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***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread*** (3 Viewers)
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
the moops
Footballguy
What is so magical about this one year cutofff? And somehow I wonder this excuse of timing would be used regardless of when an impeachment occurred.
"he has been president less than a year - you can't impeach and tale away what the voters wanted!'
"the midterms are right around the corner, let's have the new Congress decide his fate. we must wait until after that election!"
on and on and on
timschochet
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Oh, so close! Do you want to see Bolton testify? Why do you think the Republicans are fighting it?
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Good posting except for the fact that Bernie is a much better candidate than a guy who is running in slo motion. Trump would be torpedoing himself by taking out Biden.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Unless you are nipping at the bait to keep him trolling so he gets banned, why are you engaging?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Lol. I'm trying to keep him trolling? I'm not going to comment on his posting style. It's against the rules. Keep it on topic please.
There are some who complain that Trump supporters can't post here. This is a prime example of why it can nearly impossible to have an honest conversation. Stlrams, I mean.
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TheMagus
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That article is wrong. The Democrats tried to pass an amendment to the impeachment rules so that Roberts would determine the relevancy of evidence but the Republicans voted it down. The Senate votes on the subpoenas.
ETA: It appears the article is arguing that the Senate doesn't need to vote on subpoenas and the House managers naturally have subpoena power which may be valid, but that isn't how this is going to work. The Senators are going to vote on the subpoenas.
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
I agree, although one could argue that the Trump supporters capable of engaging in discussion have been run off leaving the ones who don't.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
If the Republics don't call Bolton and his book comes out confirming what Donald did, that's going to be a bad look for them. Even low interest voters understand a cover up when they see one out in the open.
Yes let’s hear what he has to say or at least get the manuscript rather then relying on what the media says via their anonymous sources that everyone loves to run with..
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
What ever happened to that banner. I mean I know they could make up another to have him stand in front of it but it would not be as compelling as having the original. A piece of Americana like that hopefully has been preserved, maybe in the Smithsonian.
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I am starting to wonder about how much more we can get out of Bolton if he repeats that the President told him the aid was held back until Ukraine started an investigation into the Bidens. It could be a bit of “we already know that from the NYT article, what else do you have to say?” And if the only way is to get this is to make it is a kangaroo court about the Bidens, I don’t like it.
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Ditkaless Wonders
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Ah, I found my answer. The Bush Presidential Library.
https://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/18/political.circus/index.html
Turns out the Library does not have the complete set of first edition Curious George Books. Whoever told me that is wrong!
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timschochet
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President Trump’s tweets these morning seem to indicate that, given the choice, he would prefer not to have witnesses.
A curious decision to not have people who could exonerate oneself testify in their defense.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Several have testified corroborating what we know of the leak so far.
And only one side is pushing for Bolton to testify.
apalmer
Footballguy
You're right. Since the actual manuscript can't be provided, it's too bad there's no way to find out what Bolton actually knows and says. Somebody ought to invent some way to do that. Maybe we could even come up with a catchy name for it like "witness testimony">
Sheriff Bart
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Maybe we let the voters decide against these senators...but the actions of the President aren't jsut those that you ignore and let the voters decide. As has been pointed out...that sets the precedent that in the last year and a half of a term that any president can do what they want...because, you know, we need to let the voters decide.
Far left? You think Nancy is on the far left? You think the far left were the only ones calling for his impeachment?
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sho nuff
Footballguy
If the GOP would allow witnesses and honestly look at what aTrump did...the remedy would be removal. Because its coming to the point already that they admit he did what has been claimed.
Its a political act because the GOP are making it so.
apalmer
Footballguy
Less of a conflict of interest than Republican Senators who have accepted large campaign contributions from members of Trump's legal team.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
I heard on POTUS Radio that even if Trump is impeached he can still run again for POTUS as the Republican candidate. Is that correct?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
For the first time since this all started, between yesterday and today, there’s about a 1% chance he does get removed. It’s still obviously very unlikely but it’s infinitely more likely than it was before the Bolton leaks when that chance was 0.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Hershey? Heresy? Hearsay?
