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The Trumpers made a lot of noise about no one testifying about hearing of the quid-pro-quo directly from Trump. So that lack of first-hand testimony was what many of them were hanging their "plausible deniability" hat on. Bolton might have destroyed that position for them. Of course they were always going to acquit, but it would have been nice to see them at least go through the motions of having an actual trial instead of engaging in a blatant cover-up.
Weird how "your guy" could never be accused of anything you accuse the "other guy" of.
In your opinion. But the clamoring to impeach him cut down party lines, which is also exactly what our founders wanted to avoid. I would have liked to seen both Clinton and Trump removed. But neither party had the backbone to do it to their side.
That is false. No witnesses were heard in the Senate trial. The Senate voted down along party lines against hearing from any witnesses, including John Bolton.
Nope, you're wrong. The Senate had all of the testimony from witnesses in the House.
I love when you say 'That is false', but completely fail to contradict anything I said.
This is mostly how I see it.
No, Obama did not want to be a dictator. He decided he needed to rule by executive order because congress decided to no longer cooperate. I thought it was a mistake at the time, it's been proven over time, but I also understand why he made that decision. When you're put in a lose-lose situation, which bad option are you going to choose?
Agreed. Kind of like calling anyone who doesn't vote like you "racist". Cheapens the term and it loses all meaning.
No need to hide these contents.
Right. But are you of the same crowd that pooh-poohs what will happen if Sanders - a true Socialist - gets into office?
Can we at least wait until he actually does something dictatorial before sounding the alarm?
Are you asking if I’m worried we’ll become Denmark or Finland? Nope. I’m a big fan of the Nordic model.
Really? Hitler became Chancellor on January 30, 1933. The Enabling Act was passed March 23, 1933. Less than two months seems pretty darn swift to me.
Firing people is well within his rights. Obama put kids in those same cages- albeit when they were on their own-and only ceased by court order. Regardless, Trump exercising his right to terminate those that serve at his pleasure or detaining people crossing into the country illegally are not, in any way, dictatorial. YMMV be damned.
Yeah, I assume that you knew exactly what I was talking about but tried to be funny.
Except Obama was putting kids in cages too. I assume you were as equally outraged and called for his impeachment?
He’s absolutely in the vein of the Nordic model. All of his policies copy the Nordic model. Because he honeymooned in the Soviet Union he’s a Bolshevik? I mean, by that metric Trump is absolutely a totalitarian dictator considering all the nice things he’s said about Kim Jong Un
Yes, this is why it makes sense to vote against Bernie. Because if people vote for him (and for legislators who support that goal), that's the democratic consensus needed to start nationalizing industries alphabetically.
The question is whether or not the previous presidentWeird how "your guy" could never be accused of anything you accuse the "other guy" of.
I wish I wasn't the only NOT blinded by pure partisanship!
In all fairness, it is not out of the realm of possibilities that Trump renames the White House to the Trump House.
Isn't there some requirement that most federal things can only be named after people that are deceased? Assuming that this isn't a figment of my imagination then I would think that this would be evidence that Trump is behaving more like a dictator [wanna be] than adhering to American democratic norms. Or evidence that Trump is now a ghost.
My father-in-law lived in Iran before and after the fall of the Shah. He permanently moved to Oklahoma in 1980 (maybe 79) and became a US citizen. His mother passed last year but prior to that he had visited Iran every year to see her. He has been detained and held at gunpoint in Iranian airports while they tossed his luggage and questioned his loyalty to Iran. He also experienced hostility in the US during the Iran hostage crisis to the point he was scared enough for his family to start telling people he met that he was Mexican. Here is a conversation he had with me while the Senate trial was going on:
We do not live in a dictatorship.
I think that's when we transition to the Corporatocracy where a hedge fund owned shell corporation rules from on high by executive memo.
I can't claim to be world's authority on democratic socialist thought, but what I've read has largely viewed nationalization as a long-term goal that the authors concede to be impractical now. As you know, there is a dissonance between Bernie calling himself a democratic socialist and Bernie advocating programs and usually citing exemplars that suggest he is a social democrat.
Telling that there's crickets from him regarding this.BladeRunner said:
