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My dad has been sick for a few weeks.  My mom called me today to say he was about to die.  I said some final words to him and he could hear me but was unable to respond.  He passed a short time later.

Not to derail anything, but we had our baby last night! She's doing amazingly well. Due to the hospital's pandemic policies, I had to leave her right after my wife was released from recovery. I can't

On a positive note, my wife gave birth to our first child this morning!! We were expecting our daughter to be born in the first week of April, which does not align very well if this hospital sees a ma

8 minutes ago, jobarules said:

Got an antibody test and somehow still negative despite my wife having covid and not isolating and sleeping in the same bed with her back in November. Crazy

You probably detailed this earlier in the thread ... but how symptomatic was she?

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One of the weird things about COVID that's been noticed time and time again is that some infected people shed little to no virus. Others shed tons of it. The variance in virus shedding from patient to patient is gigantic and not yet well understood. Unfortunately, it's impossible to know in advance whether any individual infected person will shed a little or shed a lot.
 

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25 minutes ago, Doug B said:

You probably detailed this earlier in the thread ... but how symptomatic was she?

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One of the weird things about COVID that's been noticed time and time again is that some infected people shed little to no virus. Others shed tons of it. The variance in virus shedding from patient to patient is gigantic and not yet well understood. Unfortunately, it's impossible to know in advance whether any individual infected person will shed a little or shed a lot.
 

She was only a little fatigued. Only reason she got tested in the 1st place was because we were both close contacts with a positive over Thanksgiving. The crazy thing is not only did I sleep in the same bed as her but a few days she made dinner for us and one day I even ate a piece of chicken she bit. This was before we knew she was positive.

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Another thing is I have not been overly cautious about COVID. I wear masks in stores but thats it. I dont sanitize my hands until I come home from store. Ive shaken peoples hands. Ive coached little league baseball during the summer without masks. Ive been coaching baseball indoors with masks but no distancing this winter. Ive gone to peoples houses. Ive had contractors in my house sans mask (they didnt bring covid but they brought bed bugs into my house but thats another nightmare).

Basically Ive done everything Im not supposed to and still havent gotten it. Kind of feel like Im flirting with the devil now. Still looking forward to getting vaccinated.

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I have not been keeping up on this thread and living in Palm Beach quite frankly it feels like we are in a pretty insane bubble thru this pandemic especially as the winter pounded down on my friends in the North, truly I should be publicly flogged if I complain too much in this particular vertical as compared to others we really have had an easy run of it, it's not fair to act like a victim. 

But I still have some notes...

-It was published over a week ago in the Palm Beach Post but over half of the Seniors in Palm Beach County have gotten vaccinated or had their 1st shot.  :clap:  We are kinda open compared to most of the country but this should speed things up around here, certainly teachers should be next up on the list if they aren't already, must get these kids back to school full time. 

-Mrs works in a hospital and received her 1st vaccination yesterday, we felt guilty but they are wanting her in the hospital more and more vs work from home and you cannot risk catching this even if it doesn't kill her, friend in OKC DOWN 17 DAYS in January from this thing, until you catch it or a family member or someone you actually care about has it and calls you with daily updates, might not feel real to you is where I am going. This is a terrible thing to contract. We're Mid-Late 40s, I could get the vaccine if I wanted to but I am still going to wait my turn and not rush the line. I do have some friends in the 55+ range that are overweight by a lot and I want to get them vaccinated next. 

-Private Hospital relies on donations and fundraising, the immediate issue in a pandemic is that everyone thinks they have a right to the vaccine shot right now that has donated money to the hospital...that's a major problem. Phones ring off the hook all day with people announcing they are coming down to the hospital and we have to refuse these folks or let them know it doesn't work that way. 

I hope everyone is doing OK, try to keep your spirits up as I truly believe we are coming towards the end of this in a practical sense but long term it's gonna take forever to really put this behind us. I would urge you to try and start thinking about your life and how you want it to flow in 2021, 2022 and beyond, good time to start dreaming about the life you really want to be living and get past these self made barriers to everything you have put up along the way. 

Cheers!

