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If Alien DNA is what real doctors use then we're all doomed.

I know he's trolling but in your giant reply you seem to left out the fact your precious doctor posted the videos and "facts" about sex with demons on her own website and channel.  The media didn't make it up.  

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41 minutes ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

Thanks again @gianmarco for having a civil discussion with me. I care DEEPLY about this country.  I volunteered my life for it.  I am a father and husband. I do not deserve to be ostracized because I am choosing what I believe is right for MY body.  If you want to get the vaccine, please do but PLEASE let me decide for myself what is best for ME and MY family.  

 

I've seen this spouted by friends and family and others and it makes me just shake my head.  There are 3 universal rights in our constitution.... Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

People like you see that word liberty and latch onto it as the most important word in the whole document.  It's not.  Life is.  Life is absolute.  You either have it or don't.  Liberty is changeable.  If you lose liberties, you can fight to get them back.  You can't do that without life.  So I reject any notion that your liberty is more important than the lives of others. 

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48 minutes ago, belljr said:

Doors and windows are open. Debating wearing masks for my son's and his wife's visit.

Just the 5 of us for a quick visit but his wife's sister has been staying with them and shes been working wawa this whole time while going to school.  

Id still wear em 🤷🏽‍♂️

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I threw the pie away. I am hoping I don't see the neighbor for a few weeks. I am not a fan of lying, and even though I think this is an appropriate time to lie, I don't like it. 

I will tell her the truth that my wife is lactose intolerant and couldn't have any. My lie will be I ate some and it was delicious. 

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3 hours ago, prosopis said:

I know my neighbors somewhat. We help each other with home projects, watching each others homes, hang out for a beer around a fire every once in a while,say hi in the street etc....

I would not say any of us are super close.

So I hear a knock at the door and its my neighbors wife with a home made pie she made us for Christmas. She is unmasked and obviously pretty happy to be giving away pies. I did not know what to do. I did not want to open the second door to take the pie but I also didn't want to hurt anyones feelings. I ended up opening the second door and taking the pie at arms distance. I think I was sort of obvious that I did not want to be close to her without being to rude. In my mind I was kind of upset. WTF brings home made pies unmasked to their neighbors during a pandemic?

I feel like I have four days to not catch this before my vaccination and I was forced into risking my health for a pie.

I think she said it was a cream cheese pie and I am not sure what that is. I see its a graham cracker crust and a cherry topping. It weighs about 5 lbs!!!!

Do I serve it? Do I throw it out?

I have reservations about this pie which has been made worse by my recent viewing of Fargo.

* Several months ago her husband told me he thought all this was made up.

Can the pie be heated?  If so then after heating it should be fine.

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On 12/23/2020 at 7:49 AM, jvdesigns2002 said:

I'm not exaggerating anything. You are spreading misleading information.  There is no cure for covid.  When somebody points out smething that you say is wrong--that doesn't mean they are exaggerating. I've lost several family members to Covid--maybe read through the first 20 pages of this thread and you'll see that I was one of a handful of people here that were completely  right about covid.  I don't need to be told by you or anybody else about my thoughts of a disease. It's called having an opinion.  So far in regards to Covid--my opinion has been more accurate than yours will ever be.  

The misinformation about Covid on this forum after 9 months of this is pretty disheartening.

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42 minutes ago, prosopis said:

I threw the pie away. I am hoping I don't see the neighbor for a few weeks. I am not a fan of lying, and even though I think this is an appropriate time to lie, I don't like it. 

I will tell her the truth that my wife is lactose intolerant and couldn't have any. My lie will be I ate some and it was delicious. 

You gotta learn how to lie without lying.

"Oh that pie! Let me tell you, I don't think it lasted a day! Seriously GOT to have that recipe please. I can't tell you how good it was. No seriously, I cannot remember the last time I had a pie like that."

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2 hours ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

What do any of these doctors have to gain by going against the mainstream narrative and putting their names and reputations on the line? 

Money.  And whatever else they crave from the attention.

The fact you highlight this as a strong argument in your stance speaks volumes.  The answer to it is simple.  The very question you lean on is actual evidence to the contrary of your position.

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1 hour ago, NorvilleBarnes said:

You gotta learn how to lie without lying.

"Oh that pie! Let me tell you, I don't think it lasted a day! Seriously GOT to have that recipe please. I can't tell you how good it was. No seriously, I cannot remember the last time I had a pie like that."

It was amazing, the creaminess was spot on and the density was offset beautifully by the lighter crust. 

