dawgtrails
Footballguy
Another gem of an answer from this guy. Holy hell
https://twitter.com/FLSenateDems/status/1486364715055988746?s=20
https://twitter.com/FLSenateDems/status/1486364715055988746?s=20
At least she nailed him down to admit that covid vaccinations reduce hospitalizations. "Based on scientific data of course." You could tell he really, really did not want to say anything good about vaccines. Her rephrasing to get an answer was teeth pulling.Another gem of an answer from this guy. Holy hell
https://twitter.com/FLSenateDems/status/1486364715055988746?s=20
Joseph Lapado still doesn't want the public to know if he has been vaccinated. That's a step further than DeSantis who got his J&J shot behind closed doors. Maybe he could save a few lives, especially among the high number of vaccine hesitant blacks, by promoting vaccinations as aggressively as he and DeSantis have promoted monoclonal antibodies that are highly unlikely to work against omicron, based on laboratory data. But instead, he's lamenting about patient appointments with the Lilly and Regeneron treatments that have been canceled. Lilly and Regeneron agree with the FDA. Lapado's reply is basically these infusions are safe, so what if they're just like saline, hope is more important than science.At least she nailed him down to admit that covid vaccinations reduce hospitalizations. "Based on scientific data of course." You could tell he really, really did not want to say anything good about vaccines. Her rephrasing to get an answer was teeth pulling.
It's amazing that we are supposed to take advice from such a quack. And even more amazing that our gov appointed him to lead FL in public health matters.
It would be shocking if any other governor did that. Not shocking for that particular governor. Bad, really bad, but not shocking.Joe Mammy said:At least she nailed him down to admit that covid vaccinations reduce hospitalizations. "Based on scientific data of course." You could tell he really, really did not want to say anything good about vaccines. Her rephrasing to get an answer was teeth pulling.
It's amazing that we are supposed to take advice from such a quack. And even more amazing that our gov appointed him to lead FL in public health matters.
Call me a pretzel.Personally, this is why I wouldn't be all that bent out of shape if he became President and kept doing what he's doing which is simply creating headlines far more egregious than the actual legislation that gets passed....if it gets passed.
Yeah I know...I guess my point is, this is more "social damage" to the country if he becomes President rather than legislative. At this point, I consider that a win.Joe Mammy said:Call me a pretzel.
that’s the rub. for them, there isn’t. especially in an election year. and when isn’t it an election year.There are some things that are more important than owning the libs
Well...he DID call him jackasses on TV yesterday, so there's that. I appreciate most of the words he said in that press conference and his promise to have "the most tough legislation against antisemitism in the country". I'll be looking out for it to be out shortly.The question of why all these Republican politicians seem to have a problem forthrightly condemning neo-Nazis is starting to remind me of a famous Onion headline.
In all seriousness, I don't believe for a second DeSantis is an anti-Semite (I absolutely think Trump is one, but that's a question for another thread). And I think his press secretary is a professional troll who seems to have no appreciation of the fact that she's speaking on someone else's behalf. But I do think the common thread between this incident and Charlottesville is that both Trump and DeSantis regard the question as some sort of gotcha by the liberal media where their only option is to never apologize and pivot to attacking Democrats. But it's not a gotcha! It's really simple. Just condemn the neo-Nazis! If your spokeswoman says something stupid, just say that she shouldn't have said it. And then condemn the neo-Nazis again.
There are some things that are more important than owning the libs
This is what we really need, someone to take control:Well...he DID call him jackasses on TV yesterday, so there's that.
If I remember correctly he was in a new conference (or maybe SM...don't remember source) and uttered the words "Without a shred of clinical data to support its decision,....." after the drug makers THEMSELVES were out front saying their products didn't work. Then he proceeded to demand 15K MORE doses for his sites that the drug makers THEMSELVES said wouldn't work. I'm not sure what he thinks the words "Without a shred of clinical data to support its decision,...." mean but they definitely aren't what normal everyday people would guess.
