parasaurolophus
Footballguy
On a side note I would like to point out that that CDC link mentions ventilation systems twice and somebody gave me a tin foil hat when I brought up the ventilation at Biogen.
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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (14 Viewers)
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
Osaurus
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
20+ years and counting.....though not exactly introverted....I just don't like people that much any more.
Statorama
gangster
Nice. Kind of the same story here. Confirmed my wife and I are a good pandemic pair. Got the work system setup so it's even better than being in the office and they'll give me as much work as I can take on for the foreseeable future. Made french bread from scratch...a little "doughier" than I like it, but not bad for the first time. I'm ready to follow shelter in place as long as they need me to.
nirad3
Footballguy
Talked to my wife about this a few days ago. She's a total introvert, totally cool with chillin' at the house... taking long baths... having a cocktail... reading... watching Netflix...
Not me.
I need to be out and about. I can't tell you how much I miss sitting on a barstool, watching football or basketball or hell even baseball... cold beer in front of me. A few people around to chat it up with.
Definitely miss being able to hang out with my parents, and having them around our kids.
So yeah, this sucks. I've about had enough of it. No sports, no in-person interaction. I love my family to death but I am going crazy.
Not me.
I need to be out and about. I can't tell you how much I miss sitting on a barstool, watching football or basketball or hell even baseball... cold beer in front of me. A few people around to chat it up with.
Definitely miss being able to hang out with my parents, and having them around our kids.
So yeah, this sucks. I've about had enough of it. No sports, no in-person interaction. I love my family to death but I am going crazy.
Doug B
Footballguy
Keep in mind that the CDC page linked gave advice geared to households -- the part about 'ventilation' is specific to the room housing a known COVID-19 patient:
IMHO, they're doing something of an 'abundance of caution' thing when they get into 'infectious air' and such. I didn't think the evidence for air remaining infectious due to floating microscopic aerosol droplets was all that compelling -- but maybe that's my own tin foil hat showing.
Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
Similar story here. My wife and I run a business that went from 75% at home to now 95% at home so it hasn't been much of an adjustment at all. What really has been great though is all the extra time I've had with my 1 year old daughter. Instead of dad being just feet away but glued to a computer, I get to chase her around the house and make her laugh all throughout the day and night.
I could quarantine like this for an indefinite period. An all time record month of March means the pocketbook is healthier than ever. My personal situation doesn't mean I enjoy watching people's lives shattered over misguided blanket solutions though. That's for those who might wonder why I'm so anti-shut down.
-fish-
Footballguy
I don't think Drizly does same day delivery. At least they don't do it anywhere around here.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Maybe they couldn't leave until all the eggs were found.“It took our officers about two hours to end the party,” Wood said.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
A steady day at covid worldometers. Total cases hanging just under 70,000 (back at the level of a week ago or so); deaths of about 5,300 a little below yesterday's figure. India doesn't show the big jump @Tolstoy mentioned, for whatever reason. Russia new cases still climbing quickly (~15%); Peru very quickly (~33%) ...both with more new cases than Germany (and they're approaching Spain and Italy). India does show growth over 10% while Bangladesh still rapidly increasing at around 25%. As a region, the middle east (Saudi Arabia, et al) have been having growth in new cases of about 10-20%. So shifting worldwide dynamics, but overall trend is holding at linear levels.
Redwes25
Footballguy
I have seen Sunday/Monday numbers are generally lower than rest of week since they involve reporting for prior day (the weekend). I would suspect world numbers go up a bit tomorrow. Hope I am wrong though and numbers can trend down to 70k.
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SFBayDuck
Footballguy
soothsayer
Footballguy
This has been my experience in the SW metro of the Twin Cities as well. Most poeple do try to keep some distance from each other but approx. 25% observe no distancing at all....either oblivious or flubros. I'm actually shocked that at grocery stores the employees are not all wearing masks. I know that at one local chain grocer, they are "allowing" their employees to wear a mask but not requiring it for fear of "scaring" customers. Ludicrous.
cosjobs
Footballguy
I've found several local liquor stores willing to do curbside. I tell them to put it in the back of the truck where the payment is awaiting.
eta- much cheaper than using third party services and their high fees and markups.
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SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Similar story here. My girl is an introvert, and as long as she has chardonnay, some candy crush-type game, and plenty of things on the DVR/Netflix queue she's good indefinitely.