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2 minutes ago, Capella said:

@Terminalxylem in your opinion what is the outlook for mid to late summer ‘21 in this country if only say 50-60% of the pop takes the vaccine? Everything open as normal? Back to lockdowns? People with the vaccine doing what they want despite covid still being prevelant?

I'm not sure we can even hit that number even if everyone wants it by that time. Hopefully we can at least come close.

It's not an all or nothing proposition. Things will be significantly better if we can get to that point. I think our outlook for late summer is decent but still not fully controlled.

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1 minute ago, gianmarco said:

I'm not sure we can even hit that number even if everyone wants it by that time. Hopefully we can at least come close.

It's not an all or nothing proposition. Things will be significantly better if we can get to that point. I think our outlook for late summer is decent but still not fully controlled.

Well yea but for the purposes of my little thought bubble about wanting to resume life, let’s say anybody can get it but only 50-60% will this year. 

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1 hour ago, Rodrigo Duterte said:

Money.  And whatever else they crave from the attention.

The fact you highlight this as a strong argument in your stance speaks volumes.  The answer to it is simple.  The very question you lean on is actual evidence to the contrary of your position.

Money? Yeah that’s what they’re doing it for. You have to be kidding me. 
 

https://twitter.com/russellokung/status/1342135793465380864?s=21

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21 minutes ago, Capella said:

@Terminalxylem in your opinion what is the outlook for mid to late summer ‘21 in this country if only say 50-60% of the pop takes the vaccine? Everything open as normal? Back to lockdowns? People with the vaccine doing what they want despite covid still being prevelant?


My opinion is that the vaccinated will eventually get a card that will allow them to travel, vacation, go to sporting events etc. I feel rather strongly that my company will only allow us to travel for work again if we are vaccinated, and most of our customers will only allow us to visit onsite with vaccination proof.

If the vaccine works and half the country has it, the r0 will be quite low, though I doubt it will ever really go away.  But those low numbers will inevitably cause things to get back to some semblance of normality.

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7 minutes ago, shader said:

 


My opinion is that the vaccinated will eventually get a card that will allow them to travel, vacation, go to sporting events etc. I feel rather strongly that my company will only allow us to travel for work again if we are vaccinated, and most of our customers will only allow us to visit onsite with vaccination proof.

If the vaccine works and half the country has it, the r0 will be quite low, though I doubt it will ever really go away.  But those low numbers will inevitably cause things to get back to some semblance of normality.

Seems like a pretty good incentive to help get the anti-vaxxers on board.  On the other hand, we could barely get the country to stay at home and wear masks when in public without people flipping out about rights.  Can you imagine the outcry when we are essentially asking people to show their papers when they are out and about?  

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1 hour ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

I’m not saying my liberty is more important than life. Why put words in my mouth. You folks are just wrong. Life is important. Let me live mine and decide how to treat my body. How are y’all not getting this concept? You really expect everyone to blindly follow and obey those in power. F you. No. I will not be forced to poison my body. Move to Russia if you like being told how to live. 

Pro life or pro choice?

For or against capital punishment?

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9 hours ago, prosopis said:

I know my neighbors somewhat. We help each other with home projects, watching each others homes, hang out for a beer around a fire every once in a while,say hi in the street etc....

I would not say any of us are super close.

So I hear a knock at the door and its my neighbors wife with a home made pie she made us for Christmas. She is unmasked and obviously pretty happy to be giving away pies. I did not know what to do. I did not want to open the second door to take the pie but I also didn't want to hurt anyones feelings. I ended up opening the second door and taking the pie at arms distance. I think I was sort of obvious that I did not want to be close to her without being to rude. In my mind I was kind of upset. WTF brings home made pies unmasked to their neighbors during a pandemic?

I feel like I have four days to not catch this before my vaccination and I was forced into risking my health for a pie.

I think she said it was a cream cheese pie and I am not sure what that is. I see its a graham cracker crust and a cherry topping. It weighs about 5 lbs!!!!

Do I serve it? Do I throw it out?

I have reservations about this pie which has been made worse by my recent viewing of Fargo.

* Several months ago her husband told me he thought all this was made up.

The covid molecule itself is not very resilient.   If you are able to heat that pie at  135- 140 degrees for 15 minutes without it getting completely destroyed/melted--that would make it safe to eat.  To put it relatively speaking-135 degrees is probably less than the "warm" setting on your oven. 

