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Sorry if the truth offended you.  I know you don't get much of it in this bubble.
You didn’t share any truth

 Your part in this exchange is pretty transparent - you make statements and then have nothing to back them up - and then you try to cover for yourself by thinking you have witty replies.

you fail on both counts.

/exchange over, you lost

 
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You didn’t share any truth

 Your part in this exchange is pretty transparent - you make statements and then have nothing to back them up - and then you try to cover for yourself by thinking you have witty replies.

you fail on both counts.

/exchange over, you lost
I'm not sure what's worse - your inability to accept the truth or your revisionist history.  That's what I got from your mumble jumble of a post.

Anyways, I'll take your post as a "W" for me instead, although I wasn't really trying to.  You gave it to me of your own free will.  Thanks!  :thumbup:

 
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Autopsies on two people who died on 6 February and 17 February show they died with Covid-19.
Thanks. This is sad first, their families have learned of this now and probably adds to the tragedy.

Scientifically it likely means the spread is greater than known.

And for Trump it’s problematic because super-simplistically he regularly points to there being no US deaths until the very end of February. This pushes the first death to just 4 days after his primary, maybe sole affirmative action in advance of the stock market dip, the 2/2/20 partial China travel ban.

 
Thanks. This is sad first, their families have learned of this now and probably adds to the tragedy.

Scientifically it likely means the spread is greater than known.

And for Trump it’s problematic because super-simplistically he regularly points to there being no US deaths until the very end of February. This pushes the first death to just 4 days after his primary, maybe sole affirmative action in advance of the stock market dip, the 2/2/20 partial China travel ban.
It also throws some shade on CDC (the "only testing available through CDC at the time" (paraphrasing) line). But Trump and his supporters will just say he didn't know about it. 

That said, it would be very interesting to find out where and how they got infected but likely we'll never know. Wuhan was shut down Jan 23rd, which was the first really big red flag, which is two weeks before the first guy dies. Was he/she in China for Lunar New Year? Community spread?

It also throws some additional light on the Santa Clara antibody study (ies?). If the infection arrived end Jan/early Feb, the R0 may be lower than thought (more time) but then where are the hospitalizations?

 
plasma infusion from a recovered COVD patient. If no immunity ever developed, the plasma-infusion treatment would not work at all -- yet this treatment is known to be effective
thought your post generally a good one,

but has the referenced treatment been proven effective other than anecdotally?

i'm thinking not proven.  at this point how could it be?

EDTA: apologies for being serious in the arguing thread

 
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A few facts:

Despite ramped up testing, USA still only ranks 40th in testing per capita. Ie. at least 39 countries and territories are ramping up as fast or faster than the USA (as a whole. California particularly is moving on testing, it seems, although it is still 1/3 the level of NY)

Soon eclipsing 60k dead from Covid-19 USA is still 14th worst in known deaths per capita. This may change as adding 2k deaths per day looks like the plateau for now

Texas and Georgia are both below the average for USA in testing. Tennessee is above average

 
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The worst thing is it shows SK started testing en masse some time before Feb. 20 and we started in earnest Mar. 21. We had our first cases at the same time.

 
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Im sure our response would have been better if not for all those fake news Noble prize winning journalists POTUS is ranting about today.

 
The worst thing is it shows SK started testing en masse some time before Feb. 20 and we started in earnest Mar. 21. We had our first cases at the same time.
This, combined with the other threats to defund the WHO, not to mention the bad medical advice, is why we are behind the 8 ball. Approaching a million cases by ourselves, roughly a third of total recorded worldwide cases, and deaths upwards of 700 as of 3pm Eastern.

 
"It's funny how DESPERATE the left is to prevent any kind of economic opening.  Are they terrified it will fail - that it will succeed?  If the economy starts humming again, there go any faint hopes for the Democrats in November"

-Dinesh D'Souza on Twitter 4/26

 
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"It's funny how DESPERATE the left is to prevent any kind of economic opening.  Are they terrified it will fail - that it will succeed?  If the economy starts humming again, there go any faint hopes for the Democrats in November"

-Dinesh D'Souza on Twitter 4/26
Can you point one state that has met the Trump administration's phase 1 criteria for re-opening? TIA.

Ya know, before you go all conspiracy theory on us.

 
Got a comment on his opinion or just here to deflect?
Yes. First of all D’Souza is a criminal and I think his motives and analysis are corrupt from the beginning. Secondly opening/closing is strictly a medical issue.  Third, R, D or I electoral based decisions - and even accusations about them - need to be entirely left out of this discussion.

