Allen Lazard, The Lizard King ***Official Thread***

[flapgreen 6,115]

57 minutes ago, Crazysight said:

I’m thin at receiver right now with Adams out. I have him in my lineup this week ahead of AJ Brown and Allen Robinson (vs. Saints/Lattimore).

Ahead of Arob? Slow your roll.  I'm a firm believer in Lazard being a first ballot guy one day, but I'm not sure I'd start him over Arob. 

[Ilov80s 32,286]

1 hour ago, flapgreen said:

Ahead of Arob? Slow your roll.  I'm a firm believer in Lazard being a first ballot guy one day, but I'm not sure I'd start him over Arob. 

Agreed. It’s very bold to go Lazard over ARob. 

[gruecd 7,696]

2 hours ago, flapgreen said:

Ahead of Arob? Slow your roll.  I'm a firm believer in Lazard being a first ballot guy one day, but I'm not sure I'd start him over Arob. 

Lattimore has been shutting everyone down. Lazard might be Aaron's #1 target this week.

[Insein 11,148]

He's in. I got 6 players on bye this week. Plus Thompson just got hurt. Lazard for the win.

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

1 minute ago, Insein said:

He's in. I got 6 players on bye this week. Plus Thompson just got hurt. Lazard for the win.

Wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him lead the team in targets. 

Considering a 4th quarter line of 4/65/1, it’s tempting to project that over a full game, but he probably won’t go 16/280/4. 

Could he go 9/14 for 120+ & 1 TD? Absolutely. 

love him for the volume alone. Was just reading how when he was with JAX he practiced against Ramsey & developed his game.

[Crazysight 21]

10 hours ago, gruecd said:

Lattimore has been shutting everyone down. Lazard might be Aaron's #1 target this week.

Exactly.  Look at what he’s done to the 3 top wideouts that he’s faced in the last 3 weeks.  Chark, Mike Evans, and Amari Cooper were all brutalized.  I love Arob just about any other time, but not this week.

My opponent also has Rodgers at QB, so it’s a bit of a hedge for me as well in case he has a big game.

Edited October 19, 2019 by Crazysight

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

 

5 minutes ago, Crazysight said:

My opponent also has Rodgers at QB, so it’s a bit of a hedge for me as well in case he has a big game.

I mean, sort of. 

cancellation is kind of a myth tho. The only time it really works is if they’re the last two players in the night game & neither gets hurt. and it’s PPR & all your opponents TDs go to your dude. 

for the 1st time in decades this happened to me this year where my opponent had Wilson & I had Lockett & Carson. 

but really you just need your WRX to outscore his WRX, and your QB to outscore his QB.

otherwise it’s kind of irrelevant that he has ARod & you have Lizard King.

It probably hurts you more than hedges that he has ARod.

[Ilov80s 32,286]

17 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

 

I mean, sort of. 

cancellation is kind of a myth tho. The only time it really works is if they’re the last two players in the night game & neither gets hurt. and it’s PPR & all your opponents TDs go to your dude. 

for the 1st time in decades this happened to me this year where my opponent had Wilson & I had Lockett & Carson. 

but really you just need your WRX to outscore his WRX, and your QB to outscore his QB.

otherwise it’s kind of irrelevant that he has ARod & you have Lizard King.

It probably hurts you more than hedges that he has ARod.

Right but if I play say Sanu over McLaurin, it might work out if my opponent has Ryan. Maybe McLaurin scores 16 and Sanu only gets 10, but those 10 will basically be 20 because of the points they cancelled out from Ryan.

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

8 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Right but if I play say Sanu over McLaurin, it might work out if my opponent has Ryan. Maybe McLaurin scores 16 and Sanu only gets 10, but those 10 will basically be 20 because of the points they cancelled out from Ryan.

Wut

not sure if you’re kidding or not. Please tell me you’re kidding. 

Edited October 19, 2019 by Hot Sauce Guy

[sho nuff 17,561]

8 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Right but if I play say Sanu over McLaurin, it might work out if my opponent has Ryan. Maybe McLaurin scores 16 and Sanu only gets 10, but those 10 will basically be 20 because of the points they cancelled out from Ryan.

But you get whatever your guy gets...if you had McLaurin...the 16 would be better off.

He is going to get whatever Ryan gets...you lost 6 points in that scenario.