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2 hours ago, Rhythmdoctor said:

I’m not saying my liberty is more important than life. Why put words in my mouth. You folks are just wrong. Life is important. Let me live mine and decide how to treat my body. How are y’all not getting this concept? You really expect everyone to blindly follow and obey those in power. F you. No. I will not be forced to poison my body. Move to Russia if you like being told how to live. 

You're not being forced to do anything. Just like an employer isn't being forced to keep you employed so you can potentially infect your co-workers. 

I'm assuming you denied taking all those "poisonous" vaccines prior to joining the military, right?

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2 hours ago, shader said:

 


My opinion is that the vaccinated will eventually get a card that will allow them to travel, vacation, go to sporting events etc. I feel rather strongly that my company will only allow us to travel for work again if we are vaccinated, and most of our customers will only allow us to visit onsite with vaccination proof.

If the vaccine works and half the country has it, the r0 will be quite low, though I doubt it will ever really go away.  But those low numbers will inevitably cause things to get back to some semblance of normality.

This is already in the works.   International travel will require proof of vaccination.  Concerts, sporting events, etc.  will be limited to people who can prove they have been vaccinated or have a negative test in hand.

Anti-mask and anti-vaxx individuals will be limited in their job choices and activities, and rightly so since they choose to have no regard for the safety of others.  They’ll be free to do whatever they want, just not around other people. 

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“The vaccine changes your DNA” I have heard people say this for a while so I thought I would add some clarity here. 
It doesn’t. It uses mRNA from the virus to stimulate a person’s immune system to produce antibodies to the virus.
Imagine cutting the virus into pieces and using those pieces to identify the virus and eliminate it.

Again, it does not alter your DNA.

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7 hours ago, encaitar said:

I've seen this spouted by friends and family and others and it makes me just shake my head.  There are 3 universal rights in our constitution.... Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

People like you see that word liberty and latch onto it as the most important word in the whole document.  It's not.  Life is.  Life is absolute.  You either have it or don't.  Liberty is changeable.  If you lose liberties, you can fight to get them back.  You can't do that without life.  So I reject any notion that your liberty is more important than the lives of others. 

He's fighting now to KEEP his liberties instead of fighting to get them back later.  You go take the vaccine if you want and he, along with millions of others will choose not to take the vaccine.  I'll respect your right to take the vaccine just as I'll expect you to respect my right not to take the vaccine until/if I choose.  If this vaccine is effective he's not putting anyone at risk who doesn't choose to be put at risk because those who take it are not going to catch Covid it anyways...right?

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8 minutes ago, VT700GUY said:

He's fighting now to KEEP his liberties instead of fighting to get them back later.  You go take the vaccine if you want and he, along with millions of others will choose not to take the vaccine.  I'll respect your right to take the vaccine just as I'll expect you to respect my right not to take the vaccine until/if I choose.  If this vaccine is effective he's not putting anyone at risk who doesn't choose to be put at risk because those who take it are not going to catch Covid it anyways...right?

Well, except for the kids who can’t take the vax. 

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44 minutes ago, Cold Dead Hands said:

“The vaccine changes your DNA” I have heard people say this for a while so I thought I would add some clarity here. 
It doesn’t. It uses mRNA from the virus to stimulate a person’s immune system to produce antibodies to the vaccine. 
Imagine cutting the virus into pieces and using those pieces to identify the virus and eliminate it.

Again, it does not alter your DNA.

I'm sure a different excuse not to take it will be drummed up when an adenovirus-based option becomes available.

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2 hours ago, VT700GUY said:

He's fighting now to KEEP his liberties instead of fighting to get them back later.  You go take the vaccine if you want and he, along with millions of others will choose not to take the vaccine.  I'll respect your right to take the vaccine just as I'll expect you to respect my right not to take the vaccine until/if I choose.  If this vaccine is effective he's not putting anyone at risk who doesn't choose to be put at risk because those who take it are not going to catch Covid it anyways...right?

I do not respect the choice to purposely keep this virus circulating by refusing a vaccine, especially refusal based on the conspiracy theories spread by discredited sources.

even if I’m vaccinated, my kid still won’t be able to go to school because of people making foolish and uninformed decisions and claiming it has something to do with protecting liberty.  My friend’s business will still stay shuttered, and he’ll go bankrupt.  Other friends will still be unemployed, and as a result may lose their homes.

It’s selfish and uninformed and it doesn’t deserve any ounce of respect.  I’d like to get some normalcy back, and I’d like small businesses to stay in business.  I don’t respect the people that are making that impossible.

liberty has limits when you’re harming and even killing other people.  