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On 2/24/2021 at 4:55 PM, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Two weeks after my second shot, I intend to go to the dentist and dermatologist, get a haircut, and even get a massage.  All while wearing a mask though.  I will also move forward with house projects, but again, require masks at all times by any contractors.  I probably will still get delivery for groceries and avoid restaurants.  Might go to the gym for outdoor training classes.

You haven't seen a dentist or gotten a haircut in a year? 

My friend opened a hair salon in Hobe Sound, just North of here and her business is thru the roof already, I had to book an appointment a week in advance. 

I don't know exactly what part of the country you are in LJ but that sounds terrible. Nothing like it's been here in Florida the whole time...I don't sit around and eat indoors much but to wear a mask outside was never something I was going to go along with so anywhere that would be a mandate or expected I would simply avoid and have been. 

Masks outside in fresh air or walking along the beach, they are far and few between wearing masks at the beach. 

I feel so bad for you folks that have obviously had to adjust a lot more than any of us have in Florida. 😪

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Update: The two kids that tested positive (9 year old daughter and 7 year old son) continue to not show any signs of being sick. The entire time the only issue was my daughter throwing up once. And not like a violent "I am sick" throw up but more like a "I ate that greasy burrito too fast and then ran" throw up. One and down. Checking everyone's temp multiple times a day and no has had a temp at all. 

The little one (5 year old son) has been a tad 'off' yesterday and today. Like maybe a little less energy than usual. I am not sure we would even notice if we were not all looking for symptoms. He has not been tested. 

I have had a headache the last couple of days but that could very well because I am a mortgage broker and rates have gone crazy the last couple of weeks. It could also potentially be rona? I dunno. Still have no tested myself. There are a few reasons for that. 

My wife complained about her breathing today. So, yes, that is very worrisome. She does have asthma and mentioned to me that she wasn't sure if her asthma was acting up a little or.... It isn't noticeable really. Not like she is weezing or really struggling for breath. Her Dad is a Doctor. I kept wanting her to call him but she wouldn't but then he called to check up on the kids. He has us using a pulse oximeter to monitor her oxygen levels. So... for the first time since we got the positive test there has been a little bit of 'oh crap'. Hoping she remains fine and it doesn't escalate. Other than that she is fine.

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Glad to see the TX Governor is still in full moron mode. TX has a whopping 5% of the state fully vaccinated, and he's already talking about removing mandates. The dude just refuses to listen to ANYONE qualified and is determined to keep this thing around as long as possible.

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On 2/25/2021 at 3:11 PM, Terminalxylem said:

Droplets and aerosols exist on a continuum. Many respiratory infections spread both ways; the balance between the two helps to determine contagiousness. SARS-CoV-2 appears to have a little more aerosol spread than influenza, but the bulk of epidemiologic data still suggests droplets as the predominant mechanism.

Contagiousness is not determined by mode. TB is fully acknowledged as airborne and is less contagious. Sars 1 has been recognized as airborne for years and i think might be a close relative of Sars 2. But sometimes sequels get discarded, like rocky 5. 

And the bold is mostly untrue. The data doesnt show that at all. The data shows that most infections occur from being in close proximity. Epidemiologists have created the myth that close proximity transmission=droplet, at least for sars2. So therefore they then say that the data shows droplet. It is circular.

This isnt surprising since they have done so for years and have previously declared several diseases to be droplet spread initially. Including the quintessential measles. Which nobody has any problem acknowledging that most transmission occurs from close proximity and that it is airborne. 

This new emphasis on airborne has a special meaning to epis is fake news. It only took on this special meaning after previously declaring Sars2 wasnt airborne. Instead of saying ooops, we were wrong, they came up with a psf type argument of you just dont understand what it means. 

Looking up documents from pre pandemic and it is pretty clear that airborne just meant airborne...

Airborne particles include organisms that remain suspended in the air over time and can be 
dispersed by air currents. These may then be inhaled by others who are nearby or who may be some
distance away
from the source patient

This odd new framing where somehow the contagiousness of a disease factors into mode of transmission determination is clearly just a backpedal. Those topics are completely unrelated. 

Would anybody presume that the infectiousness of all STDs are the same? Would anybody look at the R0 of a disease and then determine it must be an STD because it matches up exactly with chlamydia? These answers should be obvious but yet somehow throughout this pandemic we have epidemiologists saying things like if it was airborne we would see an R0 of 18 like measles. 

