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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (11 Viewers)
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East Coast Bias
Footballguy
Seattle public schools closing for at least 2 weeks.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I'm of the belief China put this virus out intentionally or let it come out not intentionally but didn't care. Wanted to control the protests in Hon Cong and did it plus other protest. By quarantine people it gave the government an accuse to use these measures. I don't think they meant for the virus to spread out of control into other countries though. I had a friend who taught in China for the last 5-7 yrs and has always been some what defensive of their government. Even he said he wouldn't rule out the government letting it spread. Call it a conspiracy call it whatever but the restrictions in China and other countries such as theirs governments will do anything to control the mass population.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Several buffets in Vegas are closed.
Statorama
gangster
It seems like they should be able to have a fan of one team at one end and a fan of the other team on the other end.
"WATCH OUT FOR THE PICK ENZO!"
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Doug B
Footballguy
Correct.. 91% isopropyl alcohol is the common percentage of drug-store brand alcohol (Walgreens, CVS, etc.). Using that with aloe vera gel, use 7 parts 91% alcohol to 3 parts aloe vera gel to yield ~63% hand sanitizer.
It will be watery -- the homebrew sanitizer recipe does not yield a gel. And you gotta mix it very well ... spend a few minutes on this and get the gel well incorporated into the alcohol. If you use clear aloe vera gel, the mix should be a translucent milky-white color.
Applying this watery homebrew sanitizer is somewhat different than applying Purell. You'll need more than you think because the homebrew evaporates faster than Purell, making it harder to spread all over the fronts and backs of hands, between fingers, etc. You might need to apply twice -- once for palms and inside of fingers, then again for the backs of your hands. Experiment with application (coverage of all parts of your hand below the wrist) until you get it down pat.
Because of how watery it is, the homebrew sanitizer also works well in little spray bottles ... the travel-size kind that makes a stiff little puff of mist. I made my son a little spray bottle to bring to school. Much easier for him to apply.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Warriors playing to empty seats tonight.
DJackson10
Footballguy
NBA is already in talks to make decisions on possible having games played in cities where it hasn't been effected yet.
shader
Footballguy
Scousers must think fire kills the corona virus
https://twitter.com/TheRedmenTV/status/1237815395102441472?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheRedmenTV/status/1237815395102441472?s=20
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Insoxicated
CORONAVIRUS : Weekly Snapshot Survey #3 - Now open until Friday afternoon.
I'll chart responses to track trends starting after this week
I'll chart responses to track trends starting after this week
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
I can't find a link that the whole district is closing yet. I see a couple of schools are:
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/education/two-seattle-public-schools-join-throng-of-115-plus-washington-schools-that-have-closed-over-coronavirus-concerns/
There is also a district meeting happening today 4:15 pacific and I'm sure this will be discussed:
https://twitter.com/SeaPubSchools?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
If you have an insider track, good on ya.
moleculo
Footballguy
they could easily have at least one fan per section. If it made them feel better, give the fans a health screening first (temp check, at least).
And, NO HIGH FIVES!
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
JaxBill
Footballguy
Thanks. He did have a mild fever but it passed. The big differences were no Shortness of Breath and his throat was enflamed.
Plus they discounted his exposure somewhat because it was in a large group setting. He has no idea who exactly was the carrier but he knows it wasn't any member of his immediate group.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Weebs210
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
That doesn't sound good. How does living in the air for several hours compare to other viruses? Michael Osterholm on the Joe Rogan show was also talking about how this transmits through the air...
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Its all coming to a head pretty fast. This is big for the legal community:
Just received from a clerk in Dane County WI
Just received from a clerk in Dane County WI
East Coast Bias
Footballguy
Worm
slimy ninja
joffer
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
You can also find 70% alcohol in stores (it's usually available in 70% and 91% side by side). Yes, some people do put the 70% in a spray bottle and just use that. If you do that, you'll want to separately use some aloe vera or other moisturizer now and then to keep you hands from cracking. Or maybe some moisturizing soap ... something like that.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
East Coast Bias
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
It works ... but yeah, you have to use more than you think because of the quick evaporation. In a spray bottle, it's not a quick single spritz. It's like three or four or five spritzes, then a mad dash to spread it all over before evaporation.
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
You got it!
https://www.seattleschools.org/district/calendars/news/what_s_new/coronavirus_update
Thanks for the update.
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belljr
Footballguy
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
The Captain
Footballguy
Say goodbye to the cruise industry.https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/coronavirus-norwegian-cruise-line-leaked-emails-show-booking-strategy-11590056
“Some of the recommended responses are blatantly false. For instance, cruise bookers were instructed to tell potential customers coronavirus is not a concern in warm Caribbean climates.
