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OK that would make more senseI'm guessing he knows the person had tested positive
OK that would make more senseI'm guessing he knows the person had tested positive
No, I share a poorly ventilated office with a confirmed positive, including an area where people eat. Although I wear a mask the vast majority of the time and practice social distancing, I work in a healthcare setting with direct patient care responsibilities. And my mother-in-law, for whom my wife acts as a caregiver, just started chemotherapy for pancreatic cancer.Wait, you got tested because you were near a random person not wearing a mask?
Unclear, but current guidelines don’t mandate retesting unless I develop symptoms.Gotcha. I'm surprised that a single test is considered sufficient. What if you were one of those folks who doesn't develop symptoms until, say, Day 9 post-exposure. If you were tested on Day 3, what are the chances that you may not have developed a significant viral burden yet?
Confirmed positive makes sense. Not sure why you are bringing up professional athletes though. Sorry to hear about your MIL.No, I share a poorly ventilated office with a confirmed positive, including an area where people eat. Although I wear a mask the vast majority of the time and practice social distancing, I work in a healthcare setting with direct patient care responsibilities. And my mother-in-law, for whom my wife acts as a caregiver, just started chemotherapy for pancreatic cancer.
While not as critical as professional athletes, I hope you can understand why testing me after an exposure makes sense.
To point out that the testing bar is set differently for different people.Confirmed positive makes sense. Not sure why you are bringing up professional athletes though. Sorry to hear about your MIL.
The truth is somewhere in between with a slight tilt toward bad management.https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/18/asia/wuhan-water-park-party-intl-hnk/index.html
Either the USA is really bad at managing this or maybe there is hope.
I don't understand why the target keeps moving. Nothing has changed with our situation since the kids went on summer break. Over the last three months, schools developed their back to school plans only to stuff like this dropped on them a week before they go back. I'm sure this will affect some parents decisions, both positively and negatively, on whether to send their children back in person leaving schools scrambling once again.Masks now mandatory for students all day except eating or drinking statewide in Pa
Ours a few weeks ago gave the students the choice of on campus or all online. Then last week changed it to 2 days a week in class and the rest online.I don't understand why the target keeps moving. Nothing has changed with our situation since the kids went on summer break. Over the last three months, schools developed their back to school plans only to stuff like this dropped on them a week before they go back. I'm sure this will affect some parents decisions, both positively and negatively, on whether to send their children back in person leaving schools scrambling once again.
I have been told by teachers and their spouses that this is just your failure.Ours a few weeks ago gave the students the choice of on campus or all online. Then last week changed it to 2 days a week in class and the rest online.
The thought of sitting through six hours of online courses per day sounds about as nice as an icepick in the eye. No way my kid will be able to hang with that on a day to day basis.
I don’t get it either. What a messI don't understand why the target keeps moving. Nothing has changed with our situation since the kids went on summer break. Over the last three months, schools developed their back to school plans only to stuff like this dropped on them a week before they go back. I'm sure this will affect some parents decisions, both positively and negatively, on whether to send their children back in person leaving schools scrambling once again.
Without trying to get political....there has been pressure to open schools no matter what, or face funding cuts, then teachers and teacher unions faught to not go back for fear of teacher safety, so there is pressure of all sides, it's a no win for schools imoI don't understand why the target keeps moving. Nothing has changed with our situation since the kids went on summer break. Over the last three months, schools developed their back to school plans only to stuff like this dropped on them a week before they go back. I'm sure this will affect some parents decisions, both positively and negatively, on whether to send their children back in person leaving schools scrambling once again.
And of course there is pressure because it is the best way for most kids to learn.Without trying to get political....there has been pressure to open schools no matter what, or face funding cuts, then teachers and teacher unions faught to not go back for fear of teacher safety, so there is pressure of all sides, it's a no win for schools imo
Oh, hell, I am an engineer and do webex crap all the time. A 6 hour Webex is just brutal.I have been told by teachers and their spouses that this is just your failure.
Simple...politics.I don't understand why the target keeps moving. Nothing has changed with our situation since the kids went on summer break. Over the last three months, schools developed their back to school plans only to stuff like this dropped on them a week before they go back. I'm sure this will affect some parents decisions, both positively and negatively, on whether to send their children back in person leaving schools scrambling once again.
They’re not super helpful IMO, but some experts have advocated them:#1. Face shields are useless*.
#2. Why do they say "face shield" across the forehead?
*in places like grocery stores where i see them.
