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Traded Chuba Hubbard for Henry Ruggs to the Christian McCaffery owner in my SUPERFLEX league. I don't know if he'll ever amount to anything, but if her erupts for a TD Week 1, I might be able to pawn him off onto some sap.

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On 6/26/2021 at 9:23 PM, Shaq90 said:

Traded Chuba Hubbard for Henry Ruggs to the Christian McCaffery owner in my SUPERFLEX league. I don't know if he'll ever amount to anything, but if her erupts for a TD Week 1, I might be able to pawn him off onto some sap.

That seems like a great deal. 

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The Athletic's Vic Tafur believes Raiders WR Henry Ruggs is "the one receiver we can lock in for a lot of targets."

"Gruden hears the criticism of the Ruggs pick, so he is the one receiver we can lock in for a lot of targets," Tafur writes. The first receiver drafted among last year's elite class, Ruggs was primarily used as a decoy under Gruden, receiving two screens on 581 offensive snaps and finishing behind Josh Jacobs in targets (45 to 43). There is some momentum here as Gruden mentioned 22-year-old Ruggs looking "much better" in his second year at offseason workouts. With Nelson Agholor's team-high 79.3 air yards and additional 5.1 targets per game vacated from last year, there is a fruitful role available for Ruggs to step into if Gruden discovers how to use him over free agent pickup John Brown. Any amount of volume near the line of scrimmage (rather than forgetting Ruggs is on the team) would also help.

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I was middle-of-the-road on him going into his rookie year. Didn't hate him, but also passed on him for Aiyuk in some rookie drafts. Looking at it now though, it's clear that he's underrated going into year 2.

He's outside the top 50 dynasty WRs on some lists I've seen. Crazy low for a guy with his draft pedigree and skill set. His rookie year really wasn't terrible. 452 yards on just 43 targets. If they ramp up his targets in future seasons (very likely) and his production scales, he can pretty quickly become a quality FF starter. I also think he LOOKED good last season, not just in terms of stats.

I'm thinking a range of realistic outcomes can easily see him jump into Santonio Holmes/Will Fuller territory in year 2-3, so he's an obvious buy candidate in startup drafts and trades.

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4 hours ago, EBF said:

I was middle-of-the-road on him going into his rookie year. Didn't hate him, but also passed on him for Aiyuk in some rookie drafts. Looking at it now though, it's clear that he's underrated going into year 2.

He's outside the top 50 dynasty WRs on some lists I've seen. Crazy low for a guy with his draft pedigree and skill set. His rookie year really wasn't terrible. 452 yards on just 43 targets. If they ramp up his targets in future seasons (very likely) and his production scales, he can pretty quickly become a quality FF starter. I also think he LOOKED good last season, not just in terms of stats.

I'm thinking a range of realistic outcomes can easily see him jump into Santonio Holmes/Will Fuller territory in year 2-3, so he's an obvious buy candidate in startup drafts and trades.

Good post and feel similar. Threw him in on a trade to get my guy but would look to buy back at the right price. With Waller and Brown there it may present a nice opportunity to buy low if he has a slow start to the year.

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Henry Ruggs said he gained 13 pounds this offseason in an effort to be a more physical player.

Ruggs is hoping it leads to more production in the passing game and as a runner. The 22-year-old was given just nine carries as a rookie. Doubling that number would be nice as a way to get the ball in the playmaker's hands more in year two. Getting tougher will also help in the short passing game; Ruggs has no choice but to be better there because Derek Carr refuses to throw the ball deep. Ruggs is Vegas' No. 1 receiver and is a worthwhile flier in the mid-to-late rounds of fantasy drafts.

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Raiders Mailbag: How have the second-year wideouts fared during Training Camp?

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"Has Ruggs been doing extra work?"

Henry Ruggs III has definitely done a lot of extra work this offseason -- and it shows.

Ruggs has come into Training Camp looking focused and more muscular than he did his rookie year. The receiver trained extensively this offseason and gained 13 pounds. He's putting his added muscle to good use as he's improved as a blocker, which will help in the run game with Josh Jacobs and Kenyan Drake.

Ruggs also looks more naturally confident on the field and more knowledgeable of the playbook, considering this is his first normal NFL offseason. Barring any injuries, Ruggs' speed and athleticism will be heavily depended on in the Raiders offense.

 

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“It was my main focus,” Ruggs said of his weight gain. It’s a man’s game now. I’m not the biggest guy, but I have to get to where I can compete with grown men now, so that was one of my biggest things that I hammered on was getting bigger, eating all the time and just hammering down in the weight room. People are saying I am noticeably bigger, so I guess it’s paying off.”

“Sometimes if I’m blocking I’m just like getting in the way and sometimes I’m moved out of the way and I didn’t like that personally, so I don’t want to be a guy who’s just thrown around and just trying to be in the way,” Ruggs added.

 

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2 hours ago, TheDirtyWord said:

So this WR depth chart looks real green…a lot of opportunity?  Or is Darren Waller going for 168/1798/4?

it's a bit frightening.  to say the least.