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

1 minute ago, sho nuff said:

But you get whatever your guy gets...if you had McLaurin...the 16 would be better off.

He is going to get whatever Ryan gets...you lost 6 points in that scenario.

Yes, 16 > 10. that’s just math. correct 

....oh lord not this again.  

[Ilov80s 32,286]

25 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Yes, 16 > 10. that’s just math. correct 

....oh lord not this again.  

Keep telling yourself that. But when Ryan throws a TD to Sanu you will wish you had those 6 fewer points. 

[Mongidig 350]

1 hour ago, Crazysight said:

Exactly.  Look at what he’s done to the 3 top wideouts that he’s faced in the last 3 weeks.  Chark, Mike Evans, and Amari Cooper were all brutalized.  I love Arob just about any other time, but not this week.

My opponent also has Rodgers at QB, so it’s a bit of a hedge for me as well in case he has a big game.

I think playing Lazard over Arob is perfectly reasonable. The Chicago game is probably gonna be super low low scoring and Trubisky could be rusty in addition to the Lattimore fact. Throw out the rankings this time of year. This is a week to week game and this week Lazard should be the better play. 

[efactor 792]

45 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Right but if I play say Sanu over McLaurin, it might work out if my opponent has Ryan. Maybe McLaurin scores 16 and Sanu only gets 10, but those 10 will basically be 20 because of the points they cancelled out from Ryan.

🤨

 

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

16 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Keep telling yourself that. But when Ryan throws a TD to Sanu you will wish you had those 6 fewer points. 

I love you, man.  

[efactor 792]

With Juju and Godwin on bye, I’m firing up Lazard this week.  Hope MVS can play at least.  I would prefer Lazard not be the #1 guy drawing the most attention.  

 

[Biabreakable 5,303]

While it is well known that the Lizard King can do anything some of you guys are braver (desperate) than me.

[Crazysight 21]

2 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

 

I mean, sort of. 

cancellation is kind of a myth tho. The only time it really works is if they’re the last two players in the night game & neither gets hurt. and it’s PPR & all your opponents TDs go to your dude. 

for the 1st time in decades this happened to me this year where my opponent had Wilson & I had Lockett & Carson. 

but really you just need your WRX to outscore his WRX, and your QB to outscore his QB.

otherwise it’s kind of irrelevant that he has ARod & you have Lizard King.

It probably hurts you more than hedges that he has ARod.

It’s a hedge in the sense that Arod looks to be without at least two of his top receivers, and LK is the one among the bunch he has who does stand out against a defense that isnt all that great this week.  I dont know exactly what I have with LK at this point, but everything he did on Monday night was just in the 4th quarter alone.  If he goes for over a hundred yards and 3 TDs this week I will be double kicking myself if he’s on my bench with Arod playing against me.

Edited October 19, 2019 by Crazysight

[JohnnyU 4,612]

He might be a decent desperate play this week.

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

7 minutes ago, Crazysight said:

It’s a hedge in the sense that Arod looks to be without at least two of his top receivers, and LK is the one among the bunch he has who does stand out against a defense that isnt all that great this week.  I dont know exactly what I have with LK at this point, but everything he did on Monday night was just in the 4th quarter alone.  If he goes for over a hundred yards and 3 TDs this week I will be double kicking myself if he’s on my bench with Arod playing against me.

I don’t fault you for starting him,  but just know it’s mutually exclusive to your opponent starting ARod. 👍🏼

I may start him over Amari Cooper as I think LK will be better than Austin, who I’d be forced to start if AC is a late scratch. 

[Chaka 6,241]

13 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

 

Could he go 9/14 for 120+ & 1 TD? Absolutely. 

.

Could he go 2/6 for 22 & 0 TD?

Absolutely.

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

7 minutes ago, Chaka said:

Could he go 2/6 for 22 & 0 TD?

Absolutely.

Could he get drunk, get arrested for soliciting a dwarf prostitute & miss the game entirely?  
 

Absolutely. 
 

there are many things in the realm of possibilities. And that’s why he is the Lizard King. His legend grows by the minute. 

that said, 2/6/22 seems unlikely considering 4 receptions on 5 targets in like 13 mins of game time. 

Edited October 19, 2019 by Hot Sauce Guy

[JohnnyU 4,612]

21 minutes ago, Chaka said:

Could he go 2/6 for 22 & 0 TD?