Face shields offer a number of advantages. While medical masks have limited durability and little potential for reprocessing, face shields can be reused indefinitely and are easily cleaned with soap and water, or common household disinfectants. They are comfortable to wear, protect the portals of viral entry, and reduce the potential for autoinoculation by preventing the wearer from touching their face. People wearing medical masks often have to remove them to communicate with others around them; this is not necessary with face shields. The use of a face shield is also a reminder to maintain social distancing, but allows visibility of facial expressions and lip movements for speech perception.
Most important, face shields appear to significantly reduce the amount of inhalation exposure to influenza virus, another droplet-spread respiratory virus. In a simulation study, face shields were shown to reduce immediate viral exposure by 96% when worn by a simulated health care worker within 18 inches of a cough.10 Even after 30 minutes, the protective effect exceeded 80% and face shields blocked 68% of small particle aerosols,10 which are not thought to be a dominant mode of transmission of SARS-CoV-2. When the study was repeated at the currently recommended physical distancing distance of 6 feet, face shields reduced inhaled virus by 92%,10 similar to distancing alone, which reinforces the importance of physical distancing in preventing viral respiratory infections. Of note, no studies have evaluated the effects or potential benefits of face shields on source control, ie, containing a sneeze or cough, when worn by asymptomatic or symptomatic infected persons. However, with efficacy ranges of 68% to 96% for a single face shield, it is likely that adding source control would only improve efficacy, and studies should be completed quickly to evaluate this.
Major policy recommendations should be evaluated using clinical studies. However, it is unlikely that a randomized trial of face shields could be completed in time to verify efficacy. No clinical trial has been conducted to assess the efficacy of widespread testing and contact tracing, but that approach is based on years of experience. Taken as a bundle, the effectiveness of adding face shields as a community intervention to the currently proposed containment strategies should be evaluated using existing mathematical models. The implicit goal of face shields alone or in combination with other interventions should be to interrupt transmission by reducing the R0 to less than 1.
Just so we're all clear, you know that's not real, right? People don't actually have to wear the cone of shame. Saw this going around Facebook yesterday and was shocked by the number of people who thought that was an actual photo.I enjoy this innovation.
If you wear a mask you don't have to wear the cone.Just so we're all clear, you know that's not real, right? People don't actually have to wear the cone of shame. Saw this going around Facebook yesterday and was shocked by the number of people who thought that was an actual photo.
Most of the updates are just a few additions or clarifications to previously released checklists.
For example, front-of-house staff in restaurants who choose to wear face shields must now wear them upside down so that they are attached at the collar instead of the forehead, so that their breath is directed up, not down.
Right, those exist, e.g. https://aworkstation.com/zshield-flex-a-face-shield-designed-for-service-workers/. People aren't actually wearing dog cones.If you wear a mask you don't have to wear the cone.
However if you want to wear a face shield, you do have to wear one that attaches at collar. I thought it was completely made up at first, but googled just to be sure.Maine public radio story
Saw that she took a leaf blower and a dehumidifier. Master thief, here.Did she get away with Jack Links jerky, batteries, and cheap flashlights?
I prefer the other innovation. I mean what if she is talking to one person on the left and then doesnt turn her body to talk to somebody on the right? Better to go full 360 to be safe. Plus flipping it down to talk on the phone would just be like pouring out a pitcher of virus.Right, those exist, e.g. https://aworkstation.com/zshield-flex-a-face-shield-designed-for-service-workers/. People aren't actually wearing dog cones.
The picture on that tweet is Photoshopped. That woman's neck would be unnaturally long if that were a legit picture.Just so we're all clear, you know that's not real, right?I enjoy this innovation.
Hopefully he's doing well.Just found out my dad has the virus. He started feeling bad Saturday. Low grade fever and 'heavy' chest. Not too bad overall symptoms. He's fairly healthy overall for his age (66).
We were together at an outdoor funeral two weeks ago and while my wife and I wore a masks the whole time, my mom and dad did not. Mom has no symptoms at this time.
I saw him briefly for less than 5 minutes last Wednesday (outside but no masks, didn't know he was stopping by). Ugh.
I'm thinking about getting tested but only if I have symptoms. My mom's test came back negative. Mom seems to think Dad is already starting to feel better and he only started showing symptoms on Saturday.Hopefully he's doing well.
Not a doctor here, but if was a week ago and you were outside, you should be in the clear if you go a few more days with no symptoms. Unless you got a completely asymptomatic case, of course.
