Have not had a chance to get to this thread until now. Reading this I am stunned by some of the comments I assume can only be fishing or pot-stirring. Like this one:
What Pouncy did was just as bad a Garrett IMO.
Um, no.
Or this one.
The saddest part is that Myles Garrett, a lst round (1st overall pick) Pro Bowler and 2nd team all defense, messed up his money and career on a borderline 2nd string QB that probably won't be in the league 2-3 seasons from now.
I would actually have given him credit if it was like... Brady or Rodgers. LoL. But MASON GOTDAMN RUDOLPH?!?!?!? He should have threw his helmet into the first round and trashed him during the interview process. I would've said... "Mason who? Dude is a f**king place kicker foh"
Real sad indeed.
As to people who watched and didn't see anything too bad, such as these:
Im the 3rd person in this thread who didn't see it happen live and saw the video this morning and didn't think it was "perma-ban" worthy. Perhaps its a heat of the moment thing? That being said, hitting a guy with a helmet deserves a rest of season suspension. Also, nobody seems to be talking about that player who injured Diontae Johnson. That was a disgusting hit. What a dirty team.
After watching it again this morning from a different angle - I will say it was a little worse than I thought...
Still wouldn't press charges
There were tons of initial angles, and probably to the above, many that came out later that served to show how brutal that was and how worse it could have been. Here was the one that most caught my eye:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/dwlslu/sam_monson_another_angle_of_the_helmet_swing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Caved in his skull??? Wow there is an incredibly overblown idea of how dangerous a helmet is. It's not a battle axe. It's not a sledgehammer. Geeze. Caved in his skull??? He actually DID hit him, and Rudolph is unharmed.
Had the helmet been rotated slightly a different way such that a hard part or an edge landed that way, it likely would have resulted in a much different outcome in terms of injury.
To me, that is assault.
That Rudolph is unharmed was lucky. But yes I think a windmill windup that landed right could have absolutely caused some permanent damage.
quick google search in case anyone was wondering:
NFL helmet: 6 pounds
Bowling ball (adult male): 14-16 pounds
Yeah, a bowling ball comp seemed a little hyerpbolic.
Let's say it was a brick. Does anyone think you couldn't seriously injure someone by windmilling them on the crown of an unprotected head with a brick? Not possible to cause serious lasting damage that way? While likely a much slimmer probability, is there a zero chance probability that with one shot you could potentially kill someone by hitting them in the head with a brick using a full-force swing?
"Why in heaven's name, STC, are you talking about a brick?" you might be asking. Go look up relative weights of a standard red brick and an NFL football helmet.
Point of order- does anybody have a single example of a prosecution of an assault that happens in a professional sporting event where the blow never actually connected? Yes, hockey players have been prosecuted for tomahawking a guy with their stick. Have they ever been prosecuted for swinging their stick and missing? Or even connecting but not injuring the victim? Has a pitcher ever been charged for throwing at a batters head but missing? Or hitting him in the back?
I think its important to step back and understand that the absolute letter of the law has never been applied in professional sports and never will be. Law enforcement doesnt want to be called on to adjudicate this stuff, and the Leagues certainly dont want that either.
Just for clarity, are you looking to compare it to this incident where the blow actually connected? I don't think the connection here is in doubt, and I think Rudolph not being injured is besides the point. I mean, assault is still assault regardless of the degree of the resulting injury.
FWIW there is an incident where a player ripped another player's helmet off and threw it at a player and hit him -- not in the back -- but more in the upper body. It's the action that gave birth to the very rule that outlaws the behavior in the NFL.
Rule 12 Section 2 Player Conduct.
Finally, I do not condone Burfict's long history of dirty, intentional hits that also recklessly endanger player safety. Enough was enough. But given the comparative brutality of what Garrett did, there is no way he should get off for less than 12 games.