ALL 5 of them average 127/2147/11  renfrow is the best of the group at 53/632/3  carr is good for 350+ completions a year.  you might have wallers numbers a bit low. ;) 

the more i think about it, the more i think zay jones may emerge.  :shrug:  

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2 hours ago, TheDirtyWord said:

So this WR depth chart looks real green…a lot of opportunity?  Or is Darren Waller going for 168/1798/4?

 

My guess

Waller delivers expectations assuming health

Edwards outperforms ADP

Ruggs is ??  Don't have a great read on Ruggs, but it's not like he's expensive.

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6 minutes ago, TripItUp said:

 

My guess

Waller delivers expectations assuming health

Edwards outperforms ADP

Ruggs is ??  Don't have a great read on Ruggs, but it's not like he's expensive.

 

Dropped Ruggs for Edwards for what is more or less the last bench seat (12 team SF .5 ppr). Ruggs could be better this year, but I'm not buying it. Pre-season stuff hyping Ruggs all seemed like fluff to me.

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5 hours ago, RenegadeRoy said:

 

Dropped Ruggs for Edwards for what is more or less the last bench seat (12 team SF .5 ppr). Ruggs could be better this year, but I'm not buying it. Pre-season stuff hyping Ruggs all seemed like fluff to me.

Ruggs serves a role for the Raiders to open things up for Waller and Renfrow.  Gruden should find ways to get the speedster the ball but that didn’t happen at all last year.   

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Ruggs went drafted in my league, Edwards didn't.  Was happy to get Edwards as free agent.  In his limited tape from last season he exhibited great contested catch ability, good YAC and of course his prototypical X WR size + strength.  The camp hype fluff pieces have been comparing him to TO.  Obviously that's hyperbole but he is big bodied and a physical player.

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Any thoughts? Not getting a ton of conversation for the 1st WR drafted in 2020 and only 22 years old.

He played on a college team at Alabama that included Jeudy, Davanta Smith and Waddle, all who are getting pumped this preseason (deservedly so). Yes, he didn't show well last year, but it was a Covid year, he had just turned 21 right before the draft, no preseason, etc. Raiders had a top-10 passing offense, and Carr can throw deep. Curious what the mass thinks. Is Edwards just too much of a threat?

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3 hours ago, gpthatsme said:

Any thoughts? Not getting a ton of conversation for the 1st WR drafted in 2020 and only 22 years old.

He played on a college team at Alabama that included Jeudy, Davanta Smith and Waddle, all who are getting pumped this preseason (deservedly so). Yes, he didn't show well last year, but it was a Covid year, he had just turned 21 right before the draft, no preseason, etc. Raiders had a top-10 passing offense, and Carr can throw deep. Curious what the mass thinks. Is Edwards just too much of a threat?

 

In a recent superflex fantasy redraft of the 2020 class, Ruggs went in the 2nd round.  He's a decoy and probably will be 3rd or 4th on the team in targets.

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Henry Ruggs caught 2-of-5 targets for 46 yards in the Raiders' Week 1 win over the Ravens.

Both Ruggs and Bryan Edwards (4-81) were held without a catch for the first 55 minutes of action before both made some plays late. Ruggs' big grab was a 37-yarder to put the Raiders in the red zone late in the fourth quarter, leading to a Darren Waller touchdown. Ruggs still doesn't see nearly enough volume to make him a reliable fantasy option ahead of Week 2 against the stingy Steelers.

 

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Henry is taking a boom boom on my bench boom.

Bomb for a touchdown. That's why they drafted him, that's why I drafted him. Too few and too far between. He's better than people give him credit for, but I'm afraid this will be his story.

On everybody's bench.

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2 hours ago, rockaction said:

Henry is taking a boom boom on my bench boom.

Bomb for a touchdown. That's why they drafted him, that's why I drafted him. Too few and too far between. He's better than people give him credit for, but I'm afraid this will be his story.

On everybody's bench.

 

Could we be looking at a Tyler Lockett type of arc? 

 

I will say that it was great watching Derek Carr actually THROW the ball downfield.

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4 minutes ago, rockaction said:


He's a lot younger than Lockett was when Lockett broke out, IIRC. If he could be 3/4ths of Lockett, he'd be very useful.

It took Lockett until 4th tear to break out if I recall. I think Ruggs has the possibility to be Lockett's equal. 

Of course I hope that because I flipped a coin last year and Heads equalled Henry and Tails equalled Justin Jefferson lol

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2 minutes ago, Dope said:

It took Lockett until 4th tear to break out if I recall. I think Ruggs has the possibility to be Lockett's equal. 

Of course I hope that because I flipped a coin last year and Heads equalled Henry and Tails equalled Justin Jefferson lol


I earnestly advocated for Ruggs over a bunch of guys, including trading out of the 1.01 for him, but that story is well-told on this board. It could be worse. I guess. I could have taken Denzel Mims and Bryan Edwards with the extra picks, trading Edwards for a two this year.

