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I can't speak for others, but in my case for my job from time to time I have to go into locations where the patients are all high risk. The company procured enough doses for the patients and employees, and after the frontline workers and patients were taken care of, the rest of us were allowed to get it.i didnt realize we had so many important people here to get early shots
OTC would indicate a self test bought off the shelf? I haven't seen any of those yet.
I looked it up. They had received approval already back in December. Pretty sure culdeus posted about it in here.
I guess she mistook today's press conference for an announcement of initial approval. Andy Slavitt, the first speaker, does not make clear that FDA approval took place in December.
It really doesn't take much given the CDC's BMI calculator. I'm 5'6" and bounce between 180 and 184. I'm no body builder but no one accuses me of being fat either, if I ate a big meal and weighed myself I might get to 186 which would get me to obese on their charts. More worried about my wife (diabetic and a teacher) and in-laws (both in their 80's) getting it right now. If they get through are able to then I might see if I can. They are all signed up, just waiting to see if they are actually able to get the shots.
I know. When they include just normal obese, as opposed to morbidly obese, it really opens it up to a lot of Americans.SwampDawg said:
Tom Skerritt said:
So stupid question, when you get these vaccinations, do you quarantine at home or just business as usual?IvanKaramazov said:
Good question. My daughter works in a nursing home and when they did the 2nd round, EVERYONE was sick the next day. Her boss was begging her to come in early, but she felt like crap too. She went in for her shift later in the day just because they were so short on people. She had a 100.4 fever when she left the house, but she was just under 100 on the work thermometer, so they let her in. Not really sure what they were supposed to do in this situation. You assume everyone is just feeling the effects of the shot, but you never really know for sure?
I'd say business as usual if you feel OK. But definitely prepare for a day off work the following day, as it seems to be somewhat common within 24 hours, of the second dose especially. No need to quarantine, as you aren't infected, it's just your body putting up an immune response.... unless you happen to have already been infected at the time of vaccination.
I was supposed to get my second shot on Thursday. Had to reschedule it for Friday, and I’m glad I did. I would have been able to work through it, but I’m glad I didn’t have to do that. Just a low level general body ache.
Yep. This seems like the most logical and efficient way to do it.
I don't miss shaking hands, sitting next to sick people on planes, or getting crammed into a small conference room with people hacking & coughing. It would be amazing if, going forward, sick people would just stay home for a few days before going out into the world.
Yeah. I was reflecting earlier how much I miss hugging friends and family though.
I don't miss hugging very many people. Particularly larger people. I do miss hugging younger, attractive, in-shape females.
Why wouldn’t they space the shots out? Seems like they should have thought of that ahead of time.
I've seen little to indicate foresight or well thought out plans have ever been a part of the rollout process. From top to bottom, all I have seen is pockets of off the cuff cluster-####s.
From what I understand. They are still doing the hub model and pharmacy model. Pharmacy for the reasons you stated. SOmething like 1 million doses to pharmacies and 10 million to the "hubs"
AZ, a British company, started their US trials later than their EU trials knowing the US approval process is longer than in the EU. It is frustrating that the FDA refuses to trust any other country's process in the middle of a pandemic.
Yup. I get it. Let's fix the underlying reasons why that dynamic exists in the wealthiest country on earth.
Yup. And this situation highlights the absurdity of our FDA. The decision to delay this vaccine - the unintended effect - is that the FDA is killing people in the US. They are responsible for any additional deaths due to unwillingness to rely on the EU's process.
She read mind, I've had the first dose of Moderna.
You do it to cope. And now with COVID, dying has become a more solitary event than it was when my parents passed surrounded by family. Do you even get to see the body of your loved one now before burial?
Yes you can have visitation, depending on your state there are no longer any restrictions on the number of friends and family who attend the funeral.
Send him food, send flowers to the funeral home and/or offer to help clear out his parents' place.
Completely agree. Pharmacies have their place but are largely inefficient. Last week we had to significantly ramp up our vaccine appointments because Governor Ducey threatened to take our doses away if we don’t get up to 80% used within a week.
The AstraZenaca is not an mRNA vaccine. Do we know if there's any reason to believe that the mRNA ones will work differently in regards to reducing transmission?
I'm wondering what percentage of the 60% have been infected by covid and have not experienced a reinfection since returning.
Nationwide, or isolated to one place?
From another article (KCBS Radio, San Francisco, 2/2/2021) :
More on the results in Israel - only .06% of vaccinated folks getting sick is pretty awesome.
The unvaccinated control group is getting pounded in comparison. Seems like the unvaccinated population should be shrinking at this point. I would like to see the overall cases and deaths go down in Israel. Not really clear why it hasn't fallen that much with the vaccination % and positive news on the data, although it seems like 3 weeks after the 2 shot is when the efficacy is highest. Hoping the next 2-3 weeks show the overall cases, hospitalization and death start trending down for Israel.