Me - I run errands sometimes just to get out of the house for a bit. Now, it's just walking the dog a couple of times a day and a somewhat stressful trip to the store every two weeks. Hell I sat out in my driveway last Friday evening with my dog and a cocktail, just hoping some people would walk by I could say hi to.
cosjobs
Footballguy
cosjobs
Footballguy
If you don't have a steam injected oven to get the perfect crust, I've had luck using a spray bottle filled with water during cooking. Open the door, pretend its a misbehaving cat and wet it down a couple times during the cook.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Florida new cases and deaths by day - COVID19 in-patients at Jackson Health in Miami
4/3 - 1260 , 26 - 94
4/4 - 1277, 25 - 111
4/5- 805, 26 - 125
4/6 - 1279, 33 - 125
4/7 - 1118, 42 - 140
4/8 - 951, 27 - 136
4/9 - 1128, 48 - 148
4/10 - 1142, 48 - 149
4/11 - 1018, 27 - 163
4/12 - 969, 15 - 161
4/13 - 1124, 38
More of the plateau
4/3 - 1260 , 26 - 94
4/4 - 1277, 25 - 111
4/5- 805, 26 - 125
4/6 - 1279, 33 - 125
4/7 - 1118, 42 - 140
4/8 - 951, 27 - 136
4/9 - 1128, 48 - 148
4/10 - 1142, 48 - 149
4/11 - 1018, 27 - 163
4/12 - 969, 15 - 161
4/13 - 1124, 38
More of the plateau
Capella
Footballguy
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
another early study not encouraging for hydroxycholorquine as treatment :(
https://www.newser.com/story/289474/troubling-signs-in-2-drugs-touted-by-trump-for-virus.html (note: the title mentions Trump but the article isn't political in nature, other than saying it's the drugs that he had touted.. notenote: the original study is in French but you can translate to English and it reads easily enough)
https://www.newser.com/story/289474/troubling-signs-in-2-drugs-touted-by-trump-for-virus.html (note: the title mentions Trump but the article isn't political in nature, other than saying it's the drugs that he had touted.. notenote: the original study is in French but you can translate to English and it reads easily enough)
bentley
Footballguy
mr roboto
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Now that WFH feels a little more routine, I think I could do this for a very long time. Netflix, Amazon, and YouTube are all great. I'm getting concerned about video game delays, but I like replaying old games so I'm fine there. And I've wanted to do some more reading for a while now.Andy Dufresne said:
I can see where this is going to drive people literally crazy though. My dad is handling this situation extremely poorly -- he and I are the opposite in the sense that he can't sit still and just relax, and he is getting very antsy about when things will open up again. More generally, this has to be hell on extroverts. I imagine a hypothetical pandemic that required people to live with a group of 20 strangers for an extended period of time in close quarters, and I would be willing to take my chances with the virus by the end of week one.
cosjobs
Footballguy
JShare87
Footballguy
I understand the thought behind this but why even bother? If a certain percentage of people are asymptotic, why bother? A temperature doesn’t mean Corona. A perfectly fine temp doesn’t mean they’re not infected.
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
People who drive slower than me are stupid, and people who drive faster than me are crazy.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
To clarify:Mr Anonymous said:
The most commonly used tests for COVID 19 have a false negative rate around 30%.
IF you have signs and symptoms compatible with COVID 19, and no alternative diagnosis seems likely, you will be isolated and treated like COVID 19. A second test will be sent as well.
IF your second test is negative and an alternative diagnosis remains unlikely, a third COVID test may be sent - math tells us the likelihood of two false negatives is still 9%. But more often than not, clinicians will be satisfied that two negative tests rules it out.
I am personally aware of a patient who had three negative tests before the fourth was positive. At that point, one has to wonder about the quality of the first three tests, and consider the possibility the fourth was a false positive.
Phylogenetic analysis of viral strains, testing done in WA and the absence of a spike in severe pneumonia/ARDS cases earlier this year strongly argue against the virus being in the US much earlier than Jan.
People under investigation for COVID 19 are treated as positive for the purpose of infection control, but TMK only lab documented cases get tallied in the actual case numbers.
