The General
Footballguy
The president was advocating to stop the selection of the next president and his people rioted because of it at the Capitol. He continues to lie about it to this day. That's kind of a big deal.
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Are we already living in a dictatorship? (2 Viewers)
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quick-hands
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
I provided a couple above. Plenty more where those came from as well. Also, if you follow the conversation, it wasn’t a whataboutism either.
quick-hands
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
It wasn’t a whataboutism. Again...follow the conversation vs chiming in midstream.
quick-hands
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
When the discussion is about who ordered the fortifications. No. Its a response to then conversation that was ongoing.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Having troops there *is* bad optics I guess.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
It’s not even a good whataboutism. He’s comparing fencing put up for a weekend to a 5 month occupation.quick-hands said:
sho nuff
Footballguy
It wasn't a whataboutism as you know. You blamed Biden for the fortification...a fortification that was put there prior to him taking office. That piece and the links were not about the troops...as I never claimed a thing (and its still not an occupation).
They were brought in (late, I might add), because of what happened on January 6th. Many have left, but those remaining have done so at the request of Capitol Police. Who believe there is still a need for such forces.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
I’m old enough to remember a President strong enough to tell a foreign country to “tear down that wall.” If Biden wanted the wall down, he could have it down in hours.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Trump supporters
The attack on the capitol only happened because of such terrible security. A three year old could have broken through those gates
Also Trump supporters
How dare they beef up security. That is a public building and we pay their salaries. What are they afraid of?
The attack on the capitol only happened because of such terrible security. A three year old could have broken through those gates
Also Trump supporters
How dare they beef up security. That is a public building and we pay their salaries. What are they afraid of?
sho nuff
Footballguy
So you now concede it was not him that "fortified" things.
Apparently this POTUS, privy to all security briefings, believes what his Capitol Police are telling them about needing the extra support and agrees they should stay there. Not sure how long the fencing as of yet.
FairWarning
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
But there was also plenty of information that Trump rarely listened to such things. And Id guess after the election even less so.
And people can read all they want about his mindset that day as well.
The fact remains...the capitol appears to have not been properly secured that day. Capitol Police are requesting the guard stays a little longer.
That is far from "occupation".
FairWarning
Footballguy
That’s my point - he had plenty of info for anything. He chose to turn his job into a reality show as time went on. When you do little for the people you expect to help you, it doesn’t end well....and it didn’t.
The General
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
So the article admits there were no credible threats. I expect @sho nuff to be coming in to clear up his falsehoods soon.
sho nuff
Footballguy
No current credible threats. Does not indicate whether there were not any...or whether they were investigating threats to determine what threats there will be.
Nothing I stated was false. HTH
Also...an odd way of admitting it was all temporary and not some occupation or sign of a dictatorship.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Troops are still occupying DC. They just modified some fencing so you are wrong on both accounts. Two wrongs don’t make a right. They point out someone pushing a false narrative. Be better. TIA.
sho nuff
Footballguy
They are scaling back..but they are not, nor were they ever "occupying" DC.
Seems the only one pushing a false narrative is you.
The General
Footballguy
They now say they have no threats that require the full fencing. Hopefully Trump won’t cause another riot and it can be fully removed soon.
Did you not see Jan 6th?
What is it you think the extra police, National Guard are doing there?
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Hopefully CNN is done paying instigators $35,000 to infiltrate a peaceful rally and rile up a few bad seeds.
I think they are being used as a show of force as a radical left wing agenda is pushed forward. Why else would we now have military leaders voicing political opinions publicly?
The General
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yes..that is why the riot happend...the riling up. Just a laughable far right talking point really.
As is a claim that there is some radical left wing agenda that requires the guard there. Come on man.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
I've also seen Portland, Chicago, Seattle and numerous other cities that had insurrections. Did we call the National Guard then?
The General
Footballguy
Seattle activated the National Guard in Late May IIRC. Not sure about the other cities.
Are you saying that they should or shouldn’t protect the Capitol or these cities?
BladeRunner
Footballguy
They should only protect the capital if it needs protecting. Not with some fake excuse about some fake threat.
The General
Footballguy
The FBI said they had like 2000 active domestic terrorist investigations going just last month. Like double they had going after 9/11.
Do you think they are making this up?
Insein
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
They aren’t Trump supporters. They’re Americans. They’re your brothers sisters, mothers and fathers.
Both sides are full of crap and we have much bigger problems going on than fences, who did what and who is responsible for this or that.
We are a crumbling empire and this is more serious than climate change, gun control, or race relations in this country.
We are headed for a war against a massive populace that doesn’t play by our rules. We are already at war, just not militarily yet.
I suggest we all stop pointing the finger at each other and start reaching out with olive branches.
timschochet
Footballguy
This thread was begun by liberals asking this question. Now apparently it’s conservatives who are asking the question.
The answer is still no.
The answer is still no.
timschochet
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
BladeRunner
Footballguy
So, like, 1000 active threats doesn't need the National Guard but 2000 does? 1000 also seems like a lot, no?
The General
Footballguy
Do you think the National Guard should help or not?
What is the implication that you are making with the extra security being taken (and now reduced) around the Capitol?
Yes 1000 is a lot, 2000 is crazy. That number was shocking to me as there are double what there were right after 9/11. These extremists are posing a very real threat.
It's an excellent rant for sure and it is the larger issue at play globally
They are taking over the world while we bicker over children's books.
The amount of money that has been shipped to China and the middle east should have never been allowed to happen
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
How about the money we spend on elections at all levels?killface said:
sho nuff
Footballguy
I think many of us can agree it’s ridiculous how much is spent on campaigns.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
I agree with Sho. i suspect a good portion of the population would get behind limiting this
If we added up all the elections over the last decade we could do a lot of positive things in this country
The General
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
We're sort of at war. China is doing things and has done things (and so have we) that used to trigger the old "acts of war" doctrine, if my understanding is correct. It's just that we're a mutually assured destruction threat, so that sort of keeps everything under wraps.
I never thought the specter of nuclear war would hang over our lives like it did in the Cold War, but it certainly does today, in my estimation.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Biden pressuring MLB to pull the ASG out of Georgia to punish his political enemies is NOT something a dictator would do
Are troops still occupying DC?
Are troops still occupying DC?
sho nuff
Footballguy
They never were occupying.
Also...saying he would support the all star game move is pressure now?
BladeRunner
Footballguy
No No No! THAT's NOT a dictatorship!
It's a dictatorship when the POTUS tweets all day long.
sho nuff
Footballguy
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