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Which website with the word freedom in it and/or a bald eagle as its logo did you get this from?A saw a meme that said:
"A black man just called a white man who graduated from Northwestern and got an MBA at MIT uneducated. Can you imagine if that same white man had called the black man who only graduated from high school the same thing?"
Lebron is a moron? Dude is not only one of the best basketball players of all time--he's also one the best entrepreneurs of all time. I get that people might not agree with him on his stance here-but calling him a "moron" is nothing more than a hollow hot take. I don't agree with him in regards to this issue--but I also think that Morey's actions were completely idiotic and reckless. The MIT graduate genius that specializes in analytics decides to be a keyboard warrior and tweet something without considering the possible ramifications of that tweet? The second his boss apologizes for the tweet--instead of standing up for hs moral stance--he backs down immediately? That tweet is compromising the livelihood of many peoples lives. The NBA has employees and affiliates in China. Is Morey going to make things right for them if it effects their livelihoods? While I don't agree with Lebron much on this issue--I absolutely agree with him when he says that Morey did little to no due diligence before he put that tweet out and there are people who are and will be damaged by it.LeBron is pretty much showing the world he's a moron. I love how he's trying to convince everyone they are wrong.
Yes. He's a moron. Being a great basketball player doesn't make you smart.
Exactly, that is the double standard that is demonstrated every day in this country now.A saw a meme that said:
"A black man just called a white man who graduated from Northwestern and got an MBA at MIT uneducated. Can you imagine if that same white man had called the black man who only graduated from high school the same thing?"
And I can't let this go. Can you please tell me what makes him one of the best entrepreneurs of all time? Can you site some examples of his greatness?
Yes I would l Iike to hear this as well. Dribbling a ball doesn't make you an entrepreneur & getting endorsements from it doesn't either.
I think it was both about money and keeping people safe. He definitely has a point about that. ESPN had a huge story yesterday from some reporter on the scene that detailed how nervous both teams were with the situation. Both teams met together to come up with game plans on how to deal with the situation over there.
Morey used his platform to stick up for human rights until he got into hot water with his boss--and then backed down like a mouse. Morey is spineless and wishes he could effect the planet 1/100th the way Lebron has changed the world. Lebron has changed the lives of more people for the better than Morey ever has or ever will. I agree that Morey's sentiments in the tweet were great--but he did no action to back it up otherwise. Now other people are stuck trying to clean up a mess that he started while he's sitting in a corner doing nothing. If you want to respect that--that's fine--I don't. I respect action--I don't respect words.
It's not my job to educate you--you obviously have plenty of time based on the dozens of threads you seem to start here. Go and do a little bit of research and you will find that Lebron does a lot more than play basketball. See how many boys and girls clubs he has supported. See how many schools he has supported.
We know it's about the money. The point is LeBron has been talking about taking a stand and sticking up for those that can't speak for themselves. Use his platform. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. LeBron's life ended Monday night.
So you're going to use, as your number 1 example of how great of a businessman he is, a school that doesn't make a profit? Wow. Ok.
No, more to the point of how he’s not a moron. You can use the powerful google engine to find the rest for yourself, he doesn’t need me defending him.
Blaze pizza, owns his own production company, owns uninterrupted media company, a partial owner in Ladder--a health and wellness company. Yeah--its too bad that all he can do is dribble a ball.
I'm sure LeBron has started several businesses. I doubt he really did much of the development himself, nor does he actually run them on a regular basis.
So when people disagree with you--you resort to dooshiness? Funny that you can't seem to have a civil conversation with somebody that disagrees with you. Forbes has ranked him as the 39th richest entrepreneur under the age of 40. The majority of his wealth is not coming from his NBA salary. He's the partial owner of a soccer team, owns several businesses--I think it's you that is misinfomred about the definition of entrepreneur. Enjoy your day.
The lack or availability of money does not eliminate people from being entrepreneurs. Entrepreneurs do not have to start out being poor. Good entrepreneurship is about developing and growing wealth. He has done a masterful job doing that. That's not even debatable.
Whoa. How was I being dooshy? You said he supported boys and girls clubs as an example of him being an entrepreneur. That's not what that means.
"He's the greatest entrepreneur ever!"
