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RB Cam Akers, MIN (2 Viewers)
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TZMarkie
Footballguy
I'm not a dynasty player generally, but I would likely take this deal in a heartbeat. You are getting a WR2 with upside (at worst) and you are moving a RB that is a question mark at best. Not only that, try and count the "good" RBs that came back from an Achilles tear.....or more specific, which RBs "came BACK good", as several have come back, but they were virtually never near as explosive or as productive. There are literally NONE I can think of, that you would feel comfortable starting, after returning.
Getting a solid WR2 ish guy (for likely a couple more years), and then you may even get a toss in help at IDP?
Thats a win in my book.
I'm all for Cam Akers to come back strong, but I would think its a very small chance of him returning to "good form".
TZM
massraider
Footballguy
I just finished a league that goes 21 rounds deep on offense, and owners can keep any player by giving up that draft pick the next year. Kamara is an 8th round keeper, etc. Someone always gets slick with injured players, I took ETN in the 6th, for example.
Akers went undrafted.
That is probably a mistake by a few owners, but it's a good indication to me how negative the prognosis is out there.
Akers went undrafted.
That is probably a mistake by a few owners, but it's a good indication to me how negative the prognosis is out there.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
ap28.allday
Footballguy
CBS had switched him to IR yesterday... now they changed him to NFI-R, what is this?
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Boone22
Footballguy
I believe it means he is NOT eligible for return this year. It’s NOT a short term IR spot.
ap28.allday
Footballguy
They removed his IR eligibility though, I have an illegal roster with him on my IR now. Hopefully that will get updated prior to kickoff week 1.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Non Football Injury - Reserveap28.allday said:
He got hurt via a non-football situation. He injured himself "while training". Could be the truth, could be a cover-up for something stupid. May even hurt himself doing something that his personal contract said not to do. Can hurt him financially if the team pursued it.
NFI-Active - can return to the team
NFI-Reserve - sits for the year
https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/8/31/17797904/explaining-pup-nfi-ir-other-injury-nfl-roster-designations-cuts-53-man-roster
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/07/nfl-non-football-injury-nfi-list
He should not be available for an IR slot for most leagues. Basically a step-up from an Exempt List.
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ComfortablyNumb
Footballguy
The narrative on good RBs not fully recovering from an Achilles tear is so overblown. The sample size is so small and medical technology continues to improve. I remember when a knee ligament tear was career threatening.
zamboni
Footballguy
Fair point. Not to shift subject matters, but it may also be said for Etienne and his Lisfranc injury
RealReactions
Footballguy
It will be interesting to see how Mack performs once he is traded. I know the players are all different but will still be interesting to see pre-injury Mack against after injury Mack
There's a world of difference between an Achilles and ACL, though.
I'll gladly stay on the conservative side of "I'll believe it when I see it". I still say that the next RB to fully recover to pre-Achilles form will be the first.
Pipes
Footballguy
Due to Akers age I'll put my money on him being the first. Drafted him in dynasty last year so don't have much of a choice not going to give him away.
Selling before the stock goes to zero is the opposite of giving him away.
He's not worth what you paid for him, don't send good money after bad.
jtd13
Footballguy
You're not wrong.
But I am struggling to understand why we have to limit it to RBs when it's such a small and tainted sample size. Surely larger football players like Uzomah or Kwon Alexander, a more explosive athlete like the Russian gymnast who just competed in the Olympics 6 months after tearing his Achilles, or an older football player like Emmanuel Sanders are worthwhile data points in projecting Akers' recovery. Right?
For me, it's simply due to the nature of the position. So much cutting, starting and stopping, changing direction. Then you add on the beating that they take, it's not really comparable to other positions or sports.
jtd13
Footballguy
This is the point I disagree on. I'm no doctor or sports scientist, but it seems like a large male gymnast launching himself into the air and landing, a WR running routes, a TE blocking and running routes, or a LB in pass pro are all going to require a lot of similar stress on the Achilles.
We don't have to agree, but to me these cases are more relevant than the list of RBs. They are more recent, and the list of RBs is mostly older players, old injuries, and guys where it's easy to see why they didn't get another chance regardless of the Achilles injury.
Pipes
Footballguy
How is it sending good money? I already own him and for what I'd like get for him I'd rather take the chance on a comeback. I'm not throwing more money his way and what I'd get now isn't going to put me over the top
Your investment is rapidly approaching zero worth. It’s better to get out now than to gamble on the remote possibility that he will ever gain value to a level higher than he is at right now.