It's almost like he expects an adequate portion of people to automatically treat whatever he says as truth even if they know or suspect it is wrong.If I remember correctly he was in a new conference (or maybe SM...don't remember source) and uttered the words "Without a shred of clinical data to support its decision,....." after the drug makers THEMSELVES were out front saying their products didn't work. Then he proceeded to demand 15K MORE doses for his sites that the drug makers THEMSELVES said wouldn't work. I'm not sure what he thinks the words "Without a shred of clinical data to support its decision,...." mean but they definitely aren't what normal everyday people would guess.
and he's definitely not wrong in that expectation.It's almost like he expects an adequate portion of people to automatically treat whatever he says as truth even if they know or suspect it is wrong.
Not exactly a baseless assumption.and he's definitely not wrong in that expectation.
Mr. Bojangles taking the stage again today for round 2 of the senate confirmation committee. See if the dems stay in the room this time.Another gem of an answer from this guy. Holy hell
https://twitter.com/FLSenateDems/status/1486364715055988746?s=20
They are actually talking about this? I hadn't heard anything about it. There is ZERO way I see this happening....not in this state in it's current political climate, but it feels like a small win if they're actually talking about it.Apologies if I missed it but what's going on with the legislative debate about ranked choice voting?
Just a brief look...it appears citizens are trying to get this on the ballot to vote on as an amendment to the state constitutionThey are actually talking about this? I hadn't heard anything about it. There is ZERO way I see this happening....not in this state in it's current political climate, but it feels like a small win if they're actually talking about it.Apologies if I missed it but what's going on with the legislative debate about ranked choice voting?
The expectation that the U.S. Supreme Court will reverse Roe v. Wade and abandon any federal constitutional right to an abortion by June or July has unsurprisingly excited people in the anti-abortion movement, while alarming their pro-choice opponents. But as the days tick by before the announcement of a decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, potentially important divisions are becoming apparent in the ranks of those happy anti-abortion activists and their captive national political party, the Republicans.
[...]
This choice and its political fallout are being played out right now in Florida, where Governor Ron DeSantis and Republican legislators are pushing through a 15-week ban over the objections of activists on both sides of the abortion barricades. As the state senate advanced the ban in a committee on a party-line vote last week, there was a noticeable amount of angst exhibited by those favoring a stricter ban, as the Washington Post reported:
One prominent antiabortion lobbyist, Andrew Shirvell, executive director of Florida Voice for the Unborn, has publicly called on DeSantis to join fellow GOP Govs. Kristi L. Noem of South Dakota and Greg Abbott of Texas to back stricter bans. To date, the strongest abortion law signed by DeSantis, who is up for reelection this year and widely seen as a potential presidential candidate, is a 2020 measure requiring parental consent.\
“We’ve had pro-life majorities in our legislature for close to 30 years and a Republican governor for decades. There is really little excuse for this,” Shirvell said. “If you believe that abortion is murder, then you need to act like it.”
[...]
Florida Democrats are sure to make the new law, once it has been adopted and then activated by the Supreme Court, a major midterm-campaign issue. But DeSantis, who may have an interest in becoming president of the United States in 2024 or later, has a dual problem. He must defend what is likely to be an unpopular law during his own reelection campaign this year, while dealing with the perception of him as a RINO squish by the anti-abortion activists who are an immensely powerful force in the Republican presidential nominating process. If the Court’s ruling in Dobbs appears to be broad enough to make Texas-style bans constitutionally permissible, then DeSantis could always change his position and go for a more draconian law at the risk of making his own reelection a bit harder and possibly splitting his own party. The timing is tricky, but it’s the natural outcome of the devil’s bargain the GOP struck with the anti-abortion movement many years ago. It’s like a mortgage with a giant balloon payment coming due.
Florida Democrats, tired of losing, reveal a voter registration plan to reverse the trend
After watching their once formidable advantage in registered voters evaporate and losing an embarrassing amount of ground in South Florida in the last presidential election, Florida Democrats say they’ve received the message and are going to change. Their solution is to kick off what they’re calling an unprecedented, well-funded effort to register voters.