 
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Yes. First of all D’Souza is a criminal and I think his motives and analysis are corrupt from the beginning. Secondly opening/closing is strictly a medical issue.  Third, R, D or I electoral based decisions - and even accusations about them - need to be entirely left out of this discussion.
Fourth, D'Souza is the hackiest political hack that ever hacked.  Everything he says is thru a political lens.  

 
"It's funny how DESPERATE the left is to prevent any kind of economic opening.  Are they terrified it will fail - that it will succeed?  If the economy starts humming again, there go any faint hopes for the Democrats in November"

-Dinesh D'Souza on Twitter 4/26
I'm sensing a tone of partisan hackery devoid of nuance and it's getting worse. Binary thought is lazy and almost always inaccurate. Everybody wants a robust kick-### economy. Look at my state (CO - D Governor) taking the initial steps of opening back up starting tomorrow but in a very measured way and using analytics and an adaptive path forward. Flying blind into "opening the economy" is just a dumb way to proceed when simple but consistent efforts can be made to do the exact same thing utilizing a plan based on data and focused on not stumbling into a greater catastrophe worse than anything we've seen to date, Nobody is terrified of a robust economy  but many are terrified of walking blindly into a spike that tears this Country asunder and shatters any near term hops of getting back to normal. 

 
Right-wing talking heads are a bit like porn stars. They're ubiquitous, interchangeable, and replaceable....they're constantly angling for their next shoot....and they're willing to do (say) whatever you want as long as they get paid.

 
Of all the conservative conspiracy theories that we’ve had to endure over the last several years, the notion that liberals are eager to keep the country shut down in order to defeat Donald Trump might be the worst. 

 
Yes. First of all D’Souza is a criminal and I think his motives and analysis are corrupt from the beginning. Secondly opening/closing is strictly a medical issue.  Third, R, D or I electoral based decisions - and even accusations about them - need to be entirely left out of this discussion.
I forgot that Trump pardoned this hack.

 
I'm sensing a tone of partisan hackery devoid of nuance and it's getting worse. Binary thought is lazy and almost always inaccurate. Everybody wants a robust kick-### economy. Look at my state (CO - D Governor) taking the initial steps of opening back up starting tomorrow but in a very measured way and using analytics and an adaptive path forward. Flying blind into "opening the economy" is just a dumb way to proceed when simple but consistent efforts can be made to do the exact same thing utilizing a plan based on data and focused on not stumbling into a greater catastrophe worse than anything we've seen to date, Nobody is terrified of a robust economy  but many are terrified of walking blindly into a spike that tears this Country asunder and shatters any near term hops of getting back to normal. 
On FB, my DIL's father shared a link about how Americans have had enough! of this Socialist experiment, and who misses Capitalism? so it's time to get our freedom back!  I calmly responded that 55,000 American families would like to get back the loved one who died from the virus, and that without the measures taken, that number could have been 100,000?  200,000?  More?  So ..bigger picture here.  His response was "don't buy the numbers, almost everyone who dies is listed as died with the virus. Remember I work with the staff that knows." (He works maintenance at a hospital.)  He added that we run the risk of other losses, poverty, lost businesses, etc. - which is all true.  But the irritation is his originally framing this in essentially political terms and then the deflection about the numbers.    :wall:

 
On FB, my DIL's father shared a link about how Americans have had enough! of this Socialist experiment, and who misses Capitalism? so it's time to get our freedom back!  I calmly responded that 55,000 American families would like to get back the loved one who died from the virus, and that without the measures taken, that number could have been 100,000?  200,000?  More?  So ..bigger picture here.  His response was "don't buy the numbers, almost everyone who dies is listed as died with the virus. Remember I work with the staff that knows." (He works maintenance at a hospital.)  He added that we run the risk of other losses, poverty, lost businesses, etc. - which is all true.  But the irritation is his originally framing this in essentially political terms and then the deflection about the numbers.    :wall:
And when his theories are proven wrong, and thousands more begin to die, he'll just move on to the next conspiracy.

 
"Three failed coup attempts:

1 - Russian Collusion hoax during campaign

2 - Mueller's sham

3 - Illegitimate impeachment

Do you really think these lunatics wouldn't inflate the mortality rates by underreporting the infection rates in an attempt to steal the election?"

John Cardillo on Twitter on 4/26

 
"Three failed coup attempts:

1 - Russian Collusion hoax during campaign

2 - Mueller's sham

3 - Illegitimate impeachment

Do you really think these lunatics wouldn't inflate the mortality rates by underreporting the infection rates in an attempt to steal the election?"

John Cardillo on Twitter on 4/26
Who?