Assuming you mean the latter, hearsay testimony is very likely permitted in this sort of hearing.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
Which is kind of funny given Graham now wants to see the manuscript. It's even more funny coming from Graham that he wants to see the manuscript but doesn't want the witnesses
Workhorse
Footballguy
I swear to God, I just read this post in Brick Tamland's voice from Anchorman and I can't stop giggling.
The Commish
Footballguy
He's already been impeached. If he's removed, he can't run for President again, but that's not going to happen. Not even worth discussing that scenario at this point.
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Heard on the radio about a Nadler and Schumer video from Clintons impeachment. Anything to it?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
801(d) Statements That Are Not Hearsay. A statement that meets the following conditions is not hearsay:
(2) An Opposing Party’s Statement. The statement is offered against an opposing party and:
(A) was made by the party in an individual or representative capacity;
(B) is one the party manifested that it adopted or believed to be true;
(C) was made by a person whom the party authorized to make a statement on the subject;
(D) was made by the party’s agent or employee on a matter within the scope of that relationship and while it existed; or
(E) was made by the party’s coconspirator during and in furtherance of the conspiracy.
803 The following are not excluded by the rule against hearsay, regardless of whether the declarant is available as a witness:
(3) Then-Existing Mental, Emotional, or Physical Condition.A statement of the declarant’s then-existing state of mind (such as motive, intent, or plan) or emotional, sensory, or physical condition (such as mental feeling, pain, or bodily health), but not including a statement of memory or belief to prove the fact remembered or believed unless it relates to the validity or terms of the declarant’s will.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
And he wants to view the manuscript (which is going to be sold on Amazon) in a SCIF.Which is kind of funny given Graham now wants to see the manuscript. It's even more funny coming from Graham that he wants to see the manuscript but doesn't want the witnesses
The Commish
Footballguy
And he wants to view the manuscript (which is going to be sold on Amazon) in a SCIF.Which is kind of funny given Graham now wants to see the manuscript. It's even more funny coming from Graham that he wants to see the manuscript but doesn't want the witnesses
Can't make this stuff up
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I realize Przybyla almost kills it but she does force Stefanik to step in and say yep that's the 'corruption' for Trump, it was Biden+Crowdstrike. Also let's face it Zeldin was about to go on a stemwinder with no content.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
She seemed to chime in when he wouldn't answer the question asked. It gets annoying...but at the same time, I wish more reporters would force the answers to what they are asking.
Too often we get the bogus non-answer and they move on. Nobody is pressed on the actual questions.
E Street Brat
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Yeah, all this “we don’t have the votes” stuff screams Lucy with the football to me.
In the long run, that will help the Democrats more than having them.
Even with witnesses, no matter how damaging Bolton's testimony is, there's still a 0% chance that enough GOP Senators vote to remove him from office. So the ones who are in swing states and in jeopardy of losing their seats in November will be 'allowed' to vote for removal, because McConnell knows he easily has the numbers.
But if those same swing state senators vote for no witnesses, their opponents will have a field day with ads calling them out on their cover-up cooperation.
Losing Senate seats would be brutal for the GOP.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Interesting question. If he is removed from office before serving a full term does that count as a term in office or could he still serve two full terms in addition to the partial term he has served?
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Quick reference if you have it handy. Otherwise, obviously, I can look for myself.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
B.J.'s are fine. Perjuring oneself to deny a victim a rightful recovery, and doing so hoping the majesty of one's office will protect one from Court oversight when the court has already been somewhat deferential is another matter. It is a question of whether presidents are above the law and whether the courts are a co-equal branch of government.
He could have simply told the truth and accepted his medicine. Now we find ourselves here, years later, with a man who seems unacquainted with truth at all.
apalmer
Footballguy
Can't run for another term if it means his total would be to serve more than 10 years per Constitution, if that still means anything.
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