Sand
Footballguy
Between this, the reports of reinfections (or reactivations) in Korea, and the stories of researchers never succeeding at developing a SARS vaccine (the closest analog to COVID) the news just doesn't seem to be good at all on the medical front.
Any good stories out there besides bending the curve? That one is just a delaying tactic in this fight - we either need a killer therapeutic or a vaccine to get us to herd immunity. I'm discounting the "getting to herd immunity the natural way" - that would be painful on civilization.
shader
Footballguy
Cant remember if I posted this or not, but I noticed an uptick a week or so ago in traffic. Now granted, I rarely leave the house so this is 100% anecdotal.
I live in Tennessee and our daily increase numbers have been slowly dropping. Today we went back over 300 a day for the first time in awhile. Hopefully just a Monday bump, but I’ll be paying close attention tomorrow.
There seems to be this idea that the second wave comes in the fall. But really it come could a week or two after the lockdowns end.
I live in Tennessee and our daily increase numbers have been slowly dropping. Today we went back over 300 a day for the first time in awhile. Hopefully just a Monday bump, but I’ll be paying close attention tomorrow.
There seems to be this idea that the second wave comes in the fall. But really it come could a week or two after the lockdowns end.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
I hear you, and at some level it does seem a bit like security theater or CYA. But on the other hand, I think it does send the message that anyone who's not feeling right shouldn't chance going to work, and also wouldn't presumably people who are more symptomatic be shedding higher quantities of virus? So there's a chance it does help a little bit at least.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
With hospitals losing $ from elective procedures, good luck with that.fruity pebbles said:
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Slight increase in the numbers at Jackson hospital. Could be a plateau.
Camilla Cabello and Shawn Mendes sent a bunch of Cuban sandwiches to Jackson Hospital.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JHF_Jackson/status/1249752088147566592
trader jake
Footballguy
Part of the reason why: https://m.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2020/03/27/video-shows-cell-phones-on-florida-beach-during-spring-break-and-where-theyve-travelled-during-coronavirus-outbreak
That's not a great solution then. Way too unreliable at those numbers.
This is a major problem right now.
When? Not disagreeing, just looking at the current numbers and it's not looking great right now. Nurses being furloughed, departments facing tough cuts, etc. Thankfully not every hospital is overrun with COVID19 patients, but even those with quite a few are facing major financial strains at the moment (like most other businesses).
bentley
Footballguy
Don’t know. Someone sent me a bottle of Tito’s as a gift. They commented on how fast it arrived, which is why I knew the timing.
shader
Footballguy
Non-China Reported Cases
2/7 - 277 reported cases
2/12 - 490 reported cases
2/17 - 893 reported cases - 5 dead
2/22 - 1,834 reported cases - 19 dead
2/26 - 3,650 reported cases - 57 dead
2/29 - 7,155 reported cases - 109 dead - USA 68 cases - 1 dead
3/5 - 17,353 reported cases - 344 dead - USA 210 cases - 12 dead
3/9 - 33,303 reported cases - 881 dead - USA 628 cases - 26 dead
3/13 - 64,567 reported cases - 2,239 dead - USA 2,269 cases - 48 dead
3/18 - 138,059 reported cases - 5,715 dead - USA 9,301 cases - 152 dead
3/22 - 255,584 reported cases - 11,350 dead - USA 33,346 cases - 414 dead
3/27 - 514,956 reported cases - 24,048 dead - USA 104,126 cases - 1,695 dead
4/2 - 932,707 reported cases - 49,664 dead - USA 244,320 cases - 5,897 dead
4/6 - 1,264,826 reported cases - 71,366 dead - USA 367,004 cases - 10,871 dead
4/9 - 1,521,741 reported cases - 92,380 dead - USA 468,566 cases - 16,691 dead - Active USA cases 425,947
4/10 - 1,615,613 reported cases - 99,349 dead - USA 502,036 cases - 18,717 dead - Active USA cases 456,080
4/11 - 1,698,260 reported cases - 105,487 dead - USA 532,879 cases - 20,577 dead - Active USA cases 481,849
4/12 - 1,770,995 reported cases - 110,906 dead - USA 560,433 cases - 22,115 dead - Active USA cases 505,684
4/13 - 1,841,688 reported cases - 116,277 dead - USA 586,941 cases - 23,640 dead - Active USA cases 526,353
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-J_vry7rclLIGooJ-Cu7OFH8rRRjB51lz1iGkwcTETc/edit#gid=0
Column I in Ned's sheet is not an enjoyable column to track...
