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so WI .... you said they've not shut down, not worn masks .... because both of those things help covid spread, I assume WI then has what, 10X the covid other states with restrictions have? 20X ?
but Alex P Keaton said "So no, we haven't distanced, shut down and stayed away from each other."
WI is 6th in the country with almost 10,000 cases per 100,000. They trail ND, SD, UT, RI, TN.
I will be the first to say that the midwest right now throws a big middle finger into almost all covid theories out there. I will also be the first to say I am not sure why yet. I also have yet to hear a good explanation from somebody else.
ok but why isnt' WI #1 with 5times or 10times the numbers? if they're being so irresponsible and not doing the things that are preventing covid19 spread ?
of course they're going to say that - I figure Biden and company will take ZERO responsibility for anything on their watch - they'll blame everything on someone else
We were also a weird state in that we didn't have anything state-wide for a bit, but the 2 big population centers had county health departments that were able to enact rules though. I thought for awhile we were getting hammered around Dane Co. and in the LaCrosse area as well. We are probably not as cool to visit in the winter though too.
So you think they’re lying and Trump actually did have a vaccine distribution plan?
I was just going by this https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html#states
You are right, we are not stopping it with distancing and masks. But how many people would be dead if we didn't even try those things?
Thats weird. They have 50k more cases listed than worldometers. So I went to our state data and that matches worldometers.
well that's the thing
as its been reported - we don't really know anything more than what CNN / FOX etc tells us
Have you read this thread? You think he doesn’t represent at least 35% of the country?
I try not to think about how many people he represents. Even so it’s a fringe point of view.
How good is the compliance to the mandate? What about amount of personal travel? We know that's a huge driver of transmission --> personal visits in others' homes.
So Biden people are saying Trump people didn't have a plan. Do you think everything they say is factual or is there some possibility this is just politics?
I think Biden's team will push to stop counting probable deaths as covid19 deaths. Without those being counted, the actual covid19 deaths will dramatically decrease
Hopefully we can get to a point where yes, a grain of salt and all. But Trump has lied so many times that it is hard to play the both sides thing
Under normal circumstances, I would say this is just a case of an incoming administration trying to lower the bar and dial back expectations a bit.
My wife runs a pre-school in a highly populated area, and it is essentially the same scenario. They've had little outbreaks here and there and have had to close a classroom for a few days due to contact tracing, outside family, etc., but have yet to shut down the entire school. Pretty damn impressive all things considered, and mask wearing is mandatory for everyone. The kids have been awesome about it.
Can you agree there are typical lies told by politicians and the frequency in which they tell them - and then there is/was Trump?
Let me know if you can find a similar breakdown.
Not to the same degree, not with the same frequency. The constant false equivalency needs to stop.
In my experience not really. I would bet most transmission occurs in situations where mask compliance has a small delta among areas and is pretty much universally low.
This is pretty damning if true. I was hopeful that Trump team wouldn't have completely bouched this piece of vaccine as Operation Warp Speed has been pretty good (so far one vaccine out of it).
Which is why the CDC is asking people that have received the vaccine to continue wearing masks. The thought is if people that haven't received the vaccine see more and more people not wearing masks, they will stop wearing them too.
