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If you are on Facebook, check out Dear Pandemic. They had a good analysis. Basically the tl;dr is that vaccinations are designed with mutations in mind and a change in one location of the virus, even on the spike protein, is unlikely to alter the success of the vaccine. It would take a collective set of mutations over time to render the vaccine less effective.
The Philadelphia Inquirer ran a good laymen’s overview yesterday. Upshot is that the UK mutation is not all that much of a concern over other strains.
If you are being that cautious, why would you get together with 2 other families? I'm not as strict walking around in public and there's no way I would do that under any pre planned precautions.
Just one data point -- myself.
Much research still be done -- but preliminarily it does, in fact, look like partially correct keys (e.g. antibodies to older coronaviruses) do exist. One theory is that these close-enough antibodies are part of the puzzle that explains why some people don't contract COVID-19 when exposed or else end up asymptomatic if infected.
I'm confused. You breeched your own "strict quarantine" by taking the family for a walk even being 17 ft or whatever from other people.
Agree 100%. "More transmissible" will be translated as "worse" and "more serious" even if it really isn't. More specificity is needed and yes, information on how protocols should be adjusted.
France, Netherlands, Ireland, Belgium, Italy and Kuwait have all banned flights from UK while they get more info.
Do we know what this precisely means? A measurable and verifiable raw increase in R0? Something else?
>48 hours post and zero ill effects. I typically get 24-48 hours of a sore deltoid with the flu vaccine. Nothing so far with the Pfizer vaccine.
That's a good article. I would love to see something that digs a bit deeper and offers at least some hypothesized reasons that one strain of a virus transmits more easily than another. Maybe it's not yet known for sure, but I'd be interested even in educated speculation.
It was for this thread. It was a joke based on this.
Not meant for this thread?
Nah, that's b.s. I shouldn't be outcast from normal societal functions for choosing not to poison my body. The body heals itself, it's my choice how to treat my body and I shouldn't be fired from my job for that choice. This is complete absurdity.
Define reputable. There's so much out there if people looked outside of mainstream media.
If you think you have the "right" to infect everyone around you, especially in a workplace, then we have zero grounds for discussion. And I feel fairly confident you have no grasp of the concept of rights.
The Great Influenza gets into some of this stuff. I understand the concepts, but not the micro science on receptors, etc. Both the UK and South African strain seem less than in good to this layman (both seem to spread more easily and have worse symptoms). I’ve also read that the hypothesis is that these mutate in people who have symptoms for awhile with the plasma transfusions potentially creating better conditions in the body for mutating. It all seems plausible, but I also don’t want to freak out just yet either.Doug B said:
I am a healthy individual and Covid is a curable flu. Why is it assumed I'm infecting everyone? The absurdity and mind-numbing obedience resulting from this virus is alarming. I wonder how many military vets are gung-ho about getting this vaccine? I know this will not get the vaccine and I didn't volunteer my life for this country to see every ounce of freedom taken in a matter of months. There are tons of doctors and scientists saying things that conflict the mainstream narrative. That should concern folks. That should get people wanting to know the truth. Yet here we are. Anyone offering anything other than the official narrative is ostracized and ridiculed. It's OK to ask questions, especially when there are a large number of professionals saying something different than what our government and media are telling us. When that happens, it's even more important to listen.
This article clarifies some of your questions. The mutation occurs in the spike protein and is associated with slightly delayed, but larger outbreaks in younger (median 4-5 year difference) populations. The exact mechanism is unclear, but it is associated with higher viral burden in the nasopharynx of infected individuals. And they estimated R0:Doug B said:
Fortunately, it doesn’t cause more severe infection.
You have link to the tons of doctors and scientists saying that this is just a flu? I am interested as all of the doctors that I work with seem to agree that this is pretty bad.
Your chances of developing complications from the vaccine are significantly less than the chance that you get infected and it turns out to be way more than "a curable flu".
This is amazingly awful. Most of those "doctors" have virtually no credentials or aren't even physicians. They are all fringe practitioners that deny the pandemic even exists.
You realize when your employer was Uncle Sam you received several vaccines required by your employer who has your complete medical records.
Some of the politicians should be getting it but definitely not the healthy 30 year olds. Healthy 50 year olds are even highly questionable.
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1) Influenza =\= Coronavirus
It’s really just a once-in-a-blue-moon drive-by at this point.How is this stuff allowed in this thread? It wouldn't even be allowed in the PSF thread
On the bright side, the divide in this county should be mended soon. Either the vaccine is going to poison all the team xxxxx voters or covid will take out most of the team xxxxx voters.How is this stuff allowed in this thread? It wouldn't even be allowed in the PSF thread
