Faust 5,271 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) Packers could be without Jimmy Graham vs. Broncos in Week 3 Excerpt: Quote Another potential sign that Graham could miss Sunday’s game is that the team signed TE Evan Baylis to the 53-man roster. That doesn’t guarantee Graham will miss the game as the Packers had an open roster spot available after trading away Trevor Davis. It could just be that they are preparing for the worst-case scenario by having Baylis available to play. Should Graham sit out of the game, it’ll be interesting to see how the Packers use Robert Tonyan, who has so far played on just under a third of the team’s offensive snaps this season, according to Pro Football Reference. Could Tonyan see an increased role? And would he be able to give the team another receiving threat while also being relied on to block? Edited October 6, 2020 by Faust Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Quote Jimmy Graham (groin) is reportedly expected to be available for the Packers' Week 3 matchup against the Broncos. Still, Graham didn't return to practice until Friday this week, meaning a snap count is certainly a possibility. Graham has caught 3-of-6 targets for 30 yards and a score this season, functioning as one of fantasy's most touchdown-dependent players. Anyone other than Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Jones and Davante Adams is best approached with caution inside of a Packers offense presently averaging a mediocre 4.3 yards per play. SOURCE: Rob Demovsky on Twitter. Sep 20, 2019, 1:33 PM ET Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Aaron Rodgers likes Robert Tonyan as move TE for Packers Packers QB Aaron Rodgers sees big things in Robert Tonyan's future Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Quote Zach Kruse @zachkruse2 If Jimmy Graham can't play Sunday, I'll be excited to see Robert Tonyan in a significant role. It's possible the offense could operate more smoothly with 85. He's just a better fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Packers Friday Musings: Robert Tonyan could be overlooked in midst of tight end changes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Packers notebook: Confidence rising in TE Robert Tonyan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Time for TE Robert Tonyan to be Packers' version of George Kittle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 Quote The Athletic's Matt Schneidman expects Robert Tonyan to open the season as the Packers' top pass-catching tight end. Sophomore Jace Sternberger simply isn't ready after catching just three passes as a rookie and spending part of camp on the reserve/COVID-19 list. Tonyan has 14 catches for 177 yards and two scores over the last two seasons while flashing in the preseasons at times. With Jimmy Graham now in Chicago, his departure opened 60 targets from last year. Tonyan could have some spiked weeks as an athletic former college wideout. RELATED: Jace Sternberger SOURCE: The Athletic Sep 2, 2020, 11:01 AM ET Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casting Couch 440 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 On 8/21/2020 at 6:37 AM, Faust said: Time for TE Robert Tonyan to be Packers' version of George Kittle? Grab Grab Grab in all dynasty leagues, before the secret gets out. This kid has all the tools. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,286 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I'm all stocked up in 2TE dynasty leagues... looking to add in my regular TE Premium leagues too. Wheels up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 9,033 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Is there a "meh" emoji? Feels like everyone has been chasing fool's gold in GB at the TE position for years now. It's said to be a rotation & my expectations for this dude are super low. O/U ~25 receptions, 270 yards, 1.5 TD? meh. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 9,033 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 hmmm...maybe I'm off - he's sittin there on my dynasty FA list. I could throw a couple bucks at him. We just pared down our rosters & I don't see anyone to drop for him though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Iceman03 526 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said: hmmm...maybe I'm off - he's sittin there on my dynasty FA list. I could throw a couple bucks at him. We just pared down our rosters & I don't see anyone to drop for him though. You should try: https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/robert-tonyan/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 9,033 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Iceman03 said: You should try: https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/robert-tonyan/ He's also a dude who was a UDFA in 2017, who is expected to be used in a rotation. So being the "starting receiving TE" is a bit of a misnomer. It's hard to get excited about a Packers TE since their TEs have had 5 TDs over a 2 year span. Everyone looking for the next Finley or Franks seems to be disappointed every year. Graham had 38/447/3 & 55/636/2 on 89 & 60 targets, respectively. If that's the ceiling, I'm not seeing a whole lot to get excited about here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 Quote Robert Tonyan caught five passes for 50 yards and a touchdown in Week 3 against the Saints. The yards were a season high for Tonyan. He’s now started and scored in consecutive weeks with rookie TE Josiah Deguara sidelined. Tonyan would be a streaming option for a Monday night matchup with the Falcons if Deguara remains out next week. Sep 28, 2020, 12:14 AM ET Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Packers Depth Chart: Can Marquez Valdes-Scantling & others step up after Allen Lazard’s injury? Excerpt: Quote Packers Depth Chart: Which tight end will rise to the top? The position that could benefit the most from