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Who's going to tell him?Apparently, people think once they get the vaccine they are immune instantly? Like, they don't understand that the body still has to have time to build antibodies and the like? Really? We're never going to get out of this
Just like when some random clinic has to waste 1,000 vaccines, people that get the virus after getting the vaccine will get lots of press, which is unfortunate.
Yeah....I guess I just underestimate the ignorance of "the people"...which I thought was virtually impossible, but apparently my bar is STILL too high.
I mean, there are people who think vaccines cause autism. Immunity is incorrect, but hardly the craziest misperception out there. Try to be more kind, not everyone is as smart as you.
Most of this world is smarter than me. I am self aware enough to understand that. And yeah, even I know the basics of these things that impact my life directly. Why? Not because I am "smart" but because I take the time to seek the answers. None of these people know my true opinions on their positions. That's being PLENTY "kind" to them in my opinion. As a matter of fact, I struggle to see how I could be any more kind under those circumstances. At some point I'm going to call you dumb for continually burning your hand on a hot stove after being told time and time again that you will get burned if you touch a hot stove. I'm a flawed person who doesn't have eternal grace/patience. I have no problem admitting that
I was thinking about this the other day. At least I didn't have to hear friends/family/people claim this in the Fall. I always approached it the same way I do when somebody brings up politics, and this was WAY before Trump, smile politely and change the subject.
NOT ME!!Most of this world is smarter than me. I am self aware enough to understand that. And yeah, even I know the basics of these things that impact my life directly. Why? Not because I am "smart" but because I take the time to seek the answers. None of these people know my true opinions on their positions. That's being PLENTY "kind" to them in my opinion. As a matter of fact, I struggle to see how I could be any more kind under those circumstances. At some point I'm going to call you dumb for continually burning your hand on a hot stove after being told time and time again that you will get burned if you touch a hot stove. I'm a flawed person who doesn't have eternal grace/patience. I have no problem admitting that
For most subjects I do the same but since it’s a big part of my job I do try to inform them of why they may have gotten sick (takes 2 weeks to be effective, may have been exposed before the shot or side effects of shot may be confused with the flu). My goal isn’t to convince them but to give them all the information so they can make their own decision. Every year I get a number of people who say they didn’t get the flu shot for 10 years because they thought it would give them the flu until someone explained it to them. Most will never change their mind.
I know this means little, but thank you from the bottom of my heart for what you are doing. Risking your health and your sanity working tireless hours day in and day out in an effort to save lives. I know it feels like a losing battle, but you are a hero. And that’s not a cliche. You are a ####### hero.
I will second Bigbottom. Thanks for continuing to show up for us. I can't even imagine how hard a shift in the ER is these days.
We already know the answer to this: no.
I don’t know that out of 50 states that none has put together an efficient distribution system. Are you basing this on facts, or is this just your opinion?
History. In our entire history there hasn’t been a single big government program on this level that has started out even close to efficient. But eventually they figure it out.
My 80-year-old mom got her vaccine at a county vaccination location and the whole process took 30 minutes (including the 15 minutes she had to wait after the shot to make sure she didn’t have a reaction). That said, she benefitted from knowing about the location just minutes after they authorized extending to seniors. Now that the word is out, lines will no doubt be hours long for a while.
So, no factual basis, which is what I’ve always expected from you.
Wow.
Let’s start with better than 5% delivery with no plan for distribution outside of large providers.
As with much of the pandemic policy, the interface between state and federal governments is likely a big part of the problem.
For my state that link takes me to a 65 page plan published in October. As of this weekend, that plan was scrapped for the app and “honor system” once we can get vaccines into some sort of retail supply line.
Arizona has a nice drive thru process that I was very impressed with. But it’s just not being rolled out well. For health care providers they had a pre-registration form you filled out and then they sent you an invite when it was time to schedule your shot. The problem was that they did a poor job getting the word out about the process and then the invites got sent to the junk mail or not at all.
A functional federal govt should have figured this out. No compelling reason why individual states should have their own plans for distribution of vaccines in a pandemic.
Kind of tough when leadership has checked out. Heck, I live an hour from the Pfizer plant in Michigan and don't know anyone who got the vaxx.
My admittedly loose understanding is that a huge amount of the problem is funding. If you want health care workers to administer vaccines 24/7 -- we do want that, right? -- you have to pay them. I seriously doubt that many municipalities have money sitting around to pay for a huge ramp-up of labor expenses. This might be one of those few problems that the federal government might have solved simply by throwing money at it.
Could also support local municipalities with the help of the doctors/nurses in the national guard as well. It would probably pull some of those people from the covid units in their day to day jobs, but this seems to be the long game trying to shift from reactionary to proactive.
We don't have a plan for administering the first doses, how could we have one thinking about the second? I suspect in a month's time when all the second doses come due it's going to be an epic meltdown. IMO, they will have to give priority to those getting their second dose over those just starting to get them. The irony of that whole prospect is the "picking and choosing" aspect of healthcare. Remember when that was used as an excuse to avoid Obamacare? DEATH PANELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Funding is certainly a part of it but I think the biggest reason is just a lack of planning. Between the election, COVID spikes and straight up incompetence, there just isn’t a plan. And if there was a plan, it failed. I’ve helped about two dozen health care workers get theirs because the email invite wasn’t received. Turns out they were all eligible to schedule their appointment a couple weeks ago and just had to login and schedule it. You’d think there would be someone monitoring the invites and noticing that likely thousands aren’t scheduling their appointment.IvanKaramazov said:
Prioritization and a desire for anti vaxxer punishment are going to lead to more deaths.
My hospital gave us a date range to show up and receive the second dose, first-come, first served. My wife and I are due at the end of the week.
