Government Response To The Coronavirus

[The General 24,587]

Just now, GoBirds said:

He could have summed it up in 2 sentences saying it cost him billions but he loves his country and is glad he did it. Instead we all will never get that 5 minutes of our lives back. 

Agreed.

And the billions thing is made up out of thin air. 

[eoMMan 5,663]

1 minute ago, GoBirds said:

He could have summed it up in 2 sentences saying it cost him billions but he loves his country and is glad he did it. Instead we all will never get that 5 minutes of our lives back. 

You believe that? Billions?

[BobbyLayne 10,892]

Billions and billions

[GoBirds 10,227]

Nailed it with the differences in states and letting them handle best for each situation. 

[Dan Lambskin 13,615]

Didn’t even know there was a Q&A going on, ABC wasn't carrying it 

[BobbyLayne 10,892]

2 minutes ago, eoMMan said:

You believe that? Billions?

$66.1M...pretty close. Probably rounded up.

[Tom Skerritt 2,328]

Trump: “Nobody complained until I came along.”

[GoBirds 10,227]

1 minute ago, eoMMan said:

You believe that? Billions?

Look at how obsessed you all are at hating him, would you ever stay at one of his hotels or do anything that put  in his pocket? 

That’s a significant change for the worse from when he as the rich guy in The Apprentice. 

[lazyike 1,872]

2 minutes ago, eoMMan said:

You believe that? Billions?

Seeing how he was worth a little over 3 billion at the beginning of his Presidency and it has cost him billions and billions is he planning on filing for bankruptcy again?

[eoMMan 5,663]

No stimulus this evening....another bad day on tap for stock market.

[GoBirds 10,227]

5 minutes ago, The General said:

Agreed.

And the billions thing is made up out of thin air. 

He’s shook for sure, and should be as these are unprecedented times.....or at least nothing I’ve seen in my lifetime. 

[cobalt_27 3,076]

1 minute ago, GoBirds said:

He’s shook for sure, and should be as these are unprecedented times.....or at least nothing I’ve seen in my lifetime. 

Saddest part is you fail to see how he has made this all so much worse. 

[eoMMan 5,663]

2 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

Look at how obsessed you all are at hating him, would you ever stay at one of his hotels or do anything that put  in his pocket? 

That’s a significant change for the worse from when he as the rich guy in The Apprentice. 

He didn't get his alleged billions from me before he was President. I'm sure if his hotels are nice enough, people (not all) will look past him personally. 

I actually have a Trump tie, which is one of my more favorite ties.

[Grace Under Pressure 4,249]

They have to pass a bill tonight. Do they not realize this? They can come back and do more. Everyone is totally spooked. Small businesses are literally deciding what to do right now, as is everyone else.

[Tom Skerritt 2,328]

5 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

He’s shook for sure, and should be as these are unprecedented times.....or at least nothing I’ve seen in my lifetime. 

Yup. 

[GoBirds 10,227]

1 minute ago, eoMMan said:

He didn't get his alleged billions from me before he was President. I'm sure if his hotels are nice enough, people (not all) will look past him personally. 

I actually have a Trump tie, which is one of my more favorite ties.

Maybe I’m off but with all the venom and obsession out there I don’t agree on the bolded and think there are many that will go a lifetime after this refusing to do anything to put money in his family’s pockets. I never would have guessed you were a Trump tie guy. 

[dutch 1,404]

50 minutes ago, Da Guru said:

Most of us are watching.  We don`t need a play by play.

You keep posting comments without giving any thought.    You told Joe you would try to be better when you were getting ripped by people who are on your side right?

I'm not watching and much appreciate the play by play.  I do find the whining about it a bit annoying at times but I try to skim past...usually.

Edited March 22, 2020 by dutch

[Tom Skerritt 2,328]

Dow futures down 900 points since Trump started talking. 

[GoBirds 10,227]

1 minute ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

They have to pass a bill tonight. Do they not realize this? They can come back and do more. Everyone is totally spooked. Small businesses are literally deciding what to do right now, as is everyone else.

Are they really not going to pass it? Ugh. 

[The General 24,587]

17 minutes ago, Mr Anonymous said:

Agreed and Trump has asked for this multiple times.

What’s in the bill regarding that the Senate is trying to pass?

[eoMMan 5,663]

Just now, GoBirds said:

Maybe I’m off but with all the venom and obsession out there I don’t agree on the bolded and think there are many that will go a lifetime after this refusing to do anything to put money in his family’s pockets. I never would have guessed you were a Trump tie guy. 