Exactly. If you get a billion dollars from endorsements and playing basketball, taking that money and buying other businesses doesn't make you a great entrepreneur.
Read up several posts--I named several businesses that he owned, started, invested in before you made your comment.
There is a post on this very page that answers your question. If you’re going to just sit here and be completely disingenuous then I’ll tap out. Not worth the time.
Actually, it is very debatable and without access to his financial records is impossible to know.
There you are being rude and dooshy again. If you are unable to actaully invite dialoge from different points of view in threads that you start--perhaps you should stop starting them? Forbes has him being the 39th richest entrepreneur under the age of 40. Most of his money does not come from his NBA salary (dribbling a ball). Let me guess--you are smarter than Forbes magazine now when it comes to ranking entrepreneurship?
Not a great entrepreneur. Maybe the greatest.
I wasn't being rude to you. I was being rude to Premier, who is a doosh. I was actually conversing with you, GB.
Elon musk made tons of money from paypal before he was fired. He used that money to start and invest in companies like Space x, tesla and solar city. So let me guess--he's not a real entrepreneur because he was rich before he started those ventures?
Also, he's rich because of basketball AND endorsements. He's probably making about 5% of his money from his businesses. Again, look what you wrote. He's the 39th richest entrepreneur under the age of 40. It's not saying he's rich because of being an entrepreneur. He just happens to be rich. From basketball and endorsements.
He co-founded the company that eventually got sold and made him his money. You do understand that's completely different, right, GB?
Not true at all. He currently has a net worth of somewhere around $450 million. He made $35 million off of blaze alone. Made around $30 million off of his investement in beats head phones. His share in hs soccer team has netted him approximately $25 million in profit. He also has money coming in from his production, marketing and acting ventures. His deal with Nike will extend far past his NBA career so while his endorsement there has paid him quite a bit--it wasn't paid up front--it's an on going thing.
Entrepreneurship involves starting something, investing in it (whether it is time or money) and growing it into something bigger. Whether that is a child that goes around selling lemondade and turning it into an empire--or a millionaire starting and investing in companies--the definition does not change. You can disagree with Lebron on his China stance without trying to trash his other accomplishments. I don't understand why that is an impossibility to you.
But again, I say investing is not being an entrepreneur. Warren Buffet has always said that people with money should be able to invest in things to always be able to make more money. Money begets more money. LeBron seems to be a smart investor. Or probably has good money people. But that doesn't make him the greatest entrepreneur of all time.
I’m actually Capella. Like I said weeks ago, I miss the funny version of you. I wish you didn’t come back to the board; the memory of you as a decent dude was better than this.
I think we just need to agree to disagree. I never said he was the greatest--I said he is considered to be "one of the greatest". How many people do you think are on the planet? Even if he was the 4000th greatest entrepreneur of all time--that would probably put him in the top 0.01 percent. That's pretty effing great. People aren't completely perfect and people don't completely suck. He's done a lot more in the world than just play basketball no matter what narrative you want to put on things. If it makes you feel better to create your own facts and definitions---that's fine by me. We've probably derailed this thread enough at this point.
James is not a moron but We call Trump voters uneducated and James is in that group as he never went to college and never earned a college degree.
Yes, I think this argument kind of got caught up in semantics of the words. It happens a lot on this board. I remember Shick! going off on me because I said I "hated" Tiger Woods. And he was offended that I could hate someone I didn't even know. When I say James is a moron, I'm not saying it meaning the guy is mentally ###### walking around with an IQ under 50. I'm saying that in this moment, where he's saying Moray could have caused harm with his tweet, he is acting like a moron.
I have no problem with people disagreeing with James on social media for having a different point of view on the China situation than him. I clearly stated above that I don't agree with his whole stance either--and that my beliefs are more aligned with Morey's tweet. I do wish that Morey stood behind his tweet and didnt back down. I also said that I did agree that the tweet did and will hurt lots of people that Morey did not consider when putting it out there. There are lots of NBA employees that live and work in China. There are former NBA players that are also there. There will be lots of unintended victims because of that tweet--that's just a fact. My only point of discussion here is the notion that Lebron is somehow a complete moron who is only good at dribbling a basketball.
He would have lost his job. And never gotten another one. That's the difference between him saying it and James saying it.