He is damaged goods or DND to many (most?) owners right now and even if he has an Adrian Peterson-esque rise from the ashes, there will always be questions in the back of their minds.
Personally, I wouldn’t pay a future 2nd for him and I can’t see that changing even if he takes the field again.
rockaction
Footballguy
That is utterly ridiculous, in a good way. I saw workouts of him the other day on Twitter doing foot work. He looked like he was doing really, really intense stuff. I'm not sure how good he looked -- whether he looked as good as NFL running backs need to look -- but there certainly won't be any lifelong crippling injury. Dude was moving.
I was happy to hear this and happy to read the headline, but keep in mind that it is McVay, and his lying about injury and injuries knows no bounds.
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kneeshooter
Footballguy
There was always a little mystery around his injury, if it was a partial or not so maybe the recovery is in line with the severity, or lack thereof. If that's the case and the doctors clear him to play I see no reason why you wouldn't use a fully healthy Akers in the playoffs.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Has Henderson and Michel made you forget about this guy?
Would the Rams NOT draft a quality RB next year to push both of these guys and not tie up money long term at a position you should not be paying a lot of money at?
Would the Rams NOT draft a quality RB next year to push both of these guys and not tie up money long term at a position you should not be paying a lot of money at?
jtd13
Footballguy
Modern medicine is incredible. I think he'll return to form (more based on the workout video and other athletes recovering in under a year to top form, which I've already alluded to enough).
rockaction
Footballguy
Depends what kind of draft picks they have and what kind of other needs can be met. I'm serious -- they don't have a first-round pick and likely don't have many later ones. They have one second rounder and two thirds, a fifth, and a seventh.
So it all depends. But yes, they'd likely scour the street or sign guys that can give Henderson and Michel competition, as well as Akers. Depends how Akers winds up physically.
jtd13
Footballguy
I also don't know if there's a prospect as good as Akers in 2022, if he returns to form (obviously the big if). Hall and Spiller might be close.
Nice outlook for him with this news and the Vikings rb and Foreman both looking spry with Achilles injuries in their past. Excited to see him back out there.
To update your post since October, the Rams currently have NO picks in the first 4 rounds of the 2022 NFL Draft after the Von Miller trade. They only have a 5th and two 7ths. They are also near the bottom of the league in projected cap space (not that that has stopped them from making moves in recent years.) So resigning Michel may not be in the cards (although he probably would resign cheaply and maybe there’s a 3 way competition next year.)
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Crazy he might actually play this year
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
MoP's Saturday take from the gut...like the way Michel has been playing these last few weeks and understanding Baltimore Defense ain't what it used to be or usually can be, that said I don't see Michel having a huge day and the entire Rams team on a B2B Road game after handling Minnesota last week 30-23, I see a let down of sorts this weekend, not sure i even like the Rams to win the game. Long road trip after the Holidays into Baltimore, the weather might be icky, I don't see what others are envisioning here.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
For the record, the BAL run DEF is pretty damn good. I went back the last 7 weeks and it looks like there hasn't been any RB that has topped 70 yards against them and only 2 TDs total amongst all of those RBs.
Where the BAL DEF is bad is the secondary. So if you got a RB that runs AND catches (like Joe Mixon last week) then you should be good to go. I've got Sony Michel and while I'm tempted to start him over Damien Harris, Michel is just not involved in the passing game at all which SEVERELY limits his upside against BAL.
Somebody like Akers would be an excellent play IF he was the full time RB 1, but he's not.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Excellent and you are making me feel better about where I am going with my roster. I have about every Ram except OBJ on multiple rosters, some leagues I'm actually only in the Semi this week, sickos like to play Week 18 Championships.
After the Top guys that have been failing me of late like Zeke and Aaron Jones, then I've got to sort thru and figure out Penny-Scott-Wilson(if Mitchell-I/A), I have moved Zeke in and out of the line up a few times, hoping Aaron Jones shows up this weekend, but I also understand and have watched him in a pretty clear time split with AJD that i had not foreseen at the Draft.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I get the spot is ripe for a Rams letdown, but given how Stafford has played lately I think this is a get-right game for him. As a result Sony will benefit from a positive game script and 2nd and short's. Probably needs multiple scores for a league winner like line cause of the matchup, but I'll be very surprised if his box score ends in disappointment.
Sooooooo….he’s looking spry again and appears to be taking his featured job back. He won’t turn 23 until this summer and is about to be the featured back again in a top notch offense. I saw some discussion in the Rams/Cards game thread. Does he ascend to a top 20 dynasty asset this summer?
