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The Republicans are going to paint every Democrat candidate as a wild out of control socialist. Pete, Amy, Warren, doesn't matter.  They ran with that against Obama for 8 years and he started every ne

On your first question, I'm not sure, though there's a distinction between democratic socialism and socialism socialism, as I know you know. I'm not sure the younger generation cares so much abou

Fast  forward to a little over 6 months from now and a bunch of you are going to be scratching your heads as Trump gets another 4 years in office, wondering how Biden lost. Then you'll somehow blame t

Just now, Maurile Tremblay said:

Amy and Pete should make a deal that, between the two of them, whoever has fewer total votes after South Carolina should immediately endorse the other one two full days before Super Tuesday.

Wholeheartedly agree. And the other gets VP. 

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Amy is truly the embodiment solid but not spectacular.  She's improved her likability or maybe I'm more familiar with her now but she's pretty flat and needs a little pizzaz.  Her teeing up and telegraphing a laugh line is painful and seems a basic part of politics but there's a lot to like here.

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Just now, Maurile Tremblay said:

Amy and Pete should make a deal that, between the two of them, whoever has fewer total votes after South Carolina should immediately endorse the other one two full days before Super Tuesday.

Had the same thought, but it doesn't solve the Bloomberg problem they're about to have.

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2 minutes ago, caustic said:

Sanders' lead has dwindled to just under 2% (3900 votes) with 71% reporting.

It’s fluctuated on percentage, but total vote difference has been pretty steady for a while.  I don’t see Pete making up 4000 votes. 

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Just now, Maurile Tremblay said:

Amy and Pete should make a deal that, between the two of them, whoever has fewer total votes after South Carolina should immediately endorse the other one two full days before Super Tuesday.

Klobuchar just made up 10 points on Pete in four days. Can't say I'd advise her to take that deal.

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4 minutes ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

Amy and Pete should make a deal that, between the two of them, whoever has fewer total votes after South Carolina should immediately endorse the other one two full days before Super Tuesday.

Problem is I don't think Amy likes him. She sees him as undeserving compared to her experience.

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1 minute ago, bigmarc27 said:

Are we really expecting Bloomberg to do anything?  He’s just trolling Trump. 

It seems pretty plausible he's going to win a fair share of the Super Tuesday delegates.  And he pulls more votes from Pete/Amy than he will from Sanders.

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1 minute ago, Henry Ford said:

It’s fluctuated on percentage, but total vote difference has been pretty steady for a while.  I don’t see Pete making up 4000 votes. 

Agreed.  But given the proportionality of the delegates he's going to have fought Sanders to essentially a delegate tie after IA and NH.  I didn't see that as likely.  I still think Sanders may stretch this a bit, but Pete has kept it closer than I expected in NH.

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10 minutes ago, Henry Ford said:

Not sure I see where Pete gets +4000 with what’s left.  Great result compared to expectations a few weeks ago though. 

Yeah, back up to about 4200 vote lead for Sanders now. Very good showing for Pete though.

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5 minutes ago, Shula-holic said:

Agreed.  But given the proportionality of the delegates he's going to have fought Sanders to essentially a delegate tie after IA and NH.  I didn't see that as likely.  I still think Sanders may stretch this a bit, but Pete has kept it closer than I expected in NH.

 

It’s just nice to see a Democrat who understands and actively works for the numbers that count in an election.  Delegates, folks. They matter. 

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1 minute ago, Henry Ford said:

It’s just nice to see a Democrat who understands and actively works for the numbers that count in an election.  Delegates, folks. They matter. 

Same can be said for Klobuchar, I think.

I happen to think this is a very good pool of candidates this year. :)

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15 minutes ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

Amy and Pete should make a deal that, between the two of them, whoever has fewer total votes after South Carolina should immediately endorse the other one two full days before Super Tuesday.

Why would Amy give up her career when she's gaining?