This statement is so anti science it is insane. It completely rejects the idea that two diseases can have completely different levels of infectiousness by dose and that mode of transmission is what exclusively determines infectivity. 

I mean seriously, wtf? 

They all knew damn well it is an insane argument which is why the look at my credentials card and the stay in your lane accusations came aplenty. 

And yes these are the people that have helped shape our policies to fight this thing. 

Thanks epis. Thanks. 

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9 hours ago, Chadstroma said:

92 as well as my youngest. I am at 95 but developed a slight cough. Below 90 I guess is cause for concern. 

Most of the approved (and experimental) treatments are recommended at pulse ox less than 94%. And even mild hypoxia can be bad news for asthmatics.

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18 minutes ago, Terminalxylem said:

Most of the approved (and experimental) treatments are recommended at pulse ox less than 94%. And even mild hypoxia can be bad news for asthmatics.

Yeah, don't sleep on the low ox numbers.  Get to the hospital if breathing is troublesome.  This disease is no joke. 

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35 minutes ago, Terminalxylem said:

Most of the approved (and experimental) treatments are recommended at pulse ox less than 94%. And even mild hypoxia can be bad news for asthmatics.

93-92 is actually her normal range apparently. My sons is 97 now. We are monitoring it and keeping her father informed. 

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1 hour ago, Terminalxylem said:

Most of the approved (and experimental) treatments are recommended at pulse ox less than 94%. And even mild hypoxia can be bad news for asthmatics.

How accurate are those finger ones you can use at home or the new apple watch though?

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On 2/26/2021 at 9:45 AM, jobarules said:

She was only a little fatigued. Only reason she got tested in the 1st place was because we were both close contacts with a positive over Thanksgiving. The crazy thing is not only did I sleep in the same bed as her but a few days she made dinner for us and one day I even ate a piece of chicken she bit. This was before we knew she was positive.

That is pretty crazy -- but we have a close friend with very similar situation.  Wife tested positive twice.  Husband and kids never got it.  They were all in the same house together the entire time.   

The part about eating a piece of chicken she bit is irrelevant.  That isn't how COVID spreads.

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3 hours ago, DallasDMac said:

Glad to see the TX Governor is still in full moron mode. TX has a whopping 5% of the state fully vaccinated, and he's already talking about removing mandates. The dude just refuses to listen to ANYONE qualified and is determined to keep this thing around as long as possible.

Friends in TX are mid-40s, a little overweight but no other obvious comorbidities.  Both are getting vaccinated early next week.  I have zero idea how that is possible.

I'm starting to notice people all around me "jumping the line."  Most of them are very open about how they "gamed the system" to get a vaccination scheduled.   Candidly, this behavior really pisses me off.

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3 minutes ago, Alex P Keaton said:

That is pretty crazy -- but we have a close friend with very similar situation.  Wife tested positive twice.  Husband and kids never got it.  They were all in the same house together the entire time.   

The part about eating a piece of chicken she bit is irrelevant.  That isn't how COVID spreads.

Why not? You don't think the virus is in her saliva which is then spread to the piece of chicken she bit? Seems like it would be common sense 

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5 minutes ago, jobarules said:

Why not? You don't think the virus is in her saliva which is then spread to the piece of chicken she bit? Seems like it would be common sense 

It doesn’t seem to follow any single piece of evidence we’ve seen so far.  Is it possible?  Sure.  Likely?  Doesn’t seem like it.

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40 minutes ago, Alex P Keaton said:

Friends in TX are mid-40s, a little overweight but no other obvious comorbidities.  Both are getting vaccinated early next week.  I have zero idea how that is possible.

I think the BMI cutoff is 30. I know that, at least here in San Antonio, if you arrive for a scheduled vaccine and don't meet the requirements, you can be turned away. i.e. They may be scheduled for it but that doesn't necessarily mean they will get it.

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4 minutes ago, themeanmachine said:

If you had a BMI right at 30, but wouldn’t consider yourself severely overweight and are generally pretty healthy, would you sign up for a vaccine when BMI 30+ is eligible alongside other pre-existing health conditions? Or would you wait?