the Allen Lazard injury would be the tight ends. The trio of Robert Tonyan, Mercedes Lewis, and Jace Sternberger played a big role in the team’s Week 3 win over the New Orleans Saints. The three of them combined for nine catches, 104 yards, and two touchdowns. Tonyan was the biggest benefactor with five catches for 50 yards and one of the two touchdowns. Tonyan has quickly emerged as the top TE in this passing game and has scored two weeks in a row. With Lazard missing time and Tonyan becoming a trusted weapon of Rodgers, he is worth an add in fantasy. If you are playing in any sort of TE premium league, your waiver claim should already be done. The other two tight ends, Lewis and Sternberger, will also see an increase in targets, but will likely not compare to Tonyan. Lewis is used as more of a blocking TE, so it would just be Sternberger who could vulture passes. With how much this offense likes to throw the ball, I am not overly concerned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 McHenry East grad Robert Tonyan flourishing in 3rd season with Packers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Hat-trick TD! Tonyan is wide open his third score of the night Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Packers' superstar-less TE room headlined by Robert Tonyan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Rodgers fires fadeaway dart to Tonyan for stellar third-down TD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TakiToki 424 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Not sure whether to sell high in leagues I have him or buy low in leagues I don't. Has the feel of a fluky game with top targets being out, but it does look like Rodgers likes this guy. A couple of those catches were pretty dang nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Quote Robert Tonyan caught all six of his targets for 98 yards and three touchdowns in the Packers' Week 4 win over the Falcons. The third-year former small-school college wideout entered 2020 with a career 14-177-2 line, but Tonyan has completely taken over No. 1 tight end duties in Green Bay and had his coming out party in this one. Tonyan worked out with George Kittle in the offseason and has taken advantage of his opportunity in an offense starved for pass-catching playmakers. Tonyan has scored five touchdowns over his last three contests while playing over 60% of the snaps every week. Tonyan caught 19- and 8-yard touchdowns in the second quarter Monday before scoring again from 21 yards out in the second half. Tonyan has thrown himself right into the TE1 mix with his performance through four weeks. He gets the Bucs on the road in Week 6 after the Packers' bye. Oct 5, 2020, 11:57 PM ET 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,286 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 🚀🚀🚀 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SproutDaddy 412 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Mane.....I just picked him up since Cook was out. Was going against Rodgers. Cook hopefully will be my bye week fill in now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sarlakticacid 625 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Touchdown Tonyan couldn’t win my game today... but i thank him for his efforts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Man With No Name 1,092 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Started him the past 3 weeks and don't see any reason to stop. I think he can even produce during his bye week 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truebluey 485 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 3:25 PM, Hot Sauce Guy said: He's also a dude who was a UDFA in 2017, who is expected to be used in a rotation. So being the "starting receiving TE" is a bit of a misnomer. It's hard to get excited about a Packers TE since their TEs have had 5 TDs over a 2 year span. Everyone looking for the next Finley or Franks seems to be disappointed every year. Graham had 38/447/3 & 55/636/2 on 89 & 60 targets, respectively. If that's the ceiling, I'm not seeing a whole lot to get excited about here. Well, now he has 5 in 3 games. Wondering whether to burn my top waiver wire spot on him this week? Already have Hockenson, Hurst and Gesicki, but I could drop one of them and he'd perhaps be a nice trade piece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PennStater77 299 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, The Man With No Name said: Started him the past 3 weeks and don't see any reason to stop. I think he can even produce during his bye week Bye, then Adams comes back.. I think his production declines going forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gally 4,841 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Truebluey said: Well, now he has 5 in 3 games. Wondering whether to burn my top waiver wire spot on him this week? Already have Hockenson, Hurst and Gesicki, but I could drop one of them and he'd perhaps be a nice trade piece. Acquiring players for the purpose of trading them never seems to turn out as good as expected. I would put him on the level of those other three so you would just be banging your head against a wall each week trying to figure out who to play. I don't think I would burn the top waiver spot on the guy in your situation but I wouldn't leave him on the waiver wire if I could get him without losing that priority (or paying big FAAB). