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Eh this whole ‘the House did enough evidence’ argument proves too muck. 19 witnesses, Bolton’s book, a 40 page whistleblower report that went through an IG, CIA counsel, DOJ counsel, WH counsel, Trump public statements, 3 indictments in SDNY.... that’s not a low bar.
When Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about a BJ and then not removed from office.
This thread always had one ending, but it was never solely about the end result. The R’s were never removing Trump from office and the D’s were always voting him off.
Apparently none for Trump.
Meh, it's just par for the course. Clinton was acquitted for perjury and obstruction of justice and he's still invited to all the ex president parties. We survived.
Doesn't it actually prove the effectiveness of Trump's abuse of power? Even without getting the "investigation" he wanted, he has managed to damage Biden's reputation and electibility.After an embarrassing Iowa Caucus that called into question the integrity of their party, and also revealed Biden to not be an actual contender for president (which negates the entire premise of the impeachment hoax), and after a SOTU in which the Democrats showed their ### booing American prosperity and American heroes (many of them women and minorities), and going into the final vote to acquit Trump from their latest deranged attempt to overthrow the president.....
Mitt ####### Romney is their hero.
and there it is, a nice built in excuse for whatever happens to whomever, always going to be 'Trumps' fault. I have a feeling we will be hearing this POV a lot in the coming months
It’s basically the entire case the Republicans presented. “The President wasn’t interested in the Bidens, only in Ukrainian corruption, but while we are here we really need to investigate the Bidens”
One of the funny ironies in all of this is just how unnecessary the Ukraine extortion was when Rudy, George Solomon, and Fox News were perfectly capable of amplifying the message themselves.
There was also no need for Trump to use Rudy and his cronies to go after Yovanovitch. She serves at your pleasure. Just replace her and be done with it. Instead he has to try and stain her reputation. The guy just enjoys attacking people even when there's no reason for it. I think there's a name for people like that but I can't think of it right now.
IIRC that number was cited by Republicans (may have been 17) as to why no more witnesses were needed, including Bolton, Duffy, OMB, etc.
I do too even though I have no f’n clue what they are talking about. I’ve always wanted to be better at chess, but it’s a total mystery to me
I'm exactly the same as you. Love the idea of it, can't even begin to grasp basics.
I would include the senators ignoring the rule of law by blocking witnesses and evidence, too. First time in the history of the US for impeachment hearings.
Impeachment was always a political gamble with an R senate and this one failed miserably. Along with the Russia scam and now his highest job approval ratings of all time, Democrats have handed Trump the most beautiful 2020 re-election gift.
Yea.. I think you are reading this wrong.. take todays "victory" speech.. Trump is showing his true colors.. and that is not a good thing. Especially for the Senate.. You know the truth is going to come out. And when it does.. it is going to take down the Rep Senate that did not allow the truth to come out.
Over half the country wanted him impeached and removed from office, so I'd say the average voter cared quite a bit.
A lot of people would agree he deserves to be impeached. I certainly would. That’s a separate question from whether he should be impeached over an inconsequential phonecall however.
No, that's what I was talking about. This specific impeachment.
Well, Russia attacked us during the last Presidential election, whether you chose to believe it or not.
So does the DOJ investigate Hunter now or is there a silent auction at Mar-A-Lago or something for the privilege to do so? I don't know how any of this works any longer.
It wouldn't surprise me if we don't hear about CORRUPTION IN UKRAINE!!!!111! ever again.
Wow. So now Mayor Pete is a terrorist. And he had some weird camo suit on that trump would never wear. No. Words.
Well, Fox execs are probably periodically concerned that they step so far over the line that even their most poorly informed viewers will see it for what it is.
Love that photo. He looks like the older brother Chet in the movie Weird Science. Its a good look.
If only he could be in a debate with Trump and proclaim “You’re stewed buttwad”**
OMG the people outraged about Kaepernick will probably burn the WH down upon hearing this!
Nope...saw a comment elsewhere that in addition to being removed from his position he should be court martialled.
Yeah, I know. It was racism, not disrespecting the troops. The KKK hides under hoods because they're cowards. Social media has become that hood. 
Hopefully, the people of Maine have learned their lesson and vote her out in November.