I am getting vaccinated as soon as I can

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29 minutes ago, themeanmachine said:

If you had a BMI right at 30, but wouldn’t consider yourself severely overweight and are generally pretty healthy, would you sign up for a vaccine when BMI 30+ is eligible alongside other pre-existing health conditions? Or would you wait?

I'd prefer everyone get it ASAP. I'm way more likely to run in to Billy Belly at the grocery store than I am 94 year old Millie from the home.

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5 hours ago, Chadstroma said:

93-92 is actually her normal range apparently. My sons is 97 now. We are monitoring it and keeping her father informed. 

Well that makes it less concerning...though asthma alone shouldn’t account for reduced oxygen saturations at rest.

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4 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

How accurate are those finger ones you can use at home or the new apple watch though?

Not sure, but the technology isn’t super complex. If one person’s saturations were consistently lower than another’s using the same device I’d tend to believe it.

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2 hours ago, themeanmachine said:

If you had a BMI right at 30, but wouldn’t consider yourself severely overweight and are generally pretty healthy, would you sign up for a vaccine when BMI 30+ is eligible alongside other pre-existing health conditions? Or would you wait?

While BMI is far from perfect, most people overestimate what constitutes a “healthy” weight.

I despise people who game the system though.

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55 minutes ago, Terminalxylem said:

Well that makes it less concerning...though asthma alone shouldn’t account for reduced oxygen saturations at rest.

:shrug:I never got my MD so I just listen to her father who did. 

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5 hours ago, Alex P Keaton said:

It doesn’t seem to follow any single piece of evidence we’ve seen so far.  Is it possible?  Sure.  Likely?  Doesn’t seem like it.

So if you kiss someone with covid you can't get it but of they breathe across the room you can? Come on. Think logically 

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So I spent the last two days at the Dallas FEMA site volunteering, walked 38000 steps, burned 3800 calories a day and at the end of it got a Moderna short.  

My pandemic is over bois.

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1 hour ago, culdeus said:

So I spent the last two days at the Dallas FEMA site volunteering, walked 38000 steps, burned 3800 calories a day and at the end of it got a Moderna short.  

My pandemic is over bois.

Gaming the system, I see. 😉

Thanks for volunteering. 

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4 hours ago, jobarules said:

So if you kiss someone with covid you can't get it but of they breathe across the room you can? Come on. Think logically 

Kissing someone involves breathing the same air as them.  Eating a piece of chicken on a plate doesn’t necessarily.

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14 hours ago, Alex P Keaton said:

Friends in TX are mid-40s, a little overweight but no other obvious comorbidities.  Both are getting vaccinated early next week.  I have zero idea how that is possible.

I'm starting to notice people all around me "jumping the line."  Most of them are very open about how they "gamed the system" to get a vaccination scheduled.   Candidly, this behavior really pisses me off.

If I understand it right, Texas immediately went to ‘anyone with health conditions’ after health care workers rather than progressing through the age groups. So while a higher risk 40 year old might be eligible now, there might be a lot of people older than 65 who haven’t gotten their shot yet. But again I could be wrong based on the limited research I did to help my mother in law find her shot.

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18 hours ago, themeanmachine said:

If you had a BMI right at 30, but wouldn’t consider yourself severely overweight and are generally pretty healthy, would you sign up for a vaccine when BMI 30+ is eligible alongside other pre-existing health conditions? Or would you wait?

30 is severely overweight whether americans accept this or not.

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18 hours ago, themeanmachine said:

If you had a BMI right at 30, but wouldn’t consider yourself severely overweight and are generally pretty healthy, would you sign up for a vaccine when BMI 30+ is eligible alongside other pre-existing health conditions? Or would you wait?

1. I would get vaccinated and not feel the slightest bit bad about it.  I'm currently waiting my turn to get vaccinated and I have zero interest in trying to jump the line, but I'm planning on getting vaccinated the minute the state tells me I'm eligible.  

2. The overwhelming majority of people with 30+ BMIs are obese.  Sure, there are lots of people at this weight who are totally healthy -- those folks play on Sundays and wear numbers in the 40s and 50s.  Most of the rest are just obese.

3.  Seriously, just take the vaccine and be happy.

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How are people handling the situations of vaccinated grandparents, vaccinated parents, and young kids who obviously aren't vaccinated? 

Free reign as normal, "normal" but with masks, only outside, no interaction???

