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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (13 Viewers)
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Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I was one of those people that hunkered down throughout this whole thing (mainly because of my health), but now that my family is all vaccinated, we are starting to venture out more. Today, I went into Sams for the first time since January of 2020 and boy, did it bring back memories. If you look back at the beginning of this thread, I was one of the early prepping people and I took several Sams runs right at the end of January last year so my family could be ready for this.
I guess it is stupid, but I couldn't explain the excitement of being in this store.Maybe if there is something to take from this whole experience it is to enjoy the little things, you know?
Funny part is I got to the register and my membership had expired months and months ago.
I guess it is stupid, but I couldn't explain the excitement of being in this store.Maybe if there is something to take from this whole experience it is to enjoy the little things, you know?
Funny part is I got to the register and my membership had expired months and months ago.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
One thing positive that will come out of this is I will wear masks when doing yard work from now on. I have bad allergies to things like grass and pine - I was stubborn and wouldn’t buy masks. With Covid, I had so many around that this spring I started using them and it makes a huge difference.
Tl;dr - I’m a moron
belljr
Footballguy
I need to do this. I went to allergy doc last year. I'm allergic to 4 things. And on their scale 0-4. I was 0 for everything except what I was allergic too. Those things I was a 4.
Ragweed
American weed or something
Some other weed
And ####### dust. I'm allergic to dust. It explains why I'm always stuffy
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Don’t know the details yet but Safeway/Albertsons/etc are launching a 2 pack rapid test for like $25. Our previous attempt was worthless, like $135 for a mail-in kit that takes 4-5 days but this seems really good.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Sobering study of COVID survivor's subsequent health.
tl;dr - even a mild case of COVID increases your chances of dying within six months. Among all cases, an extra 1 in every 125 people died. In severe cases, one in 35 did. That's above and beyond the number who would be expected to die otherwise.
tl;dr - even a mild case of COVID increases your chances of dying within six months. Among all cases, an extra 1 in every 125 people died. In severe cases, one in 35 did. That's above and beyond the number who would be expected to die otherwise.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This was actually the part of covid that scared me the most. Such a weird disease.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I'd like to see some #s though -- it's hard to parse out exactly what they're saying in a couple places.
I'd be especially interested in knowing what this looked like in asymptomatic cases. What exactly does "mild" mean here?
I'm sorry but this makes little sense to me
What would be the cause of death for people 6 months later if they had a mild case?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I think we're going to learn a lot more about "long covid" in the coming months. My vague sense is that for understandable reasons, it hasn't been a super-high research priority, but it's likely to get more study now that we're getting the pandemic under control.
belljr
Footballguy
These later deaths due to long-term complications of the infection are not necessarily recorded as deaths due to COVID-19,” Al-Aly said. “As far as total pandemic death toll, these numbers suggest that the deaths we’re counting due to the immediate viral infection are only the tip of the iceberg.”
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Covid affects people in really strange ways. From the article:
It's weird and extremely counter-intuitive that a respiratory coronavirus would cause blood clots or kidney problems, but yet it apparently does.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Publix and Traders Joe say masks are optional for vaccinated people. I only saw one person without a mask st Publix, an older cashier clerk, in a South Beach Publix. Some people haven't gotten the message yet, some aren't vaccinated and some are still very cautious, which could make some sense for those living with at-risk unvaccinated people.
If the vaccine doesn't prevent mild covid how does getting the vaccine prevent long term effects?
top dog
Footballguy
The vaccine doesn't prevent EVERYTHING from COVID, but it is the best chance of not dying or ending up in the hospital. Some people will get vaccinated, and still have problems from COVID. But many MORE people will get the vaccine and AVOID death/long term effects because their body had a jump start at fighting the virus.
Perfect? No. But the best we got. Still better than saying "ef it. If you die, you die."
culdeus
Footballguy
There's a guy I know that got it pretty bad. Not quite hospital but close. 4 mos. Later has a heart attack. In 40s dead. I found it a little odd other than sad. I haven't heard many other similar anecdotes really. If the rate was really that high I feel like we all would have.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
It's a real thing - but not always heart. My friend has a chronic, progressive lung condition. Some people get kidney trouble. I expect we'll learn a lot about this over the next 12-18 months.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
identikit
Footballguy
Common sense-wise, I'd say that's impossible for all of the deaths to be connected to Covid.
People making that leap in every instance is more panic than reason for me.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Agreed that not every death is connected to Covid.
But if people that had Covid are statistically more likely to have a stroke than people that didn’t have Covid it seems like a good reason to try to avoid getting Covid.
identikit
Footballguy
I agree 100%, obviously.
Just don't like seeing every subsequent death portrayed as a direct result of Covid.