Top Democratic elected officials and party leaders have announced the launch of a $2.5 million effort to register new voters by the fall deadline for the November 2022 elections.
The effort will deploy “hundreds” of canvassers in “key markets” beginning with “five targeted areas” in Florida. The Democrats on Monday declined to reveal much else from their playbook.
It sounded similar to previous announcements. But state Democratic Party Chairman Manny Diaz, Florida Senate Democratic Leader Lauren Book of Plantation, incoming House Democratic Leader Ramon Alexander of Tallahassee, and Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava appeared together in a video news conference to outline the effort they said would be bigger and better than any party voter registration drive since at least former President Barack Obama’s successful 2012 re-election campaign.
You could replace "Florida Democrats" with "Jacksonville Jaguars" and "voter registration plan" with "Doug Pederson" and I would have precisely the same level of optimism. Maybe more, given that Pederson has actually won something in the past five years.yeah....I'll believe it when I see it
You could replace "Florida Democrats" with "Jacksonville Jaguars" and "voter registration plan" with "Doug Pederson" and I would have precisely the same level of optimism. Maybe more, given that Pederson has actually won something in the past five years.
I don't know a ton about Demings, but from what I have seen of her she is pretty impressive and probably the best Democratic statewide candidate this year (which, if you've read my other posts on the FL Democratic Party, isn't saying a whole lot).Should be a very interesting senate race between Demmings and Rubio.
I voted for Snitker in 2010 and Stanton in 2016. Really don't like Rubio I think he is a typical sleazy politician who has never done a hard day's work in his life.
My problem is I think the libertarian party in Fla has really gone off the deep end. I don't think they will offer me an alternative this time around.
Demmings has raised a lot of cash should be real competitive. Name recognition may hurt her a little. Should be a fun one to watch.
I have to do a little research and see which 3rd party I waste my vote on this time around.
It’s uphill no doubt. agree she’s probably the best candidate D can put forward. I put some faith in rubio’s ability to be a spineless stuffed shirt. fingers crossed.I don't know a ton about Demings, but from what I have seen of her she is pretty impressive and probably the best Democratic statewide candidate this year (which, if you've read my other posts on the FL Democratic Party, isn't saying a whole lot).
But I think that, absent some exogenous shock (like, say, Rubio getting bogged down in a major scandal) she's going to have a very hard time beating him. Consider:
Point being, in order to knock off an incumbent you need a lot of things to break in your favor, and so far at least, most of them are breaking against Demings. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
- 2022 is shaping up to be a pro-GOP year
- Florida, while still fairly evenly divided, has been trending steadily redder over the past few cycles
- The other major statewide race looks like it will be a landslide for DeSantis
- Whatever his faults, Rubio has shown he is pretty good at appealing to Florida's electorate, especially when he can set the narrative and run as a sunny, telegenic, conservative-but-not-too-conservative. (The only time he's stumbled was in the 2016 presidential primary, when he had to try to pretend he was an angry, red-meat conservative, and he came across as a complete phony)
- Demings seems like an attractive candidate on paper, but so far the only elections she has won have been to a D+12 Congressional district
I think she would have been a lot better off if she had emphasized her police career and voiced her support of law enforcement. Especially when her colleagues were screaming defund the police. Instead she waited until now to push for more funding. Why did she wait was it because she was pandering to the far left then. That is not a good look. I also think she should have kept a low profile during the sham of impeachment hearings. I think both those things will hurt her with some voters. If there was a Democrat I could cast my vote for other than Stephanie Murphy it would be her. I've always said we need more regular Joe's to get into politics. She does fit that criteria.I don't know a ton about Demings, but from what I have seen of her she is pretty impressive and probably the best Democratic statewide candidate this year (which, if you've read my other posts on the FL Democratic Party, isn't saying a whole lot).