Wife and I are trying to figure this out now as we are getting our second doses soon.  

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6 hours ago, Biff84 said:

If I understand it right, Texas immediately went to ‘anyone with health conditions’ after health care workers rather than progressing through the age groups. So while a higher risk 40 year old might be eligible now, there might be a lot of people older than 65 who haven’t gotten their shot yet. But again I could be wrong based on the limited research I did to help my mother in law find her shot.

You aren't wrong. Consider this, in San Antonio, when you take first responders, medical folks, people over 65 and all those under 65 that meet the "medical condition" category (of which I was one), it covers 70% of the population. San Antonio is not healthy, lots of medical conditions, and is severely obese. So phase 1A and 1B was damn near everyone.

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31 minutes ago, RUSF18 said:

How are people handling the situations of vaccinated grandparents, vaccinated parents, and young kids who obviously aren't vaccinated? 

Free reign as normal, "normal" but with masks, only outside, no interaction???

Wife and I are trying to figure this out now as we are getting our second doses soon.  

Normal.  Though I'm not thrilled with the idea of them going indoor spaces maskless quite yet.  (like them going to a restaurant) Mainly because they get it it's two weeks of remote school or worse. 

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58 minutes ago, IvanKaramazov said:

1. I would get vaccinated and not feel the slightest bit bad about it.  I'm currently waiting my turn to get vaccinated and I have zero interest in trying to jump the line, but I'm planning on getting vaccinated the minute the state tells me I'm eligible.  

2. The overwhelming majority of people with 30+ BMIs are obese.  Sure, there are lots of people at this weight who are totally healthy -- those folks play on Sundays and wear numbers in the 40s and 50s.  Most of the rest are just obese.

3.  Seriously, just take the vaccine and be happy.

This is what we are deciding. My wife just got her first dose. I won't be for a long time but my 15 year old 

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1 hour ago, RUSF18 said:

How are people handling the situations of vaccinated grandparents, vaccinated parents, and young kids who obviously aren't vaccinated? 

Free reign as normal, "normal" but with masks, only outside, no interaction???

Wife and I are trying to figure this out now as we are getting our second doses soon.  

Have not seen them in over a year (my side of the family).  We have seen her side due to circumstances that were going on.

My MIL has now had her 2nd shot.  My Step Mother had hers last week.  Step Father I think gets his 2nd next week.

I know my Step Mother will be coming down here sometime this spring now that she is vaccinated.  She may be waiting for my daughter's dance recital though if we are allowed to have guests.  She has seen her smaller grandchildren who are in Minnesota closer to her though.

Step Dad has kept pretty much at home...but has had a few meals with my brother and sister.  Kept distanced pretty good.

We have even thought about driving up during our Spring Break...but don't think that is going to happen.  Still too much going on possibly moving my MIL out of her house soon.

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Here's more or less my FEMA volunteer experience.

I went into it knowing that at 15 hours they more or less would give you a shot, this wasn't some altruistic thing, I knew that going in nearly certainly I'd come out of this with a shot.  

I went out there mid morning on Friday, and they gave me the rundown and I went out to basically mark cars with the information like 1st/2nd/Pfizer/Moderna and people inside and how they were going to validate.  I got whisked off to a far corner of fair park and just went thru the line taking down this information and chalk painting it on the windshields.

I wasn't prepared for the emotional reactions people had, tons of people in tears, lots of people rolling go pros and just so many happy faces.  We all got into it, joking with people the whole time taking photos of them in the car.  It was truly a moving thing, we had a great system and got people sorted to the next basically filter in the operation where at the end the Army was giving out the shots.  

Towards the end of the day though I guess someone leaked a hacked QR code or something that got around the system.  This clogged stuff up, so basically we had anyone that looked young and in a nice car we would basically have to tell them "hey if you have code or whatever that wasn't meant from you, taking a federal benefit on false pretenses is a crime."  I think a few people initially got thru but ultimately they caught on up front and a few got some level of citation for interfering with a rescue effort or something relatively minor.

At end of the day they did have leftovers, but I had not had 15 hours yet and didn't get a shot.  Headed home 13000 steps down.

