Something I haven’t posted yet but I’m bored waiting for the closing arguments: when the tape was released with Trump saying “Take her out”, for just a moment I truly thought the implication was to kill her. A failing on my part, watching too many crime movies, but scary that that’s even remotely plausible to consider re: a comment made by a sitting President about one of his ambassadors.
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***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread*** (8 Viewers)
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Dickies
Footballguy
Prosecutor: The defendant’s gun with his fingerprints on it was found at the scene of the murder. Ballistics testing shows the bullet was fired from this type of gun. We still don’t have an alibi explaining where the defendant was the night of the murder
Defense: This trial is a hoax! It’s not our job to prove the defendant’s innocence!
cosjobs
Footballguy
mrip541
Footballguy
I don't have squeegee kids around me but do see guys providing full service mobile car wash in your parking space. Squeegee kids, evolved!
SaintsInDome2006
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Godsbrother
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OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
My 25 year old son drew a 2 foot long donger in the condensation on my windshield 4 days ago. I keep forgetting to get out the Windex so every morning it reappears.
timschochet
Footballguy
John Kelly: “John Bolton is a man of honor. I believe him.”
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Jeff is phenomenal. So is Rick Wilson. Both hit the nail on the head with every Tweet.
Listening to MSNBC this morning all the chatter in the Senate seems to point towards Bolton testifying and now looking how to respond. There’s talk about witness exchange and also bringing the manuscript into to a SCIF for Senators to read before voting. The circus McConnell wanted to avoid is here.
And it was directed at Lev Parnas, a known underworld thug. You know who had the power to fire her at any time? Trump. So what exactly is he instructing Parnas to do?
I have a buddy who runs a detailing business around here. Apparently he does pretty well with it, but it's not for me.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I've been trying to keep up but have certainly missed some things (pages)...who else was in the room when Trump said "get rid of her, take her out"? Was he speaking TO Parnas or just with him in the room? More specifically, could Trump have been speaking to Pompeo or Barr?
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Yep. He didn't say "I'm going to fire her for that". It is, IMO, exactly what @pecorino first instinct was.
The General
Footballguy
Yup. Besides that they didn’t even ask.Love the comment directly underneath that tweet
cosjobs
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
It would be awesome. I’ll believe it when I see it.
This Kelly comment might make a difference; who knows?
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
It seems this small group of Republicans have all the power on deciding who the witnesses are. I hope they only want Bolton and the Democrats get on board.
cosjobs
Footballguy
Maggie Haberman Retweeted
Manu Raju
“Mr Bolton probably has some things that would be helpful for us and we‘ll figure out how we might be able to learn that,” Lisa Murkowksi says
He also told someone that she's going to be 'going through some things' shortly. He speaks exactly like a mobb boss. And this is about an American citizen. A great one with years of service to our country.
cosjobs
Footballguy
I also want to hear from Mulvaney, Barr, and Pompeo, with a little Rudy for Dessert.
Parnas’ lawyer said that they didn’t believe it was directed a Parnas but a WH aide that was also there. Still not someone in a position to do anything. Of course if it was Trump ordering a hit, Parnas probably wouldn’t want to implicate himself in the scheme.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
15 minutes to resumption of activity. I'm interested. I'll follow along.
cosjobs
Footballguy
Yeah, we he categorically denied the surveillance stuff, I began to really wonder what nefarious things he might have been up to
the moops
Footballguy
This would be so much must watch TV. This guy is such a trainwreck yet can't not talk about all the illegal/stupid things he has done. You just need to give him the mic and an audience and ask him to explain all his Ukraine dealings and. 3 hours later we would still all be glued to our televisions.
They have all the power because they're the only ones vulnerable to losing their seat in November.
I'm not sure if the Senators individually have a vote on which witnesses are called. I could be wrong. I just haven't heard how that will go. There will definitely be negotiations (or a big stand off) where Republicans will want to call a bunch of non-relevant witnesses like Hunter and Joe Biden, the whistleblower, and Adam Schiff in excahnge for actual material witnesses like Bolten.
Dickies
Footballguy
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Even if it wasn't directed at Parnas, it seems like something the President probably shouldn't be discussing in the presence of someone without security clearance.
This is a very complicated case. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man.
E Street Brat
Footballguy
Serious question. Adam Schiff bored to death on day 1 and I haven't watched since,
Has anything been proven that DJT asked for or demanded a public announcement by the Ukrainians of a Biden investigation?
Has anything been proven that DJT asked for or demanded a public announcement by the Ukrainians of a Biden investigation?
snitwitch
Footballguy
dems making a play for release of mueller GJ materials in connection with impeachment proceedings: https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/480289-house-dems-say-trump-impeachment-defense-contradicts-doj-in-mueller
Information just came out yesterday that Bolten directly heard Trump say it several times. Now the GOP will fight to keep him from saying it under oath.
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the moops
Footballguy
She was the white hat fighting corruption in Ukraine. The people wanting to benefit from corruption in Ukraine wanted her gone and that included Trump, Rudy and their associates.
cosjobs
Footballguy
Oh what a tangled web we weave...
Lawyers for the House Democrats sought to use remarks by Trump lawyer Ken Starr on Monday to its advantage in a case over access to grand jury materials from former special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe.
In that case, lawmakers and the White House have argued over whether the impeachment trial qualifies as a "judicial proceeding," which would give House Democrats a stronger claim to the Mueller evidence. The Justice Department, on behalf of the Trump administration, has argued that impeachment is not a judicial proceeding
“The Senate is a court," Starr said Monday during the impeachment proceedings. "In fact, history teaches us that for literally decades, this body was referred to in this context as the high court of impeachment. So we are not a legislative chamber during these proceedings. We are in a tribunal. We are in court.”
My understanding is that they will first vote on allowing witnesses. If that passes then they go to voting on each individual witness.
cosjobs
Footballguy
If Schiff's indiferrence bothered you, I'm surprised you did not smash your tv as the Repubs strolled back and forth to the cloak room and the chocolate desk during the Dem managers' testimony.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Exactly...doesn't say fire her...doesn't instruct someone who can actually do it...so it should be something Trump should have to answer the question...what do you expect Parnas to do when saying that?
msommer
Footballguy
"Where does the bleach go?"I know this isn't a literal statement, but I have a hard time envisioning this administration having the capabilities to remove all traces given how the digital platforms are set up, protected and backed up. They better start on that right now if they want any shot of being done by November
E Street Brat
Footballguy
cosjobs
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Noice.
Also, I knew there was a reason I liked NOLA. I thought it was the good food and good booze, but maybe I just feel at home there.
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the moops
Footballguy
And Ambassador Sondland's testimony. And Ambassador Taylor. And Chief of Staff Mulaney. And...
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Given his history, that would take some doing. Yet millions of voters will think exactly that.
We live in the most curious time.
That one guy
Footballguy
Am I over-simplifying the defense as being that impeachment guidelines are purposefully vague, therefore making the process inherently political, and with no codified definition/parameters that any attempt is illegitimate?
E Street Brat
Footballguy
So nothing new or provable since the House Hearings........ Thanks
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