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truebluey 485 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gally said: Acquiring players for the purpose of trading them never seems to turn out as good as expected. I would put him on the level of those other three so you would just be banging your head against a wall each week trying to figure out who to play. I don't think I would burn the top waiver spot on the guy in your situation but I wouldn't leave him on the waiver wire if I could get him without losing that priority (or paying big FAAB). You are so right in my own personal experience. I have hardly ever had that work for me. And yet, every season, some of my teammates pull it off and make out like bandits. Luck of the draw I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gruecd 7,244 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, PennStater77 said: Bye, then Adams comes back.. I think his production declines going forward. I think he'll still be solid in the red zone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farfromforgotten 127 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, PennStater77 said: Bye, then Adams comes back.. I think his production declines going forward. Well, it's going to be hard to keep this pace for sure but I keep seeing people say this. He's earned some trust with Rodgers by this point I'd think. He won't need to pepper Adams with 15+ targets a game any more. Lazard will still be gone for a good while yet. I'd feel pretty confident in starting Tonyan if he was on my roster. Not many TE's exactly blowing up this year. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamesinaz 47 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Man, I'm sitting on Jonnu Smith and Hurst already but thinking of dropping one for this guy. Am I crazy or what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gruecd 7,244 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jamesinaz said: Man, I'm sitting on Jonnu Smith and Hurst already but thinking of dropping one for this guy. Am I crazy or what? I'm biased as a Packers fan, but I wouldn't hesitate to drop either of those guys for Tonyan. Hurst for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,271 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Packers TE Robert Tonyan introduces himself to NFL with 3-touchdown outburst Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 9,033 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Truebluey said: Well, now he has 5 in 3 games. Wondering whether to burn my top waiver wire spot on him this week? Already have Hockenson, Hurst and Gesicki, but I could drop one of them and he'd perhaps be a nice trade piece. Things change since September 2nd. I added him in dynasty after week 2. going back a month and responding to a post as though it was current is a little disingenuous, no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby1974 157 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Can't really beat myself up over not starting him over Kelce, but DANG, between leaving him and Chark on the bench, I would have come out ahead. He looks to have Rodger's complete trust. I'm sure things change when Adams comes back, but this guy is a TE1 for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drunkb 28 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I am hoping for a fun ride in dynasty. I grabbed him a couple weeks ago. I have Kittle for a few more years, but I won't hate seeing him feast on my bench or W/T slot if need be. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 9,033 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, drunkb said: I am hoping for a fun ride in dynasty. I grabbed him a couple weeks ago. I have Kittle for a few more years, but I won't hate seeing him feast on my bench or W/T slot if need be. 30.4 for me. luckily I won by 40-+ without him, so it didn’t really matter other than coach rating. still painful psychologically. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drunkb 28 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said: 30.4 for me. luckily I won by 40-+ without him, so it didn’t really matter other than coach rating. still painful psychologically. Still better with you than against you. I started Preston Williams over him, but I won, so I won't sweat it too hard. Nobody could have predicted that performance. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJackson10 3,057 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 13 hours ago, TakiToki said: Not sure whether to sell high in leagues I have him or buy low in leagues I don't. Has the feel of a fluky game with top targets being out, but it does look like Rodgers likes this guy. A couple of those catches were pretty dang nice. I'm desperate given Ertz isn't giving me much and I already have Rodgers (Plus Big Ben when needed) at QB. Rodgers seems to really like him and even if Adams comes back I think Tonyan at this point has earned not just the starting job but Rodger's trust. When you get Rodgers to trust you thats big. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJackson10 3,057 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Gally said: Acquiring players for the purpose of trading them never seems to turn out as good as expected. I would put him on the level of those other three so you would just be banging your head against a wall each week trying to figure out who to play. I don't think I would burn the top waiver spot on the guy in your situation but I wouldn't leave him on the waiver wire if I could get him without losing that priority (or paying big FAAB). It only seems to work if you got a top Waiver spot and there's a team desperate up that is no where close to the spot. I forget who was all involved in the trade but I remember having the top waiver spot a week with 3 top big name RBs going down. I didn't desperately need an RB but I also didn't want to risk my top waiver spot grabbing a kicker with mine on the bye. The other manager came to me knowing I had first waiver claim. We came up with a trade which made sense for both of us. I think I had like 4 RBs and only 3 WRs and my flex wasn't great. I had Gronk at TE with Rodgers and Jordy Nelson. I got another solid WR as my flex and a pick the next year. The trade ended up helping me win the league as that WR became my flex and I won the league. For the life of me I can't remember who was all involved in the trade and