Woke up next morning and headed out, met my crew from yesterday and we went to the very front of the operation.  I marked cars in the morning, and there seemed to be nearly no scammers at all.  I think the news mentioned you'd get pulled over by the feds so that tightened things up and made the whole operation run I mean super smoothly.

The afternoon I ran complete point of the whole spear, basically funneling cars into slots to move them thru as fast as I could sort them.  The whole PM Saturday was just a work of art, we were doing 1000s of shots an hour easy getting people in and out of each category super fast.  

People talk about how you remember how things began and ended.  Mine ended there, sorting cars, hi-fiving people, taking selfies as they went on in to end theirs.  

I encourage everyone to look and see if they can help, these sites need help.  Truly.  They need smart people that can organize things.   It's one of my skills and I was happy to help for two days. 

At the end of the 2nd day at 15 hours I lined up, got my shot from an Army corporal, waited and left.  

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I have been following Eran Segal of the Weizmann Institute in Israel who has been studying the data on their vaccination program. He has been very positive about the data, but posts this today:

“Remember that vaccine efficacy was measured under conditions of masks and social distancing Efficacy is the sum of biological protection of the vaccine and protection resulting from public behavior. If behavior changes, efficacy will likely decline, perhaps even significantly”

WTF? I’m not a doctor, but what is the point of the vaccine if this is true? 

https://mobile.twitter.com/segal_eran/status/1365930703716835328

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2 hours ago, culdeus said:

Here's more or less my FEMA volunteer experience.

I went into it knowing that at 15 hours they more or less would give you a shot, this wasn't some altruistic thing, I knew that going in nearly certainly I'd come out of this with a shot.  

I went out there mid morning on Friday, and they gave me the rundown and I went out to basically mark cars with the information like 1st/2nd/Pfizer/Moderna and people inside and how they were going to validate.  I got whisked off to a far corner of fair park and just went thru the line taking down this information and chalk painting it on the windshields.

I wasn't prepared for the emotional reactions people had, tons of people in tears, lots of people rolling go pros and just so many happy faces.  We all got into it, joking with people the whole time taking photos of them in the car.  It was truly a moving thing, we had a great system and got people sorted to the next basically filter in the operation where at the end the Army was giving out the shots.  

Towards the end of the day though I guess someone leaked a hacked QR code or something that got around the system.  This clogged stuff up, so basically we had anyone that looked young and in a nice car we would basically have to tell them "hey if you have code or whatever that wasn't meant from you, taking a federal benefit on false pretenses is a crime."  I think a few people initially got thru but ultimately they caught on up front and a few got some level of citation for interfering with a rescue effort or something relatively minor.

At end of the day they did have leftovers, but I had not had 15 hours yet and didn't get a shot.  Headed home 13000 steps down.

Woke up next morning and headed out, met my crew from yesterday and we went to the very front of the operation.  I marked cars in the morning, and there seemed to be nearly no scammers at all.  I think the news mentioned you'd get pulled over by the feds so that tightened things up and made the whole operation run I mean super smoothly.

The afternoon I ran complete point of the whole spear, basically funneling cars into slots to move them thru as fast as I could sort them.  The whole PM Saturday was just a work of art, we were doing 1000s of shots an hour easy getting people in and out of each category super fast.  

People talk about how you remember how things began and ended.  Mine ended there, sorting cars, hi-fiving people, taking selfies as they went on in to end theirs.  

I encourage everyone to look and see if they can help, these sites need help.  Truly.  They need smart people that can organize things.   It's one of my skills and I was happy to help for two days. 

At the end of the 2nd day at 15 hours I lined up, got my shot from an Army corporal, waited and left.  

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4 hours ago, RUSF18 said:

How are people handling the situations of vaccinated grandparents, vaccinated parents, and young kids who obviously aren't vaccinated? 

Free reign as normal, "normal" but with masks, only outside, no interaction???

Wife and I are trying to figure this out now as we are getting our second doses soon.  

My mom and MIL are still being pretty safe with the quarantine so they’re over all the time. My dad is...not, but he’s vaccinated so we let him hug on our son. We keep him outside on the patio though lol. He only comes over for an hour or so once a month so not a big deal. The grandmas are here and inside all the time. 
 

Two of our younger friends are in medical and are vaccinated so we let them hug on him but everybody still has a mask on. 
 

