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Government Response To The Coronavirus (11 Viewers)
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parasaurolophus
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Not really. CA cleared a backlog. Led to a spike and then a drop. December 16th record number of cases wasnt real data.
Pretty sure 2 of the last 3 days have been in the top 3 days for cases ever in CA.
sho nuff
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
Welp, going to be a lot of unhappy people on both sides now...
Jeff Stein@JStein_WaPo · 36m
BREAKING: Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) says "absolutely not" to a round of $2,000 stimulus checks
Biden promised to approve $2K checks if Georgia Dems won their Senate races. Pelosi and Schumer also on board
Jeff Stein@JStein_WaPo · 36m
BREAKING: Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) says "absolutely not" to a round of $2,000 stimulus checks
Biden promised to approve $2K checks if Georgia Dems won their Senate races. Pelosi and Schumer also on board
Rich Conway
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The difference is he can't stop the vote from occurring. Schumer would only need to pick up one GOP vote to replace him.
Going to see how strong McConnell remains as a minority leader.
In theory, the GOP should be against additional stimulus under the guise of not expanded the debt. (Never mind what they did when in power - that has no bearing to the position they will take as a minority party.)
AAABatteries
Footballguy
And so it begins.
Manchin has to be one of the top 3-5 most powerful people in the country right now, no?
I am wondering if he tries to form his own little group: Manchin, Murkowski, Collins, Sinema?
And they kind of have final say on any legislation that goes forward in the Senate.
AAABatteries
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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Maybe Romney, Sasse and a couple others mixed in there too. Possibly a more long-lived Gang of Seven kind of thing.
I'd welcome it, if they were more than a blocking bloc. We could solve a lot of real problems.
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Doug B
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Given Manchin's stance against a $2,000 stimulus ... what are his liberal or centrist bona fides? Have to read up on him a little.
EDIT: Third paragraph here lays out a good summary of Manchin's positions. Kind of a hybrid politician -- for instance, he's voted against repealing Obamacare but has spoken on the record about opposing Medicare for All.
EDIT: Third paragraph here lays out a good summary of Manchin's positions. Kind of a hybrid politician -- for instance, he's voted against repealing Obamacare but has spoken on the record about opposing Medicare for All.
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Mister CIA
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Easy for Manchin to disapprove when his constituents consist mostly of affluent elites.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Article discussing a recent study finding that Covid19 will likely affect the brain. This should give pause to those intimating that the U.S. response has been overbearing (or even adequate).
The Commish
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Why? We know that it will permanently impact heart and lungs and we're full steam ahead. You think science and reality are going to change the direction of this thing now?
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I keep waiting for reason to kick in. Ironically irrational of me I suppose. I guess the message needs to be packaged a bit more palatably: You could get Alzheimer's, your kids could have like 30 points shaved off their IQs, etc.
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The Commish
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The Commish
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Alex P Keaton
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Literally had this exact conversation with my wife last night. “What does Biden do if Manchin isn’t on board with $2k checks?!?”
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Blame the GOP of course. You think he didnt already know he was going to oppose?
CR69
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It does say though that H1N1 can also cause issues with the brain and nervous system. I’ve read similar about other flu variants and long term effects with the heart and other organs.
Our daughter’s school is getting ready to move back to in person in a few weeks. We’ve been at home other than essentials since March. I’m tempted to just punt this school year and see what happens in the fall since we’ve already gone this long. Ugh.
Rich Conway
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There have to be at least a couple GOP Senators on record as supporting the checks, though. Only need one.
A bipartisan group that works together to help decide form legislation and likely guard against hyper partisanship on both sides? That sounds like a great for the Senate and Congress to operate.
I believe it already exists - Problem Solver Caucus, I think. They helped create much of the last stimulus. My immediate thought is that we need to elect more people that will join this caucus rather than more loud voices on the fringes.
Alex P Keaton
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I can see why this was so funny to GoBirds.
Wait, no, I can’t. Good contribution to the discussion by him though.
AAABatteries
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To be fair - emojis are the best contributions from some posters.
*Not necessarily GoBirds
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dawgtrails
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parasaurolophus
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parasaurolophus
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I thought it was pretty funny too and I actually thought he intended it to be funny. I thought he was mocking how politicians flip their stance any chance they get that provides them cover. Maybe I was wrong, but also it is just an emoji.
Rich Conway
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Biden won't do anything. I suspect Schumer will find a GOP Senator willing to vote for the check and get enough votes to pass the legislation.
GoBirds
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Rich Conway
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Sometimes, when you find something funny, it helps if you explain what you think is funny. I admit I don't know if any GOP Senators are on record as supporting the $2K checks (Romney? Sasse?). Is it funny that you think I thought there might be one or two? Is it funny that I think they might vote for the $2K check if it comes up?
Also agree on the bolded, just an honest reaction sorry some were triggered
I really don't get where the humor is.
BigJim®
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Well, I'm opposed to the $2,000 checks. Sorry, It goes beyond need.
What I hate even worse though is for proposals I don't support being invisibly filibustered - where legislative leaders are protected from taking unpopular stands. It leaves them running for re-election on non-transparent platforms, or worse, disingenuous lies about what they support. Bills should be introduced, publically debated, possibly passed with compromises and possibly fail transparently. That's how legislation works, and how constituents decide whether a representative is representing. This one will go to the floor for debate, and that is improvement.
JAA
Footballguy
It’s not just about need for the individuals, it’s about stimulating the economy for the sake of businesses.
Drunken Cowboy
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Checks are terrible stimulus.JAA said:
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
100% agreeBigJim® said:
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Good way to probably provide stimulus for some and relief for others depending where people fall.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
How so?
Most people I know that received checks spent most of the money immediately. Whether it was paying rent, tipping an obscene amount on takeout, or gifting the money to others in need - who in turn spent it immediately. Sure, there are people that socked the money away in a savings account, but no matter the stimulus, there is always going to be a subset who do that
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
dawgtrails
Footballguy
I generally spent it on local restaurants and breweries. Oh, and local pot guy too
JAA
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parasaurolophus
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Alex P Keaton
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Real conservatives would want the money to go to individuals, who are then free to spend the money (or save it) however and wherever they choose.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
"Real conservatives" or whatever that means probably wouldnt want a stimulus to go out without a plan to recoup it.
Alex P Keaton
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JAA
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