Have you considered getting tested yourself?
How would you know if you got it from him?Wife and I are at pulmonologist with her dad for his 6 month appt. Halfway here he tells us he thinks he had corona 2 weeks ago. All of his card playing friends had it. She just text from room and said he just said that his nephew that he lives with had it too. He is 77 with severe COPD. If he had it I cant believe he is alive. It's great that he waited to tell us halfway into the drive. Now we have to drive 30 minutes back with him. We have to take a covid test in 2 weeks for our vacation to St. Lucia. If he screws that up my wife will be done with him.
We have been taking a lot of precautions since this all started in March. If we get it in the next 2 weeks it would have been from him.matuski said:How would you know if you got it from him?
This is seemingly insane... because Gravity.parasaurolophus said:If you wear a mask you don't have to wear the cone.
However if you want to wear a face shield, you do have to wear one that attaches at collar. I thought it was completely made up at first, but googled just to be sure.Maine public radio story
Is it possible to have a 54 BMI? If I did, I’d be more worried about a heart attack than Corona.I tend to favor the risk models that are Age + BMI for admission criteria, and treatment plans.
Some of them are like
Age + BMI > 100 is high risk
or, more aggressively
Age/2 + BMIx2 > 100 is high risk
Seems realistic and easy. Things like this could guide schools/workplaces for keeping people home long term.
Yeah, I'm really hoping we've seen the worst of it. Of course, school starts here in Central Florida on Monday for most. My kids start the following week. I've read that only 30ish % of the people here in our county are doing "in person" so that's good. It's insane to require a full staff of teachers for 30%, but the school told us that's what was required. Don't know if that's true or not.The numbers continue to decline in South Florida, where the positivity rate is down to ~10% in Dade and ~7% in Broward. Hospitalizations and deaths also down.
If the trend continues, Broward and Dade could open up more in 1 to 2 months, including schools.
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/08/20/coronavirus-florida-passes-10000-resident-deaths-from-covid-19/
https://mobile.twitter.com/conarck/status/1296115359460794370
If anything, they'll need more teachers rather than less. I know a lot of my son's school's classes will have two teachers** per class in most, if not all classes.Yeah, I'm really hoping we've seen the worst of it. Of course, school starts here in Central Florida on Monday for most. My kids start the following week. I've read that only 30ish % of the people here in our county are doing "in person" so that's good. It's insane to require a full staff of teachers for 30%, but the school told us that's what was required. Don't know if that's true or not.
Agreed that more teachers and staff are needed, not less. It's counter-intuitive, but when working through the logistics it becomes apparent.If anything, they'll need more teachers rather than less. I know a lot of my son's school's classes will have two teachers** per class in most, if not all classes.
It's because all the in-person classes are also doubling as Zoom classes. There are a few ways the two-teachers-per-class set-up can work. One way is for one teacher to be kind of the Zoom-meeting administrator and handle the tech stuff (camera, laptop, answering online Zoom questions, etc) in class while the other teacher presents lessons to everyone (those in class and those at home). Another way is similar, except that the two teachers teach to the two segments (in-class and at-home) simultaneously and then switch off every so often.
** Well, sometimes it will probably be a teacher and a teacher's aide together. A state-certified teacher can be assisted by an uncertified teacher's aide.
On net we do...we have almost double with half of them working with 30% and the other half with 70%. It's madness.If anything, they'll need more teachers rather than less. I know a lot of my son's school's classes will have two teachers** per class in most, if not all classes.
It's because all the in-person classes are also doubling as Zoom classes. There are a few ways the two-teachers-per-class set-up can work. One way is for one teacher to be kind of the Zoom-meeting administrator and handle the tech stuff (camera, laptop, answering online Zoom questions, etc) in class while the other teacher presents lessons to everyone (those in class and those at home). Another way is similar, except that the two teachers teach to the two segments (in-class and at-home) simultaneously and then switch off every so often.
** Well, sometimes it will probably be a teacher and a teacher's aide together. A state-certified teacher can be assisted by an uncertified teacher's aide.
I forgot to update we finally got results 6 days after the test. Negative.Still waiting. Wife feeling worse. My son has gotten a bit better. Hopefully it’s just a run of the mill bug.
In previously accepted medical designation, that was known as super obese. BMI > 60 was super-super obese. But, that terminology was felt to be stigmatizing, so it is no longer used.Is it possible to have a 54 BMI? If I did, I’d be more worried about a heart attack than Corona.