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1. No idea what you mean by “the elite”. If you mean the establishment, then I certainly hope they continue to “conquer” us, since almost nothing but good things come from that. 

2. There are huge differences between the Democratic leadership and the Republican leadership on domestic issues. Less so on international issues (until Trump anyhow) which is the way it should be. 
They always have different talking points but the bombs always fall on others peoples heads in foreign land no matter who is in office red or blue.

 
I like using team red and team blue because it points to how easily the elite has divided us into these opposing viewpoints. Divide and conquer right? Meanwhile there has been little to no real difference between team red and team blue leadership. I have voted for both teams in the past and have been beyond disappointed by both.
I don't think this is accurate. I'm not team blue. I'm just part of the majority of America that opposes an obviously corrupt, inept president. Team red has become team trump... a far cry from what team red was supposed to be. Team blue has always been a catch all for everyone who isn't far right. There haven't been centrists on team red in a while. Team blue is almost an all-inclusive group of people from centrist to far left, however, they've left out fiscal conservatives. Those few of us remaining have absolutely no party. 

 
Since we are striving to hold ourselves at a higher level than the leader of our country, can we make an effort to stop the incorrect usage of "fake" and its synonyms and instead use more accurate descriptions?

 
I don't think this is accurate. I'm not team blue. I'm just part of the majority of America that opposes an obviously corrupt, inept president. Team red has become team trump... a far cry from what team red was supposed to be. Team blue has always been a catch all for everyone who isn't far right. There haven't been centrists on team red in a while. Team blue is almost an all-inclusive group of people from centrist to far left, however, they've left out fiscal conservatives. Those few of us remaining have absolutely no party. 
I’m pretty close to 101% sure Trump has done some corrupt things before he was President. I mean casinos were notoriously linked to mafia and money laundering types. So I won’t argue with you about his morals.

I don’t think you or I know how many centrists exist on either side. But I think we can agree that the division being fomented in this country is real. We get divided between even men vs women. The elite love to create and maintain division amongst us. 

 
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I’m pretty close to 101% sure Trump has done some corrupt things before he was President. I mean casinos were notoriously linked to mafia and money laundering types. So I won’t argue with you about his morals.

I don’t think you or I know how many centrists exist on either side. But I think we can agree that the division being fomented in this country is real. We get divided between even men vs women. The elite love to create and maintain division amongst us. 
While I agree the basic premise of what you’re saying (there’s a large divide) I don’t believe in any mastermind “elite’s” pulling the levers. You just have to look to this forum to see we do it to ourselves. People pick a side then dig their heals in. Seems to be hardwired in our DNA.  No need to look for some boggy man in the closet.
 

Yes there are bad people with power doing bad things (both sides), always have been. But we need to be the change we need.  

 
While I agree the basic premise of what you’re saying (there’s a large divide) I don’t believe in any mastermind “elite’s” pulling the levers. You just have to look to this forum to see we do it to ourselves. People pick a side then dig their heals in. Seems to be hardwired in our DNA.  No need to look for some boggy man in the closet.
 

Yes there are bad people with power doing bad things (both sides), always have been. But we need to be the change we need.  
Mastermind implies one boss. I’m sure there are many of these G8 -G7 attendees who collude to shape policy in their favor. It is human nature to have corruption in high places. They used to call them kings and queens, dukes and earls. Now it’s just the “elites,” current queens acknowledged of course.

 
I don’t report stuff. I reported it to you in an open forum to see if you felt like it was fair. 
Then don't whine about it :shrug:

Since it was a month ago, i had to go back and read again. :lol:

my opinion?  I don't have a problem with what i said or others said. But circumvent isn't what you think it is. 

 
Then don't whine about it :shrug:

Since it was a month ago, i had to go back and read again. :lol:

my opinion?  I don't have a problem with what i said or others said. But circumvent isn't what you think it is. 
I was merely making a point in the discussion. I won’t be bringing it up again. Point was made. Time to roll out for dinner and see if anybody dumped a useable fantasy player to salvage my season lol.

 
To be fair @wikkidpissah, you're debating your points on a forum that voted in majority that Trump's presidency is worse than 9/11. That's about all you should need to know.
I actually debate as little as possible and seldom post in threads w the word "Trump" in the title, because i know how set the board is and don't care to waste time when most of what it adds is rancor. But i love the FBG forums and my motto is to live, love and leave it better than you found it. Therefore, i try to contribute - information, insight, humor & camaraderie - where i can. No more complicated than that

 
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