
 

And why would the Jags trade ETN? Who is going to play RB for them? Aren’t they trying to help Lawrence develop? Isn’t ETN Lawrence’s security blanket and friend? 

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travdogg said:

Frankly, I think there is a better chance that they add another RB (like a 3rd/4th round guy) than trade anyone. 

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Ilov80s said:

There’s no market for Robinson. He tore his Achilles, he’s not a great talent, there’s not a ton of teams in major need for a RB, there’s a lot of RBs in this draft and this is the last year of his contract. 

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rockaction said:

I've had a hard time restraining myself from commenting over people giving up early second-round picks for him in fantasy. 

Makes no sense.

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menobrown said:

Feel like that's what he's worth myself, certainly would not give him up for less but I feel like I've been arguing against him being some kind of compiler for a long time now. 

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rockaction said:

Fair enough. We’ve discussed it before and have slightly different conclusions. He didn’t have enough burst to lose, IMO. 

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zed2283 said:

So maybe it doesn't affect him as much then?

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