"The Coronavirus can only survive in cold temperatures, so the Caribbean is a fantastic choice for your next cruise," one talking point reads.
"Scientists and medical professionals have confirmed that the warm weather of the spring will be the end of the Coronavirus," reads a second.
Another line instructs that "the Coronavirus cannot live in the amazingly warm and tropical temperatures that your cruise will be sailing to."
Jesus
shader
Footballguy
If this thing just cannot be stopped from infecting the country, this is where leadership is needed. I work for a large company. We are getting direction on what to do, which is why I won't be travelling for probably a long time.
The USA and other countries need leadership.
There is an argument to be made for not blowing up the economy and shutting everything down. Instead, plan, plan, plan.
How about a 1 trillion dollar stimulus package. Too much? 500 billion, I don't care.
Right now you give every hospital in America 200 people and all the money they need to greatly expand their ICU. Do whatever it takes.
Buy every ventilator you can. Work deals with China to buy as many as are needed. Do this right now.
Let the economy keep going, keep older ones quarantined, kids drop off food at their parents doorsteps...this is all possible.
But it takes leadership and a plan.
Shutting down the entire economy for 2 months if it's going to infect everybody anyway could end up being the wrong move as it will take a terrible situation and make it much worse.
The USA and other countries need leadership.
There is an argument to be made for not blowing up the economy and shutting everything down. Instead, plan, plan, plan.
How about a 1 trillion dollar stimulus package. Too much? 500 billion, I don't care.
Right now you give every hospital in America 200 people and all the money they need to greatly expand their ICU. Do whatever it takes.
Buy every ventilator you can. Work deals with China to buy as many as are needed. Do this right now.
Let the economy keep going, keep older ones quarantined, kids drop off food at their parents doorsteps...this is all possible.
But it takes leadership and a plan.
Shutting down the entire economy for 2 months if it's going to infect everybody anyway could end up being the wrong move as it will take a terrible situation and make it much worse.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Do these colleges Give refunds for closing?
JbizzleMan
Footballguy
@michaelkruse
“I’m not sick!” a lady just hollered to everybody within earshot at the grocery store after sneezing. “It’s allergies!”
belljr
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
It's crowdsourced ... thought that would typically help it stay current, but I guess there will be some lapses. Someone got the first Memphis case on there.
culdeus
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
JaxBill
Footballguy
No. He didn't have shortness if breath. His fever wasn't severe or long lasting enough. Plus his throat was enflamed which isn't consistent enough.
They didn't even test him for regular flu, just Strep because of the inflammation.
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
This is why they're all offering on-line education. It does bring up a good question about boarding and meal costs, though?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
CurlyNight
Footballguy
I just got back from the store. Some dude with a coughing all over the place kid was going through the produce section teaching him the names of fruits and veggies.
@michaelkruse
“I’m not sick!” a lady just hollered to everybody within earshot at the grocery store after sneezing. “It’s allergies!”
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Flu and coronavirus infection can coexist, but it isn’t common, less than 5% of cases in one study in kids. But that was pre-C-19.
Bacterial infection can complicate viral pneumonia also, and is well described with influenza. It can happen with C-19 too, but I read a clinician’s summary from WA than suggested it isn’t as common as occurs with flu.
Regardless, even if patients don’t present with multiple infections, being hospitalized and exposed to respiratory equipment increases the likelihood of a secondary bacterial pneumonia.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
(Another Medrxiv preprint :( )
Pump the brakes on the "lives in the air" for hours thing -- that's in a very specific laboratory condition which is not met in real life. From the original preprint that is linked in your article (bottom pg 4 - top pg 5) Sorry for bad formatting below. Note that they call the novel coronavirus "HCOV-19" ... the one labeled SARS-CoV-1 is the 2003 SARS virus:
Photos of the type of machine used in the aerosol experiment.
...
It's not that the virus "dies" in the air ... it's that gravity does its work and the virus falls to the ground or wherever. It's not like if a COVID carrier sneezed in a doorway at noon, and then you walk through that same doorway at 1 p.m. that there are still sneeze droplets in the air ready to infect you.
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Keerock
Footballguy
Too bad we can't see the results from past pollsCORONAVIRUS : Weekly Snapshot Survey #3 - Now open until Friday afternoon.
I'll chart responses to track trends starting after this week
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
The same poster who ignored me when I challenged an unrelated, baseless assertion. Later, he ignored the guy with whom he made the bet
