KingPrawn 1,664 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, NorvilleBarnes said: Going WAY out on a limb here and predicting the other candidates will be singing Yangs praises tonight. Will they be chasing his 1% of the vote? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maurile Tremblay 22,270 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Is there a Republican primary thread? Bill Weld is at 12% of the votes so far. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorvilleBarnes 3,728 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, KingPrawn said: Will they be chasing his 1% of the vote? Probably not Biden, but the others yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 24,445 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, caustic said: Nate Silver just tweeted that this is shaping up to be an awfully nice night for Bernie. He didn't say why, but I'm guessing it's because the two moderates gaining momentum here are the two with zero support from minority voters. Yep - there's still some big question marks about Pete and Amy with minorities. I'm happy though because my top 3 candidates are Bernie, Pete and Amy. Time for Steyer, Bennett and Gabbard to follow Yang out the door. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingPrawn 1,664 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Shula-holic said: Yep, and Warren appears to be toast. She's under 10% and her home state borders NH. Moderates like Amy, Mayor Pete, Biden and Bloomberg will continue to split that vote. Bernie's more progressive opponent Warren is having a very bad night. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hagmania 8,792 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Maurile Tremblay said: Is there a Republican primary thread? Bill Weld is at 12% of the votes so far. holy balls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gopher State 959 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Yang gang retired Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigmarc27 4,162 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, ShamrockPride said: Nobody is going to be pulling away with 5 major candidates still. Yeah but if things continue in this route, none of the Steyer, Biden, Yang, etc... people are going to Bernie. I’m not totally sure he’d sweep the Warren people considering their exchange after the debate a few weeks back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caustic 3,736 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Michael Bennet will be suspending his campaign tonight. I imagine the remaining candidates will be scrambling to win over his supporters. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Getzlaf15 10,809 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) LOL at 32% of the votes being counted, 37 minutes after the closing time. Edited February 12, 2020 by Getzlaf15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caustic 3,736 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, bigmarc27 said: Yeah but if things continue in this route, none of the Steyer, Biden, Yang, etc... people are going to Bernie. I’m not totally sure he’d sweep the Warren people considering their exchange after the debate a few weeks back. According to today's Morning Consult national poll, a plurality of Biden supporters list Bernie as their second choice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KingPrawn 1,664 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Getzlaf15 said: LOL at 32% of the votes have been counted 37 minutes after the closing time. Is Iowa still counting? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 24,445 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, bigmarc27 said: Yeah but if things continue in this route, none of the Steyer, Biden, Yang, etc... people are going to Bernie. I’m not totally sure he’d sweep the Warren people considering their exchange after the debate a few weeks back. I'm not sure what Steyer fans are looking for but I could see Yang supporters going to Bernie, especially if it's younger people. I get the impression that Biden supporters will vote for whoever the DNC pushes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorvilleBarnes 3,728 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Bennet dropping out. In other news, Bennet was still running. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShamrockPride 5,293 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, bigmarc27 said: Yeah but if things continue in this route, none of the Steyer, Biden, Yang, etc... people are going to Bernie. I’m not totally sure he’d sweep the Warren people considering their exchange after the debate a few weeks back. Totally agree. I said last week I felt that whole private convo thing was a final straw and a permanent schism between those two bases. Some will go back, but it will be significantly fewer than if it hadn't happened. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcintyre1 3,294 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, caustic said: According to today's Morning Consult national poll, a plurality of Biden supporters list Bernie as their second choice. This kind of thing is why you really can't just add up the "progressive" numbers and the "moderate" voters and compare them when there are so many people. Too hard to predict how things change as the choices disappear. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigmarc27 4,162 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, caustic said: According to today's Morning Consult national poll, a plurality of Biden supporters list Bernie as their second choice. I’ll believe it when I see it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigmarc27 4,162 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, AAABatteries said: I'm not sure what Steyer fans are looking for but I could see Yang supporters going to Bernie, especially if it's younger people. I get the impression that Biden supporters will vote for whoever the DNC pushes. Maybe so. DNC will push a moderate. They want to win and they’re not going to hitch their wagon to a guy who’s nearly 80 and just had a heart attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The General 24,238 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 There goes Yang and my grand a month. I do hope the guy sticks in the game and advocates for something. He’ll more likely go make a boatload of money somewhere doing smart stuff. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Biff84 2,788 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, KingPrawn said: Moderates like Amy, Mayor Pete, Biden and Bloomberg will continue to split that vote. Bernie's more progressive opponent Warren is having a very bad night. The thing Bernie should be concerned about is that Warren’s bad night isn’t resulting in a bigger lead for him. Them only combining for 40% in a neighboring state isn’t great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beef 2,491 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, The General said: There goes Yang and my grand a month. I do hope the guy sticks in the game and advocates for something. He’ll more likely go make a boatload of money somewhere doing smart stuff. I'd absolutely find him a role in my admin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shula-holic 2,216 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, mcintyre1 said: This kind of thing is why you really can't just add up the "progressive" numbers and the "moderate" voters and compare them when there are so many people. Too hard to predict how things change as the choices disappear. This was the error establishment Republicans made about the "anti-Trump" vote in the 2016 primaries. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maurile Tremblay 22,270 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, caustic said: According to today's Morning Consult national poll, a plurality of Biden supporters list Bernie as their second choice. Most of those people also listed him as their first choice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caustic 3,736 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Here are Morning Consult's second-choice numbers for the top 5 candidates: SANDERS SUPPORTERS Warren 29% Biden 23% Yang 12% BIDEN SUPPORTERS Sanders 28% Bloomberg 23% Warren 16% BLOOMBERG SUPPORTERS Biden 30% Sanders 17% Buttigieg 17% Warren 12% BUTTIGIEG SUPPORTERS Bloomberg 20% Biden 19% Sanders 17% Warren 17% WARREN SUPPORTERS Sanders 35% Biden 17% Buttigieg 14% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorvilleBarnes 3,728 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Biden to speak from SC He's not dropping out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 24,445 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Shula-holic said: This was the error establishment Republicans made about the "anti-Trump" vote in the 2016 primaries. I think that's why there were folks who wanted to vote for Bernie but then voted for Trump. They just showed the non-college degree white voting and it went heavily for Bernie - I think Bernie and Trump appeal to similar people - ones who hate politicians and see them all as weasels. They just want something different. