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Is anyone actually giving the XFL a chance to redeem itself?

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2 minutes ago, WDIK2 said:

Surprised they don't have sponsorship patches on their uniforms like NFL Europe.  Mt Dew would be a natural fit for the Vipers.

I was wondering about this too.  With no tv revenue, shirt sponsorship can be some decent coin when revenue is tight as is likely to be in the first couple of XFL years.

 MLS teams make around $3-4m per team per season for shirt sponsorships

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It isn’t as awful as I expected, so I was pleasantly surprised week 1. 

If I were commish, I’d have been interested in capturing the early-in crowd in summer to early fall before college and NFL and let the average fan have his/her break for a few months after the super bowl. 

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3 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said:

I was wondering about this too.  With no tv revenue, shirt sponsorship can be some decent coin when revenue is tight as is likely to be in the first couple of XFL years.

 MLS teams make around $3-4m per team per season for shirt sponsorships

Wait, no tv revenue?  

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3 minutes ago, facook said:

Wait, no tv revenue?  

No.  The games are being broadcast for free the first two seasons.  That was the easiest way to get them on the air with the big networks.

The ways these sometimes work with start up leagues is that the league will purchase the time from the networks and then try and break even by selling adds.  I don't know if that is how the XFL is doing it or if they have another method.

The goal is that Vince will have deep enough pockets to float the losses for two years and then sign a tv deal.  MLS did this for quite a while before finally signing a big deal.  It's not easy and takes some deep pockets.

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1 minute ago, NewlyRetired said:

No.  The games are being broadcast for free the first two seasons.  That was the easiest way to get them on the air with the big networks.

The goal is that Vince will have deep enough pockets to float the losses for two years and then sign a tv deal.

Wow.  No wonder the big networks are all in.

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14 minutes ago, Capella said:

Probably saw an hour total of the two games today. Absolutely dreadful. Don’t know how the ratings hold for this. Was beyond bad imo. 

Maybe they could limit the defense to 10 players or something to beef up scoring?

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10 hours ago, Dan Lambskin said:

Maybe they could limit the defense to 10 players or something to beef up scoring?

It's going to get rough if we don't see more/better offense.  Maybe put the defense on roller skates?

The thing is, I don't think the defenses are that much better.  Just bad QB play.  Plenty of open receivers are being missed.

Any option QBs in the league?  

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1 minute ago, WDIK2 said:

It's going to get rough if we don't see more/better offense.  Maybe put the defense on roller skates?

The thing is, I don't think the defenses are that much better.  Just bad QB play.  Plenty of open receivers are being missed.

Any option QBs in the league?  

Yesterday the only competent qb was Cardale. So that’s 1/4 teams. Today the Houston qb looks good, Landry Jones should be fine, I don’t know who the STL or LA qbs are. So that’s maybe 3/8 teams with solid qb play. Not good. 

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9 minutes ago, Capella said:

Yesterday the only competent qb was Cardale. So that’s 1/4 teams. Today the Houston qb looks good, Landry Jones should be fine, I don’t know who the STL or LA qbs are. So that’s maybe 3/8 teams with solid qb play. Not good. 

I can see Cardale getting another shot in the NFL.  I wonder how quick they will be to give guys a shot off the practice squad?  Not sure how McGloin could still be on a roster after yesterday

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14 hours ago, Capella said:

Probably saw an hour total of the two games today. Absolutely dreadful. Don’t know how the ratings hold for this. Was beyond bad imo. 

Yeah, I watched very little yesterday and what I did see was abysmal.  Matt McGloin was playing like a guy who was cut by every team he ever tried out for in any sport.  What. Was.  THAT????

 

Dallas -5 and St. Louis +8 :bag:

 

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2 hours ago, Capella said:

Yesterday the only competent qb was Cardale. So that’s 1/4 teams. Today the Houston qb looks good, Landry Jones should be fine, I don’t know who the STL or LA qbs are. So that’s maybe 3/8 teams with solid qb play. Not good. 

St. Louis QB was solid last week and can actually run a good bit. He was at Ole Miss with AJ Brown, DK Metcalf and Dawson Knox and finished 2nd in the SEC is passing behind Tua.  I think he as an opportunity to build on his performance last week.  

Dallas going with Landry Jones today.  Should help improve their offense. Can't be any worse than Philip Nelson. 

LA might try Josh Johnson today but he's still hobbled.  If he can't go, LA should get destroyed.  They are missing two CBs today too. 

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1 minute ago, General Malaise said:

St. Louis QB was solid last week and can actually run a good bit. He was at Ole Miss with AJ Brown, DK Metcalf and Dawson Knox and finished 2nd in the SEC is passing behind Tua.  I think he as an opportunity to build on his performance last week.  

Dallas going with Landry Jones today.  Should help improve their offense. Can't be any worse than Philip Nelson. 

LA might try Josh Johnson today but he's still hobbled.  If he can't go, LA should get destroyed.  They are missing two CBs today too. 

Oh yea that STL QB was good. I remember him at Ole Miss. Ok so like half the teams have decent qb play. I hope the league makes it, I enjoyed last weekend. 

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21 minutes ago, Capella said:

 

Oh yea that STL QB was good. I remember him at Ole Miss. Ok so like half the teams have decent qb play. I hope the league makes it, I enjoyed last weekend. 

Yesterday was a good reminder as to why all these coaches have been fired multiple times or came out of lengthy retirements.  The game has passed a lot of them by.  Marc Trestman should be selling life insurance.  Kevin Gillbride should be arguing with somebody at the "Returns" section of Home Depot.  Jim Zorn should be helping his granddaughter file her first tax return.  

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26 minutes ago, Capella said:

They’re gonna have to set these unders at 27.5

Sorry for anyone playing in XFL fantasy leagues. I think the defensive players have scored more TDs this weekend than the offensive players.

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1 hour ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

Seems to be way less penalty flags than most NFL games which is good obviously

Unrelated I think I’ve seen a female official in every game so far

One of the announcer last week said that each crew will have a female official.

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1 hour ago, Tom Servo said:

The first 3 point XFL conversation made by LA...from the 5. 

(Dallas got flagged for offsides which moved it up.) 

Houston had a 15 yard penalty after a TD for a player removing his helmet. They tried a 1 point conversion from the 17. 

I think they should change the rule so penalties are applied to the kickoff and not the conversion. 

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2 hours ago, Tom Servo said:

The first 3 point XFL conversation made by LA...from the 5. 

(Dallas got flagged for offsides which moved it up.) 

Did they start off going for 3? Or did they start off going for 2, then decided to move back after the penalty?

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52 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

Did they start off going for 3? Or did they start off going for 2, then decided to move back after the penalty?

Started off going for 3.  I don't think they can change their declaration after a penalty.

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1 hour ago, NewlyRetired said:

14,979 in LA.  That is the smallest crowd so far.  I watched some of that game and it was really quiet, very little atmosphere.

What do they expect? There’s 2 NFL teams in LA now and one of them can’t sell out a small MLS stadium. 

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