That isn't helpful IMO.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
My brothers entire family got Covid in Apri, 2 days before he was to get his first shot. They are doing better now, with some on going issues. His wife has phantosmia and smells cigarette smoke. Sometimes it's so pronounced it effects her breathing and makes it seem like she's suffocating. While ill, my brother suffered from hallucinations that sounded like an acid trip. From laying in a fetal position and mind racing, to walking around thinking he was 9 feet tall. Bizarre. Maybe the hallucinations were from the fever or lack of oxygen, but it almost seems like Covid tinkers with the brain. Scary stuff. My bro has a heart condition, so we were worried about him. He's glad to make it through and doing much better, but he said he wouldn't recommend getting it and it was awful. Sounded like his household was like Lord of the Flies for a few weeks. Kids left to fend for themselves type stuff.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
People aren’t willy-nilly blaming deaths on covid. But studies like this suggest a reason why covid may contribute to excess deaths from cardiac causes, even after recovery from mild disease.identikit said:
Late neurologic and kidney findings have also been described, so it wouldn’t be surprising if deaths from stroke and kidney failure occur.
All three basically relate to the propensity for SARS-CoV-2 to cause inflammation and clots in blood vessels, both during acute illness and convalescence.
identikit
Footballguy
I believe you.
Only point I was trying to make is that anecdotal items, like the ones often posted in the forums here, aren't always in any way connected to Covid.
jamny
Footballguy
If you have friends or family that are experiencing the weird smells of Phantosmia or Parosmia, encourage them with the knowledge that it does go away eventually in the vast majority of people. It may not be for many months but knowing that it isn't usually permanent will go a long way in keeping their sanity to keep pressing on. Tackle it head on and don't let it win. Fight through the tolerable tastes and smells and really savor the ones that taste good to try and train your brain again. If your brain doesn't recognize a smell or taste, it gives it a bad one to prevent you from eating it. Some people say they can tolerate scrambled eggs but not fried eggs. So eat scrambled eggs and really taste them to send the trigger to your brain. Keep smelling and tasting what you can to get back to normal.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
How do you know your body won't have long term effects from Covid if vaccinated? You can still get Covid you just don't experience the severity of the symptoms. But that doesn't mean you won't have the same long term effects of getting Covidtop dog said:
identikit
Footballguy
Holy crap, more power to you. I know you've mentioned health issues before, but I don't think I could have made that. I went to Costco so much during the past year+ because we ate so much at home, etc. I used the crap out of Amazon as well, but I think I would have gone stir crazy. So glad we are one 14 year old away from fully vaccinated now.Courtjester said:
top dog
Footballguy
You wont. But your odds are greater than if you dont. Its all about assessing risk isn't it? We talk about "99.7 survival rate" all the time, but decide to ignore the odds being greater in your favor with the vaccine.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Seems like a good way to go to jail for fraud if you get caught. Not sure that seems worth it to me. Why would you fake test results instead of just getting tested?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I have no idea how likely you are to get caught or what the penalties are for getting caught, but I agree with GroveDiesel that this seems like a bad idea.
culdeus
Footballguy
Lol they aren't going to send someone to jail over a fake test. I pull up a screenshot of a result they don't have a way for the gate people to cross check it. I'm sure the Mexican jails are nice in the summer though
otb_lifer
Footballguy
depending on the state you get pinched in, you might get more time than those who are hauled in for assault, etc
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
If you’re in Mexico, pretty sure the resorts and even airport offer tests. Again, not sure why you’d fake it when it’s so easy to get.
Doug B
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
Waste of money, and resources. If we don't need masks anymore to walk around why are we asking vaccinated travelers to submit to a test we don't really care if they fail or not at home?
The Z Machine
Footballguy
My company just said employees can go maskless now on campus IF they prove vaccination with a card / app that shows they are 2+ weeks beyond last dose.culdeus said:
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Not sure when this happened, but I just noticed yesterday that our grocery store took down the "please wear a mask" sign. I'd say that maybe two-thirds of folks were still wearing a mask anyway (me included -- just being a conformist for the time being, plus they were asking us nicely to wear masks the last time I was there so I wasn't expecting a policy change).
No point behind any of this -- just another piece of anecdata.
No point behind any of this -- just another piece of anecdata.
Doug B
Footballguy
The same thing is happening locally (New Orleans mettro), at several local and national-chain retailers & groceries. All at once. Masking compliance is still well north of 90% for now.
Gotta say I'm pretty surprised. I thought most private retailers would want to keep business-level masking in place for at least a few more months. I was pretty much counting on it to go on throughout the summer.
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
Timing of this has been awesome for me. Grocery store announced yesterday that they are no longer requiring masks for anyone that is fully vaccinated. Coincidentally, yesterday is also the day I became fully vaccinated. Did my first mask-free grocery trip today and it was very liberating. Also noticed they removed the social distance stickers from the floors. Love it.
Id say customers were about 60% masked, and probably some of them just didnt know the new rules or see the new signs. Employees were probably only 20-30% masked. I'm actually starting to feel bad for people who truly dont want to get the vaccine (for whatever reason), but also want to obey the rules. They are destined to wear a mask for a long time while others are moving on. Saw a good number of older people with masks on today. They should be well past the point of being fully vaccinated if they wanted to be.