But I think that, absent some exogenous shock (like, say, Rubio getting bogged down in a major scandal) she's going to have a very hard time beating him. Consider:
Point being, in order to knock off an incumbent you need a lot of things to break in your favor, and so far at least, most of them are breaking against Demings. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
- 2022 is shaping up to be a pro-GOP year
- Florida, while still fairly evenly divided, has been trending steadily redder over the past few cycles
- The other major statewide race looks like it will be a landslide for DeSantis
- Whatever his faults, Rubio has shown he is pretty good at appealing to Florida's electorate, especially when he can set the narrative and run as a sunny, telegenic, conservative-but-not-too-conservative. (The only time he's stumbled was in the 2016 presidential primary, when he had to try to pretend he was an angry, red-meat conservative, and he came across as a complete phony)
- Demings seems like an attractive candidate on paper, but so far the only elections she has won have been to a D+12 Congressional district
Why not make a vote that can knock "Lil' Marco" out?Should be a very interesting senate race between Demmings and Rubio.
I voted for Snitker in 2010 and Stanton in 2016. Really don't like Rubio I think he is a typical sleazy politician who has never done a hard day's work in his life.
My problem is I think the libertarian party in Fla has really gone off the deep end. I don't think they will offer me an alternative this time around.
Demmings has raised a lot of cash should be real competitive. Name recognition may hurt her a little. Should be a fun one to watch.
I have to do a little research and see which 3rd party I waste my vote on this time around.
I've always wondered how family members who are politicians handle situations where they're both potential candidates. Bill and Hillary reportedly had some sort of deal where, as soon as his career was over, she got to run. I've heard rumors that, if Jeb had won his first race for FL governor in '94, he, rather than George W, would have run for president in 2000.He and his wife ran excellent law enforcement agencies. There were no controversial issues with either the OCSD or the OPD while being run by them. He has also been a very good leader as Orange County Mayor. I think he may throw his hat in for Governor race sometime in the future.
I don't know I just might. I haven't voted Democrat since I voted for Graham for Senate back in the 80s.Joe Mammy said:Why not make a vote that can knock "Lil' Marco" out?
Me too.Kinda surprised the state SC rejected Ron's request on the redistricting exercise.
I've been trying to figure this out. There seems to be a substantial number of FL Republicans who want a less aggressive gerrymander, and then a few (like DeSantis) who want to go for it.The Commish said:Kinda surprised the state SC rejected Ron's request on the redistricting exercise.
Me too. She's fizzling out like a neglected pre-roll.Nikki Fried fires her campaign manager, will announce a “restructuring”.
Not surprising, but sad. I initially had high hopes for her, but I have yet to see “it”.
Here's how the article explains the effects of these party switches:‘Highly suspect’: Unusual clusters of Miami voters switched to Republican, data show
More than 100 people who live in the twin Haley Sofge Towers — a public housing complex near the Miami River with about 475 units — changed their political party affiliations during a recent four-month period, adding to questions about whether some residents’ party affiliation was changed without their consent.
Every single one of those voters, 103 of them, switched to the Republican Party, according to a Miami Herald analysis of Miami-Dade voter registration data.
The Haley Sofge Towers has become the focus of county investigators and media in recent weeks, as longtime voters say their political affiliation was changed without their consent after interacting with canvassers. The story of a Little Havana voter whose story drew attention to the claims, 84-year-old Maria Jaramillo, was first reported by WPLG Local 10 News last December. Since then, several other voters have spoken publicly about receiving new voter ID cards in the mail with a different party affiliation.
According to the Herald’s tally, 5,428 people’s party affiliation changed between the October and January registration files. Many of the changes were concentrated in multi-family residential buildings, often low-income housing, raising questions about whether the changes are part of a targeted effort.
