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Insoxicated
Bingo. I'm sure there are a lot of folks who can't afford to pre-buy an extra months worth of groceries in advance… That is certainly unfortunate.
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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (13 Viewers)
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BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I hope you've picked attractive neighbors, for Stage 5, repopulation.[icon] said:
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Insoxicated
Having a far greater surplus of quality hospital beds, A smaller geographical area to enforce, a great head start on what was coming, and an intelligent/tech savvy/compliant population.
Sadly very few of those benefits translate over to us.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
fwiw, my wife says the same thing yesterday. We (well public) should not purchase masks as that only serves to reduce the availability for those that really need them like health care workers, people who see / interact with the public all day (think cashiers), and those with the virus.
culdeus
Footballguy
There was a report out yesterday that would indicate if you pass over the Serious threshold you are ####ed.
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Insoxicated
TIL healthcare staff swing by Home Depot on their way to the hospital each day to get their daily allotment of masks.. But the masks only protect against infection when used within the geographical boundaries of a hospital.
Thats a lot of technology they pack into that tissue paper.
Does your wife get her masks from Home Depot or Lowe's, or does she prefer to price shop?
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-fish-
Footballguy
Thousands of Americans die because they can't afford insulin, cancer treatments, and other essential medications. You think we're going to suddenly nationalize big pharma? No chance.
Doug B
Footballguy
A COVID patient going critical is more dumb luck (and underlying conditions) more than anything else, isn't it?
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
That's not on the news. That's not part of mass hysteria. And that stuff isn't contagious. You're crazy if you think anyone would have to pay for it.
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Footballguy
Same reason every time I used to get an email from the elementary school about some kid having lice that my scalp would suddenly itch?why is it every time this gets posted and I'm reading it, I find myself scratching my nose or rubbing my eye or something?
The Z Machine
Footballguy
@[icon], did you see the part about cashiers, or did you just want to be a jerkface?TIL healthcare staff swing by Home Depot on their way to the hospital each day to get their daily allotment of masks.. But the masks only protect against infection when used within the geographical boundaries of a hospital.
Thats a lot of technology they pack into that tissue paper.
Does your wife get her masks from Home Depot or Lowe's, or does she prefer to price shop?
Doug B
Footballguy
Z can answer for himself ... but I think his wife's point was that it's easier for most people to self-isolate to an extent, even when we go out in public. For those who can't (healthcare, public-facing jobs, etc.) the masks make more of a difference.TIL healthcare staff swing by Home Depot on their way to the hospital each day to get their daily allotment of masks.. But the masks only protect against infection when used within the geographical boundaries of a hospital.
Thats a lot of technology they pack into that tissue paper.
Does your wife get her masks from Home Depot or Lowe's, or does she prefer to price shop?
-fish-
Footballguy
It's not? Can't get through a presidential debate or speech without hearing it. You think hysteria is going to somehow convince drug companies to stop making profits? One of us is crazy, that's for sure.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Scoresman
Footballguy
-fish-
Footballguy
Name every time in the history of the US that we instituted price controls on drugs or nationalized a pharmaceutical manufacturer. Should be easy. Then tell me what country in the world has the highest drug prices. Should also be easy.
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Insoxicated
Just having some fun GB. Wasn't directed at you.
More of a reference to the people arguing that they are ineffective at lowering your odds of contracting the virus when around people who are infected.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Yes, she made that point as well. Social distancing, constant hand washing, and not touching mouth, nose, or eyes is much more effective than wearing a mask that you're likely not trained well on putting on, taking off, or keeping in place.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Your assertion that cardiologists advocated diets contributing to the obesity epidemic and its comorbidities is hyperbole. I mentioned two diets commonly prescribed by cardiologists, neither of which advocates flour, simple sugars or starches. The existence of unhealthy heavily processed, low-fat foods does nothing to change that, despite people erroneously conflating those foods with low-fat diets.Mr. Ham said:
While I'm sure your pop diet books have some good advice, I prefer to read scientifically validated nutrition research. The diets with the best scientific backing are plant-based, relatively high in carbohydrates and lower in fats - generally 30% of caloric intake or less. Like the AHA and just about every medical organization recommends.
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
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Insoxicated
Again, including healthcare in that pool is fla\/\/ed unless Z's wife is hitting Home Depot for her gear.
Regarding these "customer facing employees"… Providing PPE against hazardous working conditions is the responsibility of the employer.
If McDonald's wants to make money during an epidemic, pay the toll of protecting your employees... otherwise I'll be rooting for a class action by all affected employees.
In any event, I have zero motivation to reduce my ability to protect my family in order to help someone who procrastinated or didn't prepare. Sorry. Not sorry.
Now #######s clearing the shelves to sell them at $25ea on EBay are **** bags.
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Capella
Footballguy
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Have we ever had a president that would pay any price - no matter its cost - to make sure the stock market didn't stay in the tank? Should be easy.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Just got back from Costco, for routine shopping. At least 75% of shoppers had TP, lysol wipes, water or some combination of those in their carts. Granted, there are a lot more Asians here than most places, but it's clear people are concerned.
I bought avocados, almond milk, eggs and spaghetti sauce.
I bought avocados, almond milk, eggs and spaghetti sauce.
-fish-
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
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Insoxicated
That's a pretty delicious haulJust got back from Costco, for routine shopping. At least 75% of shoppers had TP, lysol wipes, water or some combination of those in their carts. Granted, there are a lot more Asians here than most places, but it's clear people are concerned.
I bought avocados, almond milk, eggs and spaghetti sauce.
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Footballguy
I will bet you $1,000 that: (1) we do not nationalize any pharmaceutical company between now and the inauguration of whoever is elected in 2020, and (2) no antiviral drug or vaccine for Covid-19 will be provided to all citizens of the United States for free.
There may be some programs for the indigent, but whoever gets a vaccine to market first is going to make a huge profit, as will their shareholders.
-fish-
Footballguy
We may disagree on the severity of this virus, but Blanton's is freaking great. 3 more days of sober February. I'm gonna go get a bottle for the tournament.
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Footballguy
Scoresman
Footballguy
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I think masks short of N95 are mostly window dressing for unaffected individuals. Good cough and hand hygiene are far more important. And it's a little tricky to assume something is better than nothing, as handling the mask/surrogate properly is important too.[icon] said:
FWIW, I wear masks at work, but not in public. I'm not stockpiling them either.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I’m sorry you feel like you’re being bullied
That seemed silly , but harmless
imo of course
WDIK2
Footballguy
Stopped by a Menards on the way home. No masks unless you want an industrial quality respirator which I already have. Maybe I'll snag some extra filters for my respirator from work. Wearing that around out in public will get some looks.
I stopped out of curiosity mostly, but would have picked some up if available.
I stopped out of curiosity mostly, but would have picked some up if available.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I feel strangely ok with trump handling this, I feel like this is his wheelhouse of team building and delegation, but I could do without him calling Pelosi "incompetent" in this spot, rise above politics for once.
-fish-
Footballguy
Thinking about this more, this is probably the one thing he probably should have given to Ben Carson. At least that guy's a doctor.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Healthcare providers are working intimately with sick people - with commensurate risk for exposure to infectious bodily fluids/secretions. In most everyday interactions, this isn't the case.[icon] said:
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Footballguy
What about in a circumstance where you're around a lot of people in general...airports, subways, etc. There's really nothing magic about being a health care provider that makes wearing a mask a good idea...it's the fact of being around people who may be transmitting infection.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Ha ha, public transportation is for suckers.
