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I am a hand sanitizing freak normally, but definitely dont have extra focus inside my house now that pretty much nobody is coming and going.
Can you post a couple clips? I've heard walking/biking outside is safe if you keep your distance, so if that's not right I'd like the details.
Same with us, I was a pretty regular Wendy's stop during the week. Haven't had it in 2 weeks now and I'm jonesing hard for a double. College kid went to Taco Bell yesterday.
Same, haven't left the house in a week. Still wash up quite a bit but when this dies down will need to step up my game.
Was food packaging (both take-out and groceries) EVER much of a virus vector?
60 people being inside a room (even a large one) singing and projecting seems way more problematic than walking through an outdoors area that an infected person may have coughed in 5 minutes earlier.
That seems like exactly the thing we are told to avoid right now. Close quarters with lots of people. Understood that it says that "no one was coughing or sneezing" but they were all in close proximity. But singing for an hour is literally projecting your droplets and particles into close quarters with people.
The linked story and your question are 2 completely separate issues. Yes, you can safely walk.
Since they think this mainly spreads by droplets, walks are safe IF you are following the 6-foot (or more) rule. That allows time for the droplets to be pulled out of the air by gravity. Unlike aerosol transmission where they are suspended in the air for longer periods of time, more akin to something like fog.
Sometimes, people who work(ed) in food service like to get attention from "laymen" by saying "That happens ALL the time! Like 10 times per shift! And I worked in a restaurant -- I should KNOW !!!11!!ONE!!"
Automatically? No.
That is what we have been doing. Wipe the boxes down, wash hands well, then go for it. Picked up some steak on Saturday.
This is the part I was referring to:
Unfortunately this is a case of doing exactly the opposite of the guidelines and even basic common sense. A gathering of nearly 100 people in a church singing together. Walking outside is not even in the same ballpark as what happened here, sadly.
I know. It was the part in the article where it lingers in the air I was focused on. Should have been more clear.
I'm not a scientist so this is mainly just me talking out of my ###, but let's say for the sake of argument that this virus actually is spread by aerosols. Is spreading covid this way even possible outdoors? It seems like even a light breeze would be way more than enough to dissipate things.
If the stuff about it not being transmitted through eating is accurate, then the issue should be more you inhaling her breath than transfer through saliva. That said, I have no idea.
I understand. But they are in a confined space partaking in an activity that is going to spread those particles pretty easily. Outside, going for a walk, you're not going to be in continued close proximity to someone that is actively sending these particles in the air unless you are running behind someone that keeps coughing and spitting into the air, for example.
That's what I was thinking too. Particles dissipate completely different outdoors than indoors.
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No because I have Seniors that want to stop and talk to me along the way and I've had to stop several of them from reaching to shake my hand. I'm with you that walks would seem very low. I don't think a few people walking along the beaches spread out will spread anything but the problem is people cannot control themselves.
Because if someone has the illness and coughs or sneezes or anything else to project the particles into the air, you have the potential to walk through that "cloud" before it falls to the ground. It's the whole idea behind staying 6 ft apart.
Hand santizer next to my laptop at all times and partaken of regularly -- old habit.
I've always had a hard time beating the common cold (< a week for most people, 2-4 weeks for me) so I guess I developed different hand hygiene habits from others. And I certainly kept up with hand hygiene working in food service (dirty dishes, grime around ice machines and bars, etc., etc. ... gross as frack).
I seriously doubt it, but pretty soon you'll likely be able to find out whenever the testing is available.
because if you walk right next to someone and they all of a sudden cough in your face, you could still get it?
Two things:
Im pretty sure I could get tested as I work for the govt, and am still working... so shouldnt be an issue.
im really not keeping up on the news, so no idea what tests are being done now
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I believe that soon there will be antibody tests that will show whether you've had it or not in the past. I really don't think you did. If so, the timelines are all screwed up.
I know that in the March 17 study this article cites, they sprayed some virus**-laced aerosol into a big fast-rotating metal drum. Then they stopped the drum and took an air sample after 30 minutes to see if they could detect any virus. Surprise -- they did! That's the most compelling evidence anyone has found of aerosol transmission to date.
yep. again this is based on ongoing theories (in the medical community) of europe who are starting to wonder if it arrived much earlier than believed.
We dont have proof of any surfaces being the cause yet. Thats not even really something you could prove this early anyway.
