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I agree that there are some people for whom this might be true but I think repeated messages that 99% of the dead and hospitalized are unvaccinated might persuade at least some people.
Does the math say anything about the death rate going forward? Assuming we get to immunity, particularly in the elderly, so we see a well under average death rate for the next few years?
release the facts on obesity over and over and over and how covid deaths are tied to obesity and ...
well absolutely the vast majority of covid deaths were older than 50 years old and most above 60-65 and in poor health
Utterly absurd. Putting giant, morbidly obese models on magazine covers and pasting it with "body positivity"
Almost.
I noticed while shopping with my lady this past weekend the plus sized models in stores .... not many slim healthy models anymore
Beyond even "plus" sized. Heck that's a good representation of the American population. I'm talking about hugely, morbidly fat people..In bikinis on magazine covers, telling all the little girls (and some boys) that isn't not only OK to be huge, you might even be a model too!!!! More Pepsi please!!!
Wait....Didn't we JUST do that. Didn't we just lock everyone down to stop the spread? That didn't work? This board has told me that worked, well. And masks...lots and lots of masks..Multiple masks actually. One didn't cut it so we went with two. I was told over and over, masks save lives. Not true anymore?
No. We didn't do that. We never had real lockdowns and we certainly never let the younger folks go about their lives while doing something explicit for the elderly.
Oh..So the stay at home order in Michigan here was voluntary. I must have missed that when it was announced.
You are misunderstanding.
I don't want to get hung up on that. I would like to hear a proposal on how to "protect the vulnerable and sending the virus through the population that had much lower mortality rates." How would that actually work?
One thing that comes to mind in hindsight is that we probably shouldn't have kicked all of the college students off of campuses. It was a reasonable decision at the time, but it may have been counterproductive. A healthy population that is largely self-contained is just the sort of demographic that could help develop community immunity without a huge death and health care toll. Instead, we potentially seeded outbreaks all around the country by sending the kids out into the wild. It's tricky because schools will have vulnerable faculty and staff, so you have to somehow try to isolate them from the students, but it's definitely a win if you have a large amount of natural immunity in the student population before you send them back across the country.
It will be interesting to see what Kroger and Walmart do. Washington is the only state that Kroger hadn't lifted the mask mandate and I know Walmart was still trying to enforce masks last weekend. We need a couple of the big guys to say no to the "strong suggestion" and most of the little guys will follow suit. When we get some options I'm going to choose to spend at places that do not require masks and let those that do know they are loosing my business. So glad that some of my watering holes that have already ditched the masks aren't going to have to revert back.
I think they should call it Livebetes. that way, instead of moping around saying, "oh no, I have diabetes", they can say "Look out world, I've got livebetes! Here I come!"
. Being told Walmart dropped mask requirements here once the state finally decided to follow CDC guidelines. I'll start buying groceries from there if Kroger doesnt follow suit. 
From your link, where it is in large font and boldfaced:
We didn't need hindsight for this. We knew it at the time. It was discussed at length (in here and in the real world). The decision to send college kids home from campus was one of the single dumbest things we did -- and it didn't take a genius-level IQ to figure that out in the moment. Very very frustrating that we botched that part.
Right now it's only strongly encouraged in King County. The news reported that that weak kneed Dr was thinking about making it a mandate.
We tried to protect the elderly and high risk people and that lasted a few months before people decided they just wanted to go back to normal. And we didn’t even succeed in keeping them safe.
If you want to see how well a true lockdown and mask mandate works look at Singapore. I’m not suggesting that we should have done that but it’s obvious if we did do it that our cases and deaths would be much lower. But there’s a lot of trade offs to doing it that make for a good argument whether we should have.
Unbelievable isn’t it? And they act proud of it. Trump and his followers have spent the last year and a half promoting ignorance over science, lies over facts, distrust of public health officials...and they’re proud.
The state you live in is ignoring science right now and you're complaining about Trump supporters.
I am. They’re the ones refusing to take the vaccine, refusing to bring us to herd immunity, refusing to wear masks. Obviously not every Trump supporter but the ones who reject science are really creating a problem for the rest of America.
snowflakes, crazy Hillary, sleepy Joe, lamestream media, fake news, commie pigs, etc.