That's quite the bank shot. If the FL GOP is switching voters' registration without their consent, that's obviously wrong and whoever is involved in it should be punished. (I would also add that the state party hasn't exactly earned the benefit of the doubt given some of its recent shenanigans.) But I'm having a hard time imagining why anyone would go to such lengths for such an indirect benefit. If I had to guess, I'd say that some local volunteers* were incentivized to boost their registration numbers -- maybe even promised extra for party switchers -- and they got a little overzealous. Reminds me a little of the ACORN "scandal" more than a decade ago, where volunteers were committing fraud against ACORN by submitting registrations for fake names like "Mickey Mouse".Taddeo has said the claims are just a piece of a larger puzzle, saying there’s “clearly a statewide effort that has affected the narrative in the media” about Florida Republicans’ voter registration advantage over Democrats. She has also alleged there are more sinister intentions at play, pointing to Democratic campaign donors who’ve refused to invest in key races across the state.
“They [Republicans] wanted this so that those donors and those investors in Democratic campaigns walk away from Florida, which is exactly what they did,” said Taddeo.
[...]
Taddeo alleged Friday that these changes in party affiliation would hurt primary candidates like herself, whose supporters wouldn’t be able to vote for her. (Florida has a closed primary system, which means that only voters affiliated with a party would be able to vote in that party’s primary.)
that would concern meThis is why I'm not all that concerned about DeSantis as President. He's a jellyfish. Either the "legislation" is created for headline purposes and you get into it and see there are no real teeth or it's created with legit teeth and when rubber meets the road, he backs off. It's comical at this point.
I take your point, but I'm not sure how much that says about how he would operate as president. History tells us that any Republican who gets elected will mostly focus on cutting taxes for rich folks and installing right-wing judges. Beyond that, they don't typically have much that they actually want to accomplish. So yeah, I suppose he wouldn't do much else, but that's more a function of today's GOP than it is any gelatinous qualities he may possess.This is why I'm not all that concerned about DeSantis as President. He's a jellyfish. Either the "legislation" is created for headline purposes and you get into it and see there are no real teeth or it's created with legit teeth and when rubber meets the road, he backs off. It's comical at this point.
As it pertains to foreign policy it concerns me. Not so much with respect to legislation stateside. If we're being honest, NONE of this is a concern unless the GOP holds the presidency and both chambers of Congress. That's the sad state of affairs we're living in.that would concern me
Even worse, he says, because the bill cribs its enforcement mechanism from the Texas abortion law, it gives a huge incentive to schools to be overly cautious regarding anything that can get them sued:Critics have termed the proposal “Don’t Say Gay” legislation and I have to be honest, when this first hit my radar I thought it was too ridiculous to be something that could actually become law.
Maybe this was one of those cases where a freakazoid state legislator proposes some hopeless nonsense for media attention? Or activists overstate the particulars of what’s being proposed for attention? Or maybe it’s one of those scenarios where a president attempts a multifaceted putsch to stay in power and New York Times columnists tell us we shouldn’t take it that seriously because he’s just a big joke and nothing will come of it?
But as it happened: No.
I talked with some people involved in Florida state politics and Don’t Say Gay is not at all DOA.
It has passed the education committees in both Florida’s House and Senate. It has the support of the governor. It is on track to be debated in both chambers in the coming weeks. And while controversial bills that arise early in the session sometimes die on the vine, as things stand today there remains a political path in Florida to codify this effort to silence any gay talk in the state’s schools.
The answer to these hypotheticals all hinge on whether a crazy-### parent of another student sees the valentine or family tree or Pulse book and decides to target the school. In each case, the Don’t Say Gay bill would give our Panhandle Karen something to sue over.
Representative Carlos Smith, the first openly gay member of the state’s legislature, argues that the open-ended nature of the language is a feature, not a bug for those pushing the bill.
“Lawyers are going to be conservative in a way that censors conversations,” he told me. In at least some school districts that is going to “push LGBTQ families back in the closet.” His view is that by keeping the language vague, a better-safe-than-sorry ethos will encourage certain districts to shut down all of these types of conversations.
This is especially a concern in the most sensitive scenario: safety precautions when a student is struggling with questions about their own sexuality or identity. Conversations with mentors at school can be an important outlet for this type of at-risk student. But a Don’t Say Gay bill would make administrators especially reluctant to have staff engage for fear of legal reprisals.
In short they “want kids to be fearful,” Smith said.