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Nasal 'swab'?I've had a rapid Covid test 3 times now in the last year and just yesterday my first PCR test - that thing hurt like a MF'er. My eyes poured water and it caused a big coughing fit which resulted in me ripping a fart in front of the doc.I hope to never go through that again.
I read last night that the new data was collected in Massachusetts. Let me see if I can scare up the link.
EDIT - Here it is (ABC News, 7/29/2021):
But within weeks, health officials seemed to be on to something much bigger. The outbreak quickly grew to the hundreds and most of them appeared to be vaccinated.
As of Thursday, 882 people were tied to the Provincetown outbreak. Among those living in Massachusetts, 74% of them were fully immunized, yet officials said the vast majority were also reporting symptoms. Seven people were reported hospitalized.
The initial findings of the investigation led by the Massachusetts Department of Public Health, in conjunction with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, seemed to have huge implications.
Makes sense. There is value in the data collected from a vaccine-naive population. Without that ... you would be less sure that being vaccinated made a difference.
This has happened in other places, too. Even in India, with a low percentage of vaccinated people ... Delta lingered longer in India than other places (e.g. the UK), but still died down after a few months.
Along the same lines we don't have a bunch of unvaccinated people, we should just call them the control group.
I certainly hope that is the case. Then we just have to hope that future variants are less contagious/less dangerous.
Not to be pedantic, but there’s a heck of a lot more than that:
Those are exponents, so each person peaks at a billion to 100 billion viruses, with many more replication cycles (and mutation chances) over the course of infection. Fortunately, our immune system also works in big numbers:
They would be much better off spending that money to upgrade the HVAC system in just one school building.
People aren't on the fence anymore. Those who claim to are ALL making inconsistent arguments. Every single one of them that I've seen and interacted with are citing debunked narratives as their reasons for their alleged "concerns". NONE of these people are interested in learning anything outside of what they were told a year ago.
Which patterns? I can dig it up again, but I’m aware of at least one population study in Denmark which showed breakthrough infections occur at a much higher rate in people previously infected than we’re seeing with the mRNA vaccines.
The hitch is that India's post-Delta case rate is still triple what it was pre-COVID.
Delta is confounding things.
I like to think that people who are not vaxed because they don't want to be subjects of an experiment are actually volunteering to be the part of the control group
Way too early to say wrt delta, though one could probably make an educated guess based on how many of delta’s mutations occur in the receptor binding domain targeted by the vaccines.
This will be a tricky one for DeSantis. The Mouse is very powerful - he’ll have sound bites and talk a good game to appease his side of the aisle but I don’t see him taking them on in court.
amusement parks are already exempt from his order prohibiting companies from requiring vaccinations.
There are many areas simply ignoring DeSantis and just daring him to sue I guess. This will go down as one of the many policies he spits out that makes a good headline, but ultimately isn't followed through on or has no real teeth in terms of penalty. We've talked about this a bit in the Florida Politics thread, but that's about where this will go. Companies, counties and municipalities will find a way to make it uncomfortable for the unvaccinated outside of masks if that's what they feel is necessary. Look at what cruise lines like Celebrity are doing for instance.
My FIL just got tested and came back positive.
There have been outliers. Good news is because of the vaccine his symptoms should be less. Such a huge % of hospital Covid patients are the unvaccinated now so yes, he stands a much better chance because of it. Prayers are with him.
There were peaks in COVID cases in April & July 2020, and there was the winter surge in cases. Each were correlated with big but lagging increase in deaths. There was an April 2021 minisurge in cases, but no corresponding increases in deaths. So far, it seems this latest surge in cases is causing a big surge in hospitalizations, but not a big increase in deaths, but it's early. This is from eyeballing the curves in worldometers
Unvaxxed % should have been provided for context. Looks like 14 millionish infections over same time frame so maybe 9%?
Oh, no doubt. Just goes to show what excrement journalism you get when it comes to reporting statistics, even from a huge outfit like NBC.
I looked into this some more and best I can come up with was a doctor on youtube saying it should be available by the end of August.
(time out)
Nice. Now do visitors over the age of (where we at, 15 now? 12?) next. No shot? No entry.