that league folded awhile back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gally 4,841 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, DJackson10 said: It only seems to work if you got a top Waiver spot and there's a team desperate up that is no where close to the spot. I forget who was all involved in the trade but I remember having the top waiver spot a week with 3 top big name RBs going down. I didn't desperately need an RB but I also didn't want to risk my top waiver spot grabbing a kicker with mine on the bye. The other manager came to me knowing I had first waiver claim. We came up with a trade which made sense for both of us. I think I had like 4 RBs and only 3 WRs and my flex wasn't great. I had Gronk at TE with Rodgers and Jordy Nelson. I got another solid WR as my flex and a pick the next year. The trade ended up helping me win the league as that WR became my flex and I won the league. For the life of me I can't remember who was all involved in the trade and that league folded awhile back. This is a different scenario than grabbing a guy with the intent to trade him. You already had the trade finalized before you acquired the guy or you traded the priority outright. Either way this is different than grabbing a guy that you don't really want or need because you think you can trade them for something great later on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJackson10 3,057 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gally said: This is a different scenario than grabbing a guy with the intent to trade him. You already had the trade finalized before you acquired the guy or you traded the priority outright. Either way this is different than grabbing a guy that you don't really want or need because you think you can trade them for something great later on. Agree my plan was initially to pick up the guy and trade him before the that owner came to me. I wasn't gonna waste my first priority claim on a bye week kicker. The WR's and RBs at the time for a flex were nothing special other then the RB I picked and then traded. Overall I ended up upgrading my flex anyway. He was in desperate need of the RB because his weren't great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moleculo 9,232 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 all right, so I picked up this dude purely as a contingency plan if KC/NE didn't play yesterday - I didn't want a goose egg from Kelce and so my only option was a TE from GB or ATL so I snagged him Sunday AM. He is now the #2 TE in my league. What do I do now? I'm not going to bench Kelce (leagues #1TE) for him. obvious answer is to flip him, but what kind of value do y'all think he has? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King of the Jungle 1,390 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, moleculo said: all right, so I picked up this dude purely as a contingency plan if KC/NE didn't play yesterday - I didn't want a goose egg from Kelce and so my only option was a TE from GB or ATL so I snagged him Sunday AM. He is now the #2 TE in my league. What do I do now? I'm not going to bench Kelce (leagues #1TE) for him. obvious answer is to flip him, but what kind of value do y'all think he has? I think the more obvious answer is that COVID and injuries are king this year. Enjoy your depth. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gally 4,841 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, moleculo said: all right, so I picked up this dude purely as a contingency plan if KC/NE didn't play yesterday - I didn't want a goose egg from Kelce and so my only option was a TE from GB or ATL so I snagged him Sunday AM. He is now the #2 TE in my league. What do I do now? I'm not going to bench Kelce (leagues #1TE) for him. obvious answer is to flip him, but what kind of value do y'all think he has? If you are set on flipping him because you need the roster space or ???? then put out a league wide notice that he is available to the highest bidder. I don't think many will believe he is for real yet (and think he will disappear when Adams comes back) so the offerings are going to be modest. He probably has more value to you to keep at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moleculo 9,232 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gally said: If you are set on flipping him because you need the roster space or ???? then put out a league wide notice that he is available to the highest bidder. I don't think many will believe he is for real yet (and think he will disappear when Adams comes back) so the offerings are going to be modest. He probably has more value to you to keep at this point. my WR's suck and I currently don't have a back-up QB rostered behind Brees, who has a bye week coming up. Our benches are relatively shallow - I typically don't carry a back-up TE. I'm thinking of packaging him with maybe Tod Gurley for a top 10-20 WR. Edited October 6, 2020 by moleculo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truebluey 485 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said: Things change since September 2nd. I added him in dynasty after week 2. going back a month and responding to a post as though it was current is a little disingenuous, no? Sorry, I wasn't trying to show you up, was trying to illustrate exactly what you said. How much things can change in a few weeks! Seems like I need to learn that lesson every year! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 9,033 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Truebluey said: Sorry, I wasn't trying to show you up, was trying to illustrate exactly what you said. How much things can change in a few weeks! Seems like I need to learn that lesson every year! Oh! Got ya - you're exactly right. Sorry, that coulda been read either way - thanks for the clarification. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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