None of those things were illegitimate or hoaxes or coups...

 
"Three failed coup attempts:

1 - Russian Collusion hoax during campaign

2 - Mueller's sham

3 - Illegitimate impeachment

Do you really think these lunatics wouldn't inflate the mortality rates by underreporting the infection rates in an attempt to steal the election?"

John Cardillo on Twitter on 4/26
Your posts have gone off the deep end lately, but this is a new low for you. You're basically attacking first responders here.

Also, you're stealing @squistion's terrible schtick of reposting your twitter feed without comment.

 
Your posts have gone off the deep end lately, but this is a new low for you. You're basically attacking first responders here.

Also, you're stealing @squistion's terrible schtick of reposting your twitter feed without comment.
Scooter....get a grip. He didn’t attack first responders.

 
Your posts have gone off the deep end lately, but this is a new low for you. You're basically attacking first responders here.

Also, you're stealing @squistion's terrible schtick of reposting your twitter feed without comment.
:sadbanana:

Um, I usually only do that with Daniel Dale or others who are reporting and tweeting about news events in real time, which I don't need to comment on.

 
"Three failed coup attempts:

1 - Russian Collusion hoax during campaign

2 - Mueller's sham

3 - Illegitimate impeachment

Do you really think these lunatics wouldn't inflate the mortality rates by underreporting the infection rates in an attempt to steal the election?"

John Cardillo on Twitter on 4/26
That may be the stupidest thing I've read today.  Thanks for sharing.

 
Jan-April 2018 - 630,000 total deaths   

Jan-April 2020 - 610,000 total deaths

Hospitals receive $39,000 from the U.S. Government for each Coronavirus death - Just lol at NY right now

NYC has had 11,000 Covid deaths. Tokyo, the World's largest and densest city, has had 93. NYC is locked down. Tokyo was never locked down. Both have had the virus for the same amount of time. Why is NYC's death rate 250 times higher than Tokyo's? Something fishy here

 
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"Three failed coup attempts:

1 - Russian Collusion hoax during campaign

2 - Mueller's sham

3 - Illegitimate impeachment

Do you really think these lunatics wouldn't inflate the mortality rates by underreporting the infection rates in an attempt to steal the election?"

John Cardillo on Twitter on 4/26
I know virtually nothing about the first two items, so I'll refrain from commenting.  The impeachment was certainly not illegitimate.  Trump literally admitted doing what he was accused of doing, which is also quite illegal.  Whether one believes it worthy of impeachment can be discussed, but we cannot debate whether A) it was illegal, and B) he did it.

That said, I'm unclear whether he's then accusing hospital staff of under reporting test results or "liberal governors and states" of under reporting.  If the former, I'm just not sure what to say.  If the latter, I'd argue that governors aren't really the ones creating the data.

More to the point, if either political "side" is guilty of under reporting, it's the GOP.  Democrats and liberals have been clamoring ad nausaem for MORE TESTING!  That's right, more tests, especially for asymptomatic people.  That equals a higher infection rate, which equals a lower mortality rate.  So, we can conclude that it's actually the GOP that is inflating the mortality rate by refusing to increase testing.

 
Wow,  a great statement by Boris Johnson: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/27/uk/boris-johnson-downing-street-speech-return-intl-gbr/index.html

Here’s a guy I’ve never been a fan of; I’ve detested his political philosophy. I regarded him basically as a Trump clone. 

But crises like this bring out the truth: we find out who the true leaders are. Forget politics; Johnson is displaying leadership and competence. That’s what we’ve been missing in this country. 

 
Wow,  a great statement by Boris Johnson: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/27/uk/boris-johnson-downing-street-speech-return-intl-gbr/index.html

Here’s a guy I’ve never been a fan of; I’ve detested his political philosophy. I regarded him basically as a Trump clone. 

But crises like this bring out the truth: we find out who the true leaders are. Forget politics; Johnson is displaying leadership and competence. That’s what we’ve been missing in this country. 
No...we’ve just been missing it from Trump.  There’s certainly people like Fauci and many governors that have risen to the occasion. 

 
Wow,  a great statement by Boris Johnson: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/27/uk/boris-johnson-downing-street-speech-return-intl-gbr/index.html

Here’s a guy I’ve never been a fan of; I’ve detested his political philosophy. I regarded him basically as a Trump clone. 

But crises like this bring out the truth: we find out who the true leaders are. Forget politics; Johnson is displaying leadership and competence. That’s what we’ve been missing in this country. 
He still seems hellbent on destroying the UK economy, though. 

What a great guy

:sarcasm:

 
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