Oh wait, that worse scenario is exactly what I did. Well then.

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1 hour ago, Faust said:


He's got a whole lot of tracking skills and really good hands;  the problem is that he isn't that great of a classic route runner. For him to break out this year would be quite the thing, data-wise. Consensus, ADP-wise, is usually not as wrong as people will have to have been on Ruggs for that condition to hold.

Not that it can't happen, but it would be awfully rare to fall in ADP in dynasty startup like he did and still remain relevant. The crowd and the sharps would have to be really wrong. Not that they can't be -- don't quote that as definitive, because there's a major flaw in that modelling that depends on crowd wisdom rather than statistical probability of talent and experience -- but it's not historically likely.

Pete Howard did the statistical modeling, but I can't find the citation. I'm sorry.

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5 minutes ago, Kiddnets said:

Its amazing how a 1st rd WR can produce if they actually game plan on getting him the ball.....not sure what Gruden was waiting for nor do I trust him to continue....cautiously optimistic.  

Gruden is the NFL's version of General Jack D. Ripper.

You could probably play a game of "Who said it" with Gruden/Ripper. Can't you see pausing to consider who might have actually said this?:

"Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake. But I... I do deny them my essence."

Or better yet, "Now why don't you just take it easy, Group Captain, and please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater, and help yourself to whatever you'd like."

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The Raiders scored an awful lot of points last year without Ruggs in the mix. It's not like he was necessary to a deluge of offense.

The opposition is going to have to figure out how to take away Waller this year. That opens things up for Ruggs and Edwards. We will see if Carr adjusts and finds those two more often.

Waller is the weapon on that team. Don't forget that.

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He looked so terrible on National TV on MNF. I'm surprised with the bounce back and that he had the mental makeup to do so, as well as get over that mini injury. 

That said, IDK what Carr's been drinking- he is on fire. This Raiders offense will regress at some point, but I still can't trust an ancillary weapon on this team. 

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47 minutes ago, Kiddnets said:

Its amazing how a 1st rd WR can produce if they actually game plan on getting him the ball.....not sure what Gruden was waiting for nor do I trust him to continue....cautiously optimistic.  

Peter King had a good line about Ruggs today "Maybe Ruggs will never be an every-down receiver, but to ruin games he doesn’t have to be. Leave that to Darren Waller, Bryan Edwards and Hunter Renfrow."

He doesn't need 8-10 targets/game to validate his draft position, the threat of what he did yesterday puts immense pressure on defenses and opposing game plans.

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23 minutes ago, TampaMike19 said:

He looked so terrible on National TV on MNF. I'm surprised with the bounce back and that he had the mental makeup to do so, as well as get over that mini injury. 

That said, IDK what Carr's been drinking- he is on fire. This Raiders offense will regress at some point, but I still can't trust an ancillary weapon on this team. 

Ruggs has far more value in real football than magic football.

But if he gets 7 targets/game (unlikely IMO but he is averaging 6 through two games) then he is worth a spot start or three in magic football too.

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1 hour ago, TampaMike19 said:

He looked so terrible on National TV on MNF. I'm surprised with the bounce back and that he had the mental makeup to do so, as well as get over that mini injury. 

That said, IDK what Carr's been drinking- he is on fire. This Raiders offense will regress at some point, but I still can't trust an ancillary weapon on this team. 


He did? He caught a fifty or so yard bomb to set up a touchdown. He didn't look great, and he got bumped off of the ball one play by the defensive back, but that happens to guys every so often.

No, he's never going to be A.J. Brown and fight through that sort of contact easily, but you need to press this guy and account for his speed, at least.

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Henry Ruggs caught 4-of-7 targets for 78 yards in Las Vegas' Week 3 overtime win against Miami.

Ruggs was used in a variety of ways both near the line of scrimmage and downfield, even hauling in a 16-yard reception at the point of catch in overtime. Derek Carr also missed Ruggs streaking open between double coverage in the fourth quarter for a would-be touchdown. Although Bryan Edwards' 89 yards led the team in Week 3, Ruggs' seven targets tied Darren Waller (5/54) for a team-high mark. Ruggs continues to be the better stash in fantasy over Edwards if nitpicking among the team's receivers in deeper leagues.

 

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Henry Ruggs caught 3-of-6 targets for 60 yards in the Raiders' Week 4 loss to the Chargers.

Ruggs was nonexistent before catching a 51-yard bomb in the second half. That play alone helped Ruggs lead the team in receiving on a night Derek Carr threw for just 196 yards. It would be a whole lot more fun if Carr would take more of those deep shots to Ruggs during games instead of just one or two. Ruggs also drew a long DPI call earlier in the night to set up an eventual Darren Waller touchdown. Ruggs has seen target counts of 5, 7, 7, and 6 to start his sophomore year. It's progress, but he remains more of a boom-or-bust fantasy WR4.

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