Don't get me wrong...it doesn't have Trump's face on it. It is simply his brand with his name on the inside label. 

Now back on topic.

[GoBirds 10,227]

5 minutes ago, cobalt_27 said:

Saddest part is you fail to see how he has made this all so much worse. 

Disagree, saddest part in my opinion are your blinders and obsession with complaining in here hourly. 

[Sinn Fein 33,994]

2 minutes ago, Tom Skerritt said:

Dow futures down 900 points since Trump started talking. 

Signature moment?

[GoBirds 10,227]

1 minute ago, eoMMan said:

Don't get me wrong...it doesn't have Trump's face on it. It is simply his brand with his name on the inside label. 

Now back on topic.

Let’s be honest.....you cut the label out didn’t you?

[Man In The Box 2,063]

1 minute ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

They have to pass a bill tonight. Do they not realize this? They can come back and do more. Everyone is totally spooked. Small businesses are literally deciding what to do right now, as is everyone else.

They need to take care of the small business owners and the unemployed RIGHT NOW. The rest of us can wait. Or send us all a check and I’ll donate it to my local small business owners. I’m not shocked that they don’t get this though. Politicians all suck

[Sammy3469 10,260]

1 minute ago, Sinn Fein said:

Signature moment?

Too soon  

[Sinn Fein 33,994]

2 minutes ago, The General said:

What’s in the bill regarding that the Senate is trying to pass?

Blank check, basically.

Biggest issue is lack of transparency, and accountability in terms of how the money would be spent - with no reporting due until after the November elections.

[Sinn Fein 33,994]

3 minutes ago, Man In The Box said:

They need to take care of the small business owners and the unemployed RIGHT NOW. The rest of us can wait. Or send us all a check and I’ll donate it to my local small business owners. I’m not shocked that they don’t get this though. Politicians all suck

I honestly don't know who is trying to save small business owners at this point.  It seems the GOP are trying to save big businesses, and the Dems are trying to save consumers/employees.

 

Small Business owners seem to be an under-represented group.

Edited March 22, 2020 by Sinn Fein

[eoMMan 5,663]

3 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

Let’s be honest.....you cut the label out didn’t you?

Let's reach some common ground with a very important message from Jason Kelce:

Link

[Man In The Box 2,063]

Just now, Sinn Fein said:

I honestly don't know who is trying to save small business owners at this point.  It seems the GOP are trying to dave big businesses, and the Dems are trying to save consumers/employees.

 

Small Business owners seem to be an under-represented group.

Yep. I know quite a few and I’m terrified for them. Most work their asses off 7 days a week and are going to get buried. 

[Cowboysfan8 7,768]

7 minutes ago, Tom Skerritt said:

Dow futures down 900 points since Trump started talking. 

You don’t think it had anything to do with the Vote failing bigly?

[Sammy3469 10,260]

1 minute ago, Sinn Fein said:

I honestly don't know who is trying to save small business owners at this point.  It seems the GOP are trying to save big businesses, and the Dems are trying to save consumers/employees.

 

Small Business owners seem to be an under-represented group.

Isn’t part of the House bill basically a forgivable loan to small businesses as long as they keep 90% of the employees or did that go away?

[Apple Jack 4,885]

5 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

Blank check, basically.

Biggest issue is lack of transparency, and accountability in terms of how the money would be spent - with no reporting due until after the November elections.

Lax rules on bailout money.

[GoBirds 10,227]

3 minutes ago, eoMMan said:

Let's reach some common ground with a very important message from Jason Kelce:

Link

He has my vote! Trump could take some notes from him on speaking. 

Edited March 22, 2020 by GoBirds

[The General 24,587]

2 minutes ago, Man In The Box said:

They need to take care of the small business owners and the unemployed RIGHT NOW. The rest of us can wait. Or send us all a check and I’ll donate it to my local small business owners. I’m not shocked that they don’t get this though. Politicians all suck

They don’t all suck. They are trying to figure out a way to allocate trillions of dollars. They need to do this properly.

Saying stuff like “we support the workers” means nothing.

 

[Sinn Fein 33,994]

1 minute ago, Man In The Box said:

Yep. I know quite a few and I’m terrified for them. Most work their asses off 7 days a week and are going to get buried. 

This is probably why its best to get checks in the hands of all people - no means testing.

Start there in a big way, and then see how the consumer spending filters into the economy, and then target specific areas/businesses/industries to bailout.