Absolutely.

I can think of worse desperate plays.

[dickey moe 3,965]

Debating Lazard, Robby Anderson, or Jordan Howard at flex.

[tricky92 496]

27 minutes ago, dickey moe said:

Debating Lazard, Robby Anderson, or Jordan Howard at flex.

I'm sitting Anderson this week, with the idea of putting him in to my starting line-up next week and leaving him there. This week's match-up is horrible.

[whole-show 291]

Allison upgraded to questionable today. Not good news for us Lizard king owners 

[Ministry of Pain 5,956]

The 3:30 Advisory on Saturday has just been released, we have a few updates...

-Geronimo upgraded to Questionable

-MVS likely playing

-Adams OUT

The facts remain that although MVS and Geronimo might be playing, neither has really nailed it down as a go to guy, both nursing some injuries which could impede them like wind sheering on an Atlantic Storm. And since Lazard has looked great and is a favorite of Rodgers, we are still going to anticipate a potential Cat-1 on Sunday with winds still packing 80 MPH and let's start getting some potential rainfall and stats from NOAA...

7 targets, 5 catches, 60 yds and a TD, Top36 WR still making him a start amongst most 12 teams leagues, start-3 WRs. 

Batten down the hatches and let's see how the Cone of Uncertainty looks tomorrow morning. 

[Arodin 3,083]

1 hour ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Could he get drunk, get arrested for soliciting a dwarf prostitute & miss the game entirely?  
 

Absolutely. 
 

there are many things in the realm of possibilities. And that’s why he is the Lizard King. His legend grows by the minute. 

that said, 2/6/22 seems unlikely considering 4 receptions on 5 targets in like 13 mins of game time. 

Only the Lizard King could score 22 touchdowns on only 2 receptions!

_{And just 6 yards?  Surely he has a hand in getting the team into scoring position too...}

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

1 minute ago, Arodin said:

Only the Lizard King could score 22 touchdowns on only 2 receptions!

_{And just 6 yards?  Surely he has a hand in getting the team into scoring position too...}

   

 

2 catches on 6 targets for 22 yards, but sure imma go with your version. 

[One 302]

I just reached an agreement with my fantasy leaguemates for the rights to Lazard over the next 8 years.  

It’s not even a dynasty league.  

Edited October 19, 2019 by One

[Loipz 231]

3 minutes ago, One said:

I just reached an agreement with my fantasy leaguemates for the rights to Lazard over the next 8 years.  

It’s not even a dynasty league.  

Bunch of bums you play with. Hope they enjoy losing the next 8 years in a row

[Deamon 6,085]

11 minutes ago, One said:

I just reached an agreement with my fantasy leaguemares for the rights to Lazard over the next 8 years.  

It’s not even a dynasty league.  

I dont understand.

[Ilov80s 32,286]

I am likely not starting him now.  I will go Crowder over him as I like my match-up this week and think a steady 6/60 from Crowder will be all I need. However, I am not dropping him either and am still excited about seeing his role Sunday.

[Chaka 6,241]

2 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Could he get drunk, get arrested for soliciting a dwarf prostitute & miss the game entirely?  
 

Absolutely. 
 

there are many things in the realm of possibilities. And that’s why he is the Lizard King. His legend grows by the minute. 

that said, 2/6/22 seems unlikely considering 4 receptions on 5 targets in like 13 mins of game time. 

I like his upside this week too but basing anything on 13 minutes of game time is just as foolish as trying to cancel your opponent by starting Lazard because your opponent has Rodgers.

Lazard played in 6 games prior to those 13 minutes totalling 1 catch for 7 yards. He couldn't get in front of Allison, Scantling or Jake Kumerow. Two UDFAs and a 5th round pick.

Multiple injuries in front of him are the only thing he has going for him and that may be enough for this week. 

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

9 minutes ago, Chaka said:

I like his upside this week too but basing anything on 13 minutes of game time is just as foolish as trying to cancel your opponent by starting Lazard because your opponent has Rodgers.

Lazard played in 6 games prior to those 13 minutes totalling 1 catch for 7 yards. He couldn't get in front of Allison, Scantling or Jake Kumerow. Two UDFAs and a 5th round pick.

Multiple injuries in front of him are the only thing he has going for him and that may be enough for this week. 