I would expect the second half of the year when everybody in our circle except our son has a shot, we’ll be maskless. 

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16 minutes ago, ericttspikes said:

I have been following Eran Segal of the Weizmann Institute in Israel who has been studying the data on their vaccination program. He has been very positive about the data, but posts this today:

“Remember that vaccine efficacy was measured under conditions of masks and social distancing Efficacy is the sum of biological protection of the vaccine and protection resulting from public behavior. If behavior changes, efficacy will likely decline, perhaps even significantly”

WTF? I’m not a doctor, but what is the point of the vaccine if this is true? 

https://mobile.twitter.com/segal_eran/status/1365930703716835328

It's a stupid take even if it's technically accurate.  Even the J&J  vaccine, which isn't quite as good as the Pfizer/Moderna vaccinces, prevents severe disease and death.  Isn't that what we care about?  They were tested in all kinds of countries, including Brazil which never did jack crap about masks and distancing.  Just more red meat for the doomscrollers. 

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1 minute ago, Willy said:

It's a stupid take even if it's technically accurate.  Even the J&J  vaccine, which isn't quite as good as the Pfizer/Moderna vaccinces, prevents severe disease and death.  Isn't that what we care about?  They were tested in all kinds of countries, including Brazil which never did jack crap about masks and distancing.  Just more red meat for the doomscrollers. 

You do realize the higher the infection rate, the greater the chance of a new strain developing right? So no, the current strain isn't ALL we should be worried about. We need to worry about herd immunity, which Fauci has mentioned more than once.

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21 minutes ago, ericttspikes said:

I have been following Eran Segal of the Weizmann Institute in Israel who has been studying the data on their vaccination program. He has been very positive about the data, but posts this today:

“Remember that vaccine efficacy was measured under conditions of masks and social distancing Efficacy is the sum of biological protection of the vaccine and protection resulting from public behavior. If behavior changes, efficacy will likely decline, perhaps even significantly”

WTF? I’m not a doctor, but what is the point of the vaccine if this is true? 

https://mobile.twitter.com/segal_eran/status/1365930703716835328

I think his intention was to support ongoing social measures to help keep people safe, but he ends up undermining the role vaccines play. He's conflating "efficacy of vaccines" with "number of people getting sick". Yes more people will get sick if lighten up on masks and social distancing, but that does nothing to change the efficacy of the vaccines.

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8 minutes ago, DallasDMac said:

You do realize the higher the infection rate, the greater the chance of a new strain developing right? So no, the current strain isn't ALL we should be worried about. We need to worry about herd immunity, which Fauci has mentioned more than once.

Yes I do.  That's not what his tweet or my reply was about.  He never mentioned anything about variants.  His tweet is about the efficacy of the vaccines and he supposes it is very much related to people's behavior.  If he said we need to avoid a new variant that can escape the vaccines I would agree. 

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Was thinking of this thread last night. It has been just about a year since everything fell apart around here. We had a trip to Niagara Falls booked for my birthday in March that we cancelled due to uncertainty around COVID. On March 17th we had our first case at work. Led to an outbreak. A coworker's wife died. Since then I know over 45 people that have had it including both my sons, my daughter-in-law and grandkids. A number of people who have died. My son who lives with me had it and my wife and I avoided it. I believe whole heartedly that we were able to navigate those two weeks safely because of this thread. I got most of my information from here. Was masking before anyone else because of this thread. Didn't run out of toilet paper because of the updates here about it happening in Australia. Went shopping and stocked up the day Trump announce the national emergency because I got a heads up about it in here. People went nuts and cleaned out all the grocery stores the next day. Never ran out of liquor because we stocked up before everyone ELSE thought of that idea. 🤣 Have had sanitizer, masks, cleaning supplies and most of all a PLAN in case of someone getting it in the house. When my son, daughter-in-law and kids had it I was able to give them advice and supplies. My father is now fully vaccinated. I have 3 older sisters. They all have either been fully vaccinated or at least gotten the first shots. Things are definitely turning the corner. We are not out of the woods yet, but we are getting closer. 

The last year has been one hell of a ride. I just wanted to thank everyone who has been in this thread helping with news, information and providing an outlet. I really do feel like this thread here helped me tremendously. You guys rock!

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