2/7 - 277 reported cases
2/12 - 490 reported cases
2/17 - 893 reported cases - 5 dead
2/22 - 1,834 reported cases - 19 dead
2/26 - 3,650 reported cases - 57 dead
2/29 - 7,155 reported cases - 109 dead - USA 68 cases - 1 dead
3/5 - 17,353 reported cases - 344 dead - USA 210 cases - 12 dead
3/9 - 33,303 reported cases - 881 dead - USA 628 cases - 26 dead
3/13 - 64,567 reported cases - 2,239 dead - USA 2,269 cases - 48 dead
3/18 - 138,059 reported cases - 5,715 dead - USA 9,301 cases - 152 dead
3/22 - 255,584 reported cases - 11,350 dead - USA 33,346 cases - 414 dead
3/27 - 514,956 reported cases - 24,048 dead - USA 104,126 cases - 1,695 dead
4/2 - 932,707 reported cases - 49,664 dead - USA 244,320 cases - 5,897 dead
4/6 - 1,264,826 reported cases - 71,366 dead - USA 367,004 cases - 10,871 dead
4/9 - 1,521,741 reported cases - 92,380 dead - USA 468,566 cases - 16,691 dead - Active USA cases 425,947
4/10 - 1,615,613 reported cases - 99,349 dead - USA 502,036 cases - 18,717 dead - Active USA cases 456,080
4/11 - 1,698,260 reported cases - 105,487 dead - USA 532,879 cases - 20,577 dead - Active USA cases 481,849
4/12 - 1,770,995 reported cases - 110,906 dead - USA 560,433 cases - 22,115 dead - Active USA cases 505,684
4/13 - 1,841,688 reported cases - 116,277 dead - USA 586,941 cases - 23,640 dead - Active USA cases 526,353
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-J_vry7rclLIGooJ-Cu7OFH8rRRjB51lz1iGkwcTETc/edit#gid=0
Column I in Ned's sheet is not an enjoyable column to track...
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Quint
Footballguy
Sonoma County just issued a "mandatory mask" policy starting April 17.
exceptions are:
- outdoor exercise (unless you cannot maintain a 6' distance from people around you)
- children under the age of 2
- anyone who is unable to remove a mask without assistance
- anyone who has trouble breathing or is unconscious
- driving in a car with windows rolled up
- at home
masks defined as:
- facial coverings means any fabric or cloth that covers the mouth and nose. the facial covering can be made using household items (including scarves, bandanas, t-shirts, sweatshirts, towels, turtlenecks, or other fabric), can be sewn by hand, or factory-made.
- persons may wear N-95 respirators and surgical masks if they have them already, and are asked to not to purchase these items so they may be available to healthcare workers and other medical first responders coming into contact with infected persons.
persons found in violation of this order may be subject to fine, imprisonment, or both.
exceptions are:
- outdoor exercise (unless you cannot maintain a 6' distance from people around you)
- children under the age of 2
- anyone who is unable to remove a mask without assistance
- anyone who has trouble breathing or is unconscious
- driving in a car with windows rolled up
- at home
masks defined as:
- facial coverings means any fabric or cloth that covers the mouth and nose. the facial covering can be made using household items (including scarves, bandanas, t-shirts, sweatshirts, towels, turtlenecks, or other fabric), can be sewn by hand, or factory-made.
- persons may wear N-95 respirators and surgical masks if they have them already, and are asked to not to purchase these items so they may be available to healthcare workers and other medical first responders coming into contact with infected persons.
persons found in violation of this order may be subject to fine, imprisonment, or both.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Probably depends on how WFH-friendly your work is.ConstruxBoy said:
My team hasn't missed a beat despite having less than 24 hours notice our office was closing. Bet we move to it like 2 days a week after this ends.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Quint
Footballguy
Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
More of this, less blanket shut down. Progress.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Knowing Newsom it will be part of the relaxing plan. I'm glad he's our governor. Can't wait to hear his plans for the state tomorrow at noon. Tune in to KPIX, CBS. They always air his pressers.
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Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
Curious, when you refer to the bolded, is it supposed to be an outline for how CA's shut down ends?