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2 hours ago, VT700GUY said:

He's fighting now to KEEP his liberties instead of fighting to get them back later.  You go take the vaccine if you want and he, along with millions of others will choose not to take the vaccine.  I'll respect your right to take the vaccine just as I'll expect you to respect my right not to take the vaccine until/if I choose.  If this vaccine is effective he's not putting anyone at risk who doesn't choose to be put at risk because those who take it are not going to catch Covid it anyways...right?

Sure except for the small fact he had no problem imposing on his liberty for other vaccines.....

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Hey guys how long until you got your senses back?

I got exposed exactly a week ago and lost my taste and smell on Tuesday. 

From what I hear this could potentially be permanent, which would be awful.

So far the loss of taste and smell have been the most significant symptoms. I’ve had some congestion, a little coughing and sneezing plus a slight sore throat. I’m in my late 20s and reasonably healthy. I don’t think this thing is gonna get any worse for me. But I realize people of all ages can die from it. 
 

I just really miss the taste of bacon, hash browns & eggs. 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Capella said:

@Terminalxylem in your opinion what is the outlook for mid to late summer ‘21 in this country if only say 50-60% of the pop takes the vaccine? Everything open as normal? Back to lockdowns? People with the vaccine doing what they want despite covid still being prevelant?

Not sure.

We’re not even 20 million confirmed cases yet, and only ~1 million have received their first vaccine dose. If the new variant of SARS-CoV-2 becomes the dominant strain, the basic reproduction number (Ro) is probably somewhere around 4-6. The herd immunity threshold estimate is 1 - 1/Ro = or 75-83% for that Ro range. The US population is 330 million, so we’ve got a long way to go until we reach 240-260 million naturally infected + immunized. Even if you assume we’re only picking up a fraction of the total infections, say 1/5 with the most generous estimates, we’re not even halfway there. And tons of people will forego vaccination.

I think vaccination + rapid home testing will allow some semblance of normalcy, but even late summer 2021 seems optimistic.

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Most of the distribution capacity is at the State and local levels, with private entities involved as well (pharmacies, hospitals, sores, etc.) To fully mobilize for mass vaccination distribution it would take a combination of National Guard, full Medical Reserve Corps, and full local agency mobilization.
 

For the Health Department that would mean suspension of many services to favor the vaccination effort. No clinics or WIC appointments for months. No restaurants, hotels, migrant labor camps, etc. inspected or permitted for months. No water wells or septic systems permitted or inspected for months. 
For just the Health Department to fully mobilize would mean that much of the construction industry would grind to a halt for months, much of the service industry would be affected as well. 
 

I don’t think a full mobilization will happen. 

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3 hours ago, DallasDMac said:

So we were told 20 million would be vaccinated by the end of the month. Number vaccinated, 1 million. So we are running at 5% of planned. For us regular schmoes, looking like what, maybe 2022 before we have a shot at getting one?

I’m willing (not that it matters) to give them time on this. The logistics must be impossible and it’s never been done so fine, take the time needed. That said, if I can’t get the vax by July I’ll be extremely disappointed. 

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3 hours ago, DallasDMac said:

So we were told 20 million would be vaccinated by the end of the month. Number vaccinated, 1 million. So we are running at 5% of planned. For us regular schmoes, looking like what, maybe 2022 before we have a shot at getting one?

Millions of doses are sitting in warehouses because the federal government that pre-purchased them has no plan for distribution and is completely incompetent.  Hopefully the incoming administration makes this a priority and actually treats this pandemic as something real that needs to be handled.  I expect that vaccinations will pick up in the spring.

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Am I wrong here? We were going to my brother's house for Xmas today. My brother and his wife had it. My wife had it. Me and my son did not.

Out of the blue, my father, who's been in FL all month said he's coming over. He flew back December 18. He was either supposed to quarantine for 14 days or get tested on day 4. He did neither. I told him I wasn't comfortable with this and my wife says I'm being selfish.

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14 minutes ago, jobarules said:

Am I wrong here? We were going to my brother's house for Xmas today. My brother and his wife had it. My wife had it. Me and my son did not.

Out of the blue, my father, who's been in FL all month said he's coming over. He flew back December 18. He was either supposed to quarantine for 14 days or get tested on day 4. He did neither. I told him I wasn't comfortable with this and my wife says I'm being selfish.

Foregoing time with loved ones to slow the spread of Covid sounds like the exact opposite of selfish.