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAC_32 12,077 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Biff84 said: The thing Bernie should be concerned about is that Warren’s bad night isn’t resulting in a bigger lead for him. Them only combining for 40% in a neighboring state isn’t great. Kornacki just showed exit poll data stating 51% of those who said they were undecided last week went Pete or Amy. Bernie only got 16. The undecided pool reportedly represented half of the vote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gr00vus 11,826 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, NorvilleBarnes said: Biden to speak from SC He's not dropping out Oh, he is, he just doesn't know it yet. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Elliott 1,114 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 MSNBC saying Warren and Biden won’t get any delegates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gr00vus 11,826 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, MAC_32 said: Kornacki just showed exit poll data stating 51% of those who said they were undecided last week went Pete or Amy. Bernie only got 16. The undecided pool reportedly represented half of the vote. Makes sense. Sanders is a pretty known quantity at this point, the other two have been relatively obscure. Someone undecided at this point had already figured out Bernie wasn't their first choice, but not necessarily who their first choice was. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 24,445 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, AAABatteries said: I think that's why there were folks who wanted to vote for Bernie but then voted for Trump. They just showed the non-college degree white voting and it went heavily for Bernie - I think Bernie and Trump appeal to similar people - ones who hate politicians and see them all as weasels. They just want something different. And that's also why I think it may be a mistake for the GOP to push Bernie - I could see folks being just as surprised about President Sanders as folks were about waking up to a President Trump. One of the CNN folks pointed out that if you just listed the things Bernie has going for him that if it were any other candidate the DNC would declare the race over. Does incredible with young people, popular with minorities and has an unbelievable ground game and small donors. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Elliott 1,114 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Looks like a three horse race. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smack Tripper 2,748 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, caustic said: Steyer is suspending his campaign as well. Dropping like flies now. Why now, he was was supposed to be doing good in SC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 24,445 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Smack Tripper said: Why now, he was was supposed to be doing good in SC He ran out of argyle ties. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McBokonon 2,881 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Phil Elliott said: Looks like a three horse race. Bloomberg lurks. Warren should drop out now for the good of the party. Peter can quit after the next couple states. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAC_32 12,077 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Phil Elliott said: Looks like a three horse race. And Bloomberg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McBokonon 2,881 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, caustic said: Steyer is suspending his campaign as well. Dropping like flies now. I’m seeing this isn’t true and the campaign is denying it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 24,445 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Warren almost sounds like she's dropping out. She's giving the unity speech. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShamrockPride 5,293 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Smack Tripper said: Why now, he was was supposed to be doing good in SC Some polls had him in 2nd 😳 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caustic 3,736 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, McBokonon said: I’m seeing this isn’t true and the campaign is denying it. Thanks - unfollowing the person who tweeted that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorvilleBarnes 3,728 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, NorvilleBarnes said: Going WAY out on a limb here and predicting the other candidates will be singing Yangs praises tonight. From Mayor Pete: . @AndrewYang started out unknown, but went on to make a big impact with his campaign built on preparing for America’s future. Andrew, we’ll miss you and the #YangGang on the trail, but I can’t wait to work together to help prepare America for the challenges ahead. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gr00vus 11,826 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) I can sort of understand dropping out at this point if you were low single digits, but otherwise I'd be trying to hang on through super Tuesday at least. I don't think any of these early primaries build a solid narrative (unless someone somehow sweeps). Edited February 12, 2020 by Gr00vus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Elliott 1,114 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, McBokonon said: Bloomberg lurks. Warren should drop out now for the good of the party. Peter can quit after the next couple states. For NH its only Bernie,Pete and Amy. And we probably all could pick the trifecta. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShamrockPride 5,293 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, NorvilleBarnes said: From Mayor Pete: . @AndrewYang started out unknown, but went on to make a big impact with his campaign built on preparing for America’s future. Andrew, we’ll miss you and the #YangGang on the trail, but I can’t wait to work together to help prepare America for the challenges ahead. Begging for an endorsement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marauder 462 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 No way Steyer would be dropping out now. NV and SC are where he's been spending most of his money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caustic 3,736 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Pete is inching closer, Bernie's 5-6 point lead is down to 3.5. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Elliott 1,114 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, MAC_32 said: And Bloomberg. Tonight its just three. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PhantomJB 657 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, AAABatteries said: Warren almost sounds like she's dropping out. She's giving the unity speech. From Warren's speech...may be a potential harbinger of a future endorsement. “Amy and I are the only candidates in this race who are not either billionaires or supported by Super PACs,” Warren said of she and Klobuchar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 24,445 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I said before but if Warren drops out and Bloomberg swoops in then that's a scenario that is really good for Bernie. If it gets to the convention and Bernie has like 35% of the delegates and Pete, Amy and Bloomberg are at like 20% each it may be party suicide for Bernie to not get the nomination. Hopefully more nominees follow Warren's lead and push for unity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cap'n grunge 7,632 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 51 minutes ago, bigmarc27 said: I should add that I’d have a political boner for a Pete/Amy ticket. This. Please. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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