I ain’t arguing otherwise. He’s a nice dart throw for a BYE week WR3 or flex though. 
 

I'm probably back on the “start Cooper & if he’s a late scratch go with Austin” wagon, but it’s tempting to roll with the lizard king. Better bragging rights if he blows up & all that.  

[barackdhouse 2,699]

I don't see anything saying MVS was upgraded. Why do people think he will play? He missed practice Friday. Isn't it Allison, Lazard and some other scrub at WR3?

[wormburner 333]

6 hours ago, Ministry of Pain said:

Batten down the hatches and let's see how the Cone of Uncertainty looks tomorrow morning. 

We’ll be Waiting For The Sun. 

[Ministry of Pain 5,956]

16 hours ago, barackdhouse said:

I don't see anything saying MVS was upgraded. Why do people think he will play? He missed practice Friday. Isn't it Allison, Lazard and some other scrub at WR3?

Packer WR not as decimated as 1st thought

If they are both starting, I think i will be forced to play Tate and maybe let him sit the bench and see what unfolds.

[kittenmittens 1,390]

7 minutes ago, Ministry of Pain said:

Packer WR not as decimated as 1st thought

If they are both starting, I think i will be forced to play Tate and maybe let him sit the bench and see what unfolds.

The Packers WRs have looked decimated even when they are on the field.  Rodgers can't be too thrilled with what MVS and especially Allison have done with their targets so far. 

 

[Football Jones 1,461]

I remember being surprised he didn't get drafted. The biggest issue coming out was speed, but Lazard put up a 4.55 at the Combine, which one scout said was the biggest surprise of the event. He also had a 38" vertical.

The only thing I could really find was he had a terrible practice at the Senior Bowl & dropped a bunch of passes, but guys with his size, athletic ability, & production (in a Power-5 conference) don't go undrafted.

Did Lizard kill somebody? If not, he must be a real a$$hole, LOL.

Edited October 20, 2019 by Football Jones

[sho nuff 17,561]

36 minutes ago, Football Jones said:

I remember being surprised he didn't get drafted. The biggest issue coming out was speed, but Lazard put up a 4.55 at the Combine, which one scout said was the biggest surprise of the event. He also had  38" vertical.

The only thing I could really find was he had a terrible practice at the Senior Bowl & dropped a bunch of passes, but guys with his size, athletic ability, & production (in a Power-5 conference) don't go undrafted.

Did Lizard kill somebody? If not, he must be a real a$$hole, LOL.

He did more last week than J'mon Moore did in his time in GB.

[Loipz 231]

MVS and Geronimo both active 

[sho nuff 17,561]

3 minutes ago, Loipz said:

MVS and Geronimo both active 

Yup

[candian fantasy guy 155]

That really takes the air out of bubble, doesn't it? I might now roll with Duke Williams instead.

[rockaction 27,871]

19 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

I am likely not starting him now.  I will go Crowder over him as I like my match-up this week and think a steady 6/60 from Crowder will be all I need. However, I am not dropping him either and am still excited about seeing his role Sunday.

Believe or not, this is my logic some days.

[Ilov80s 32,286]

3 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Believe or not, this is my logic some days.

That was one my few serious posts in this thread

[rockaction 27,871]

1 minute ago, Ilov80s said:

That was one my few serious posts in this thread

I thought so, but still can't believe I have to use that logic.

Worse still, I can't believe I drafted and still (once again) roster and start Crowder in one leeg (you might know which).

OOooooooooooooooooof.

Edited October 20, 2019 by rockaction

[Ilov80s 32,286]

1 minute ago, rockaction said:

I thought so, but still can't believe I have to use that logic.

Worse still, I can't believe I drafted and still (once again) roster and start Crowder in one leeg (you might know which).

OOooooooooooooooooof.

I just added him in my main league to get through these bye weeks. I would have preferred to play Lazard but it’s too risky that he gives me a 0.

[Hot Sauce Guy 9,432]

Everyone active but Adams. Lower expectations for the Lizard King, though he’s still not a bad dart throw at flex PPR. 

[shadrap 1,993]

2 minutes ago, rockaction said:

I thought so, but still can't believe I have to use that logic.

Worse still, I can't believe I drafted and still (once again) roster and start Crowder in one leeg (you might know which).

OOooooooooooooooooof.

and our fantasy season started out with such promise.