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22 minutes ago, jobarules said:

Am I wrong here? We were going to my brother's house for Xmas today. My brother and his wife had it. My wife had it. Me and my son did not.

Out of the blue, my father, who's been in FL all month said he's coming over. He flew back December 18. He was either supposed to quarantine for 14 days or get tested on day 4. He did neither. I told him I wasn't comfortable with this and my wife says I'm being selfish.

Not wrong.  Not selfish. The exact opposite.

Your father could learn from your example, unfortunately.

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4 hours ago, the rover said:

Millions of doses are sitting in warehouses because the federal government that pre-purchased them has no plan for distribution and is completely incompetent.  Hopefully the incoming administration makes this a priority and actually treats this pandemic as something real that needs to be handled.  I expect that vaccinations will pick up in the spring.

I expect the incoming administration to reestablish the pandemic response team. 

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2 hours ago, jobarules said:

Am I wrong here? We were going to my brother's house for Xmas today. My brother and his wife had it. My wife had it. Me and my son did not.

Out of the blue, my father, who's been in FL all month said he's coming over. He flew back December 18. He was either supposed to quarantine for 14 days or get tested on day 4. He did neither. I told him I wasn't comfortable with this and my wife says I'm being selfish.

You are not wrong. 

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3 hours ago, jobarules said:

Am I wrong here? We were going to my brother's house for Xmas today. My brother and his wife had it. My wife had it. Me and my son did not.

Out of the blue, my father, who's been in FL all month said he's coming over. He flew back December 18. He was either supposed to quarantine for 14 days or get tested on day 4. He did neither. I told him I wasn't comfortable with this and my wife says I'm being selfish.

Not wrong at all.  A friend had the same scenario for thanksgiving and got shamed for not going.  They all came down with covid.  Smdh 

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16 hours ago, Gachi said:

Hey guys how long until you got your senses back?

I got exposed exactly a week ago and lost my taste and smell on Tuesday. 

From what I hear this could potentially be permanent, which would be awful.

So far the loss of taste and smell have been the most significant symptoms. I’ve had some congestion, a little coughing and sneezing plus a slight sore throat. I’m in my late 20s and reasonably healthy. I don’t think this thing is gonna get any worse for me. But I realize people of all ages can die from it. 
 

I just really miss the taste of bacon, hash browns & eggs. 

 

 

I lost my taste and smell senses about two weeks ago.  They seem to be returning slowly.    I can taste sweet and salty now.    There doesn’t seem to be a standard timeline for this damn virus.   Maybe you will be able to taste and smell in a few days.  Be glad you don’t have punishing symptoms such as difficulty breathing.   

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17 hours ago, Gachi said:

Hey guys how long until you got your senses back?

I got exposed exactly a week ago and lost my taste and smell on Tuesday. 

From what I hear this could potentially be permanent, which would be awful.

So far the loss of taste and smell have been the most significant symptoms. I’ve had some congestion, a little coughing and sneezing plus a slight sore throat. I’m in my late 20s and reasonably healthy. I don’t think this thing is gonna get any worse for me. But I realize people of all ages can die from it. 
 

I just really miss the taste of bacon, hash browns & eggs. 

 

 

My friend and her fiancé said it was about 3 weeks for her and 4 weeks for him.

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17 hours ago, Gachi said:

Hey guys how long until you got your senses back?

I got exposed exactly a week ago and lost my taste and smell on Tuesday. 

From what I hear this could potentially be permanent, which would be awful.

So far the loss of taste and smell have been the most significant symptoms. I’ve had some congestion, a little coughing and sneezing plus a slight sore throat. I’m in my late 20s and reasonably healthy. I don’t think this thing is gonna get any worse for me. But I realize people of all ages can die from it. 
 

I just really miss the taste of bacon, hash browns & eggs. 

 

 

Mine was gone about a month and even then not fully. It was really the only symptoms I had and it was 9 months ago.

My taste is fine but I don't think my sense of smell is what it used to be. It's still good, but I thought I had a more keen sense of smell before.

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6 hours ago, jobarules said:

Am I wrong here? We were going to my brother's house for Xmas today. My brother and his wife had it. My wife had it. Me and my son did not.

Out of the blue, my father, who's been in FL all month said he's coming over. He flew back December 18. He was either supposed to quarantine for 14 days or get tested on day 4. He did neither. I told him I wasn't comfortable with this and my wife says I'm being selfish.

For Christmas, you should have got her a cross-stitch kit that just spelled out the word "Irony."

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