[Sinn Fein 33,994]

3 minutes ago, Sammy3469 said:

Isn’t part of the House bill basically a forgivable loan to small businesses as long as they keep 90% of the employees or did that go away?

I'll confess ignorance here - not sure where things stand, or what can be compromised into a final bill.

But, that would be a good start, and placing restrictions on stock buy backs for any companies that take bailout money.

[The Ref 4,343]

3 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

I'll confess ignorance here - not sure where things stand, or what can be compromised into a final bill.

But, that would be a good start, and placing restrictions on stock buy backs for any companies that take bailout money.

That’s the frustrating part.   Nobody knows where we stand.

everyone wants to send out cash to people although I did read the GOP wants it to be paid back via next years tax return.

Seems like the Dems and White House are against stock buy backs of any money is loaned

everything else is up in the air

[Tom Skerritt 2,328]

My brother is a bartender with a wife and two kids. He was laid off a couple of days ago. Apparently he is able to apply for unemployment benefits due to virus circumstances. 

[Man In The Box 2,063]

10 minutes ago, The General said:

They don’t all suck. They are trying to figure out a way to allocate trillions of dollars. They need to do this properly.

Saying stuff like “we support the workers” means nothing.

 

They’re arguing over petty ####. Trying to get a one up for their side. All the while, wasting valuable time while people die and small businesses go under. It’s pretty gross. 

[SoBeDad 2,293]

People who are working will tend to save bailout money for a rainy day. I'd like to get the money, but I'm still working and won't put the money in the economy now. On the other hand, one of my daughters quit her job 2 months ago thinking it would be easy to find another one. And my oldest will defend her PhD in August (just postponed from May) and her professors are worried for job prospects for her and others like her. So, more than just the officially unemployed could use a stimulus funds, but how does one decide. There must be a November political strategy for GOP.

[Sinn Fein 33,994]

3 minutes ago, Tom Skerritt said:

My brother is a bartender with a wife and two kids. He was laid off a couple of days ago. Apparently he is able to apply for unemployment benefits due to virus circumstances. 

Unemployment is something else the Feds are going to have to figure out - States are on the hook, but you know that none of them have the budget for the claims that are coming.  We are going to have to share that burden.

[The General 24,587]

Just now, Man In The Box said:

They’re arguing over petty ####. Trying to get a one up for their side. All the while, wasting valuable time while people die and small businesses go under. It’s pretty gross. 

Agreed they should be able to get money out ASAP but I think it’s a little more difficult than what you are saying.

[The General 24,587]

Can someone explain why voting remotely is a thing they are concerned about?

[Cowboysfan8 7,768]

3 minutes ago, The General said:

Can someone explain why voting remotely is a thing they are concerned about?

Because members of Congress are being quarantined 

meta: and I believe voting remotely is against the law and unprecedented 

Edited March 23, 2020 by Cowboysfan8

[BobbyLayne 10,892]

1 minute ago, Sinn Fein said:

Unemployment is something else the Feds are going to have to figure out - States are on the hook, but you know that none of them have the budget for the claims that are coming.  We are going to have to share that burden.

Read today there’s 39 weeks of UI benefits in the package. Not sure exactly how that works, but I remember post 9/11 there were federal extensions (I would get notices of employees we laid off were still collecting...as an aside, it makes the employer UI contribution rate go up.) So like the first 13 weeks will be from the state, and then the Feds will fund 39 weeks.

[dozer 1,623]

40 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

Nailed it with the differences in states and letting them handle best for each situation. 

Especially since he fired the federal pandemic response team and didn’t replace them. 

[Cowboysfan8 7,768]

1 minute ago, dozer said:

Especially since he fired the federal pandemic response team and didn’t replace them. 

Link?

[Sinn Fein 33,994]

Just now, BobbyLayne said:

Read today there’s 39 weeks of UI benefits in the package. Not sure exactly how that works, but I remember post 9/11 there were federal extensions (I would get notices of employees we laid off were still collecting...as an aside, it makes the employer UI contribution rate go up.) So like the first 13 weeks will be from the state, and then the Feds will fund 39 weeks.

Honestly - that seems like a raw deal for the states - but that may just be wishful thinking on my part that 8 weeks from now the masses will be going back to work.

So huge spike/hit for 8 weeks, but then "normal" unemployment by the time you get to week 14.

[The General 24,587]

1 minute ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

Because members of Congress are being quarantined 

meta: and I believe voting remotely is against the law and unprecedented 

Yeah that’s what I don’t get. Not having a way to do this is insane to me.