I thought I was. Sorry about that.
What I was trying to say is that several of us have opposing views as to what is causing this problem- we even have opposing views as to who the “trolls” are (as witness
@Ramblin Wreck‘s reaction.) We’re never going to convince each other about this stuff, and yet we need to resolve it because it’s threatening to end this forum.
In looking back through these several pages since this thread started, I’m pretty sure I’m the only one here who has stated that some of the responsibility is mine, and I pledged to do better. I’m not pointing that out in order to toot my own horn but to emphasize that unless some of the rest of you are also willing to take responsibility for their actions, rather than blaming everybody else for what’s wrong here, we’re all screwed.
So let me go further: for the rest of my time in this forum, I pledge never again to call somebody a troll. I pledge never again to insult anyone personally, or attack anyone personally, or be intentionally rude to anyone here. I pledge never again to group people together such as “all Trump supporters think that” etc. I pledge never again to call anyone out. I will devote 100% of my posts here to the subject.
If I break any of these promises then the mods can ban me permanently. There won’t be any aliases; I won’t come back.
These pledges are fixed for me no matter what anyone else does; you guys can hold me to them. But is there anyone else here willing to make them?