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35 minutes ago, Biff84 said:

Imagine Trump being able to rip Bernie as being so extreme that even another progressive was unwilling to endorse him. It would fall right in line with a campaign attack of fearing the socialist and probably would work. 

I think Dems spend too much time worrying what Trump will say about them.  It's really just tortured logic to keep the party centrist forever.  'Imagine Clinton being able to rip Trump as being so extreme even the Bushes wouldn't endorse him.'  Trump was unorthodox and extreme by any measure- and then he won. 

Conventional wisdom is over, it's a different era now.  

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6 minutes ago, ren hoek said:

Conventional wisdom is over, it's a different era now.  

Or, Trump was a fluke and things will return to normal starting the next election.

I prefer to think of Trump as an exception, rather than a changed norm.  Honestly, we can't survive if it's a different era that Trump is representative of.

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24 minutes ago, Dinsy Ejotuz said:

Sanders appears to have lost over half his support from four years ago.

Well there's like 5 prominent politicians running a pretty neck and neck race, versus effectively 2 in 2016.  No one's going to run away with it until the herd thins out a bit.  Especially with Carville and Bloomberg and Hillary and MSNBC and every other centrist coming out of the woodwork to subvert a left populist campaign.  

Sanders has broken records for # of individual donors.  He has the most individual donors in about 47 states.  It's really unprecedented in a lot of respects.  Super Tuesday will tell us a lot.  

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2 minutes ago, adonis said:

Or, Trump was a fluke and things will return to normal starting the next election.

I prefer to think of Trump as an exception, rather than a changed norm.  Honestly, we can't survive if it's a different era that Trump is representative of.

Bad defeatist attitude. Adapt and advance imo.

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25 minutes ago, cap'n grunge said:

Problem is I don't think Amy likes him. She sees him as undeserving compared to her experience.

Nah.  That’s just political talk.  Listening to Warren tonight, for example, it’s clear these folks don’t all actually hate each other.  They are just trying to win.

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1 minute ago, ren hoek said:

Well there's like 5 prominent politicians running a pretty neck and neck race, versus effectively 2 in 2016.  No one's going to run away with it until the herd thins out a bit.  Especially with Carville and Bloomberg and Hillary and MSNBC and every other centrist coming out of the woodwork to subvert a left populist campaign.  

Sanders has broken records for # of individual donors.  He has the most individual donors in about 47 states.  It's really unprecedented in a lot of respects.  Super Tuesday will tell us a lot.  

Agreed on that front. If Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Biden are all still in the race, Sanders will take a lot of states with a plurality. 

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4 minutes ago, adonis said:

Or, Trump was a fluke and things will return to normal starting the next election.

I prefer to think of Trump as an exception, rather than a changed norm.  Honestly, we can't survive if it's a different era that Trump is representative of.

Trump was a fluke. But it's never going back. 

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3 minutes ago, adonis said:

Or, Trump was a fluke and things will return to normal starting the next election.

Which is exactly what a lot of us have been saying since he got in. So can all of you on the Trump fearmonger bandwagon relax with the "stuff he does will change our country forever" narrative?

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2 minutes ago, ShamrockPride said:

Which is exactly what a lot of us have been saying since he got in. So can all of you on the Trump fearmonger bandwagon relax with the "stuff he does will change our country forever" narrative?

If he wins another election, things change forever.

He wins another election if people don't take what he's doing now seriously.

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1 minute ago, MAC_32 said:

Yep, Pere needs to post huge numbers in Hanover, Durham, and Derry and still probably needs some more help.

Decision Desk HQ has all three of those in already, Pete won Hanover by 5.5% (but only gained 170 total votes on Sanders), Sanders won the other two. Derry by 2.5% (about 150 vote lead) and Durham by 11% (about 540 vote lead).

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Just now, Maurile Tremblay said:

It's never bad to win. But I'd say that Buttigieg and Klobuchar outperformed expectations, while Sanders underperformed them a bit.

Auditioning for a job at CNN when J shuts this down?

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