Stealthycat
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his message used to be no shot mandates and get vaccinated and have a very very low chance of getting covid and no more masks to be worn
Joe's messages changes - a lot
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his message used to be no shot mandates and get vaccinated and have a very very low chance of getting covid and no more masks to be worn
Joe's messages changes - a lot
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
More vaccinated people get Delta than say, pre-Delta
Very few end up hospitalized relative to unvax’d folks
Very few die relative to unvax’d folks
We know this. It’s factual. Tons of evidence out there. Yet - you and others continue to spread misinformation. Why?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
It’s so weird. Changing as the virus changes. Changing as the science changes. Bizarre.
Keep blaming the public all you want, Joe ran on being able to bring us together, 50 years in politics. FACT.
1 - What happened to 70% and herd immunity? Flip flop Fauci said it had moved to 85% this weekend during his weekly publicity tour.
2 - What happened to getting credit for natural antibodies like other countries do?
James Daulton
Footballguy
lmfao
You're right. It's Joe's fault the anti-vaxxers won't get the jab. Mabye he should mandate it...oh wait...
The rolling, laughing emoji squad in here would find fault no matter what Joe does.
We anti-Trumpers have universally said Trump gets credit for providing the framework for the creation of the vaccine. The rolling, laughing emoji squad have never said a single positive thing about Joe.
The Commish
Footballguy
You'll likely not like the answers you get here. Here in the PSF a million doses in a month is the "same trajectory" as a million a day.Trump set a goal of 20M jabs by December 20th, for those holding Biden so accountable for missing by a couple of %'s, how'd ya boy Trump do...
Remember how Trump had states fighting over PPE? How about how Trump got the jab in private?
But SURE, the jab rollout under Trump would have been JUST AS GOOD...lol
The Commish
Footballguy
shove shove moooooooooove 
Joe can't even pronounce it.
He tells all people to wear masks when indoors and around other people. Finishes speech and walks off with Momala and Flip Flop without his mask on.
Horrible messaging.
He tells all people to wear masks when indoors and around other people. Finishes speech and walks off with Momala and Flip Flop without his mask on.
Horrible messaging.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
ok but you cannot count all the tens of millions who got the vaccine who were NEVER at risk
like anyone under 18 - you can't count them because literally it almost never seriously affects kids
you can throw out pretty much anyone under 35 who's healthy too - they're at a 0.001 % chance or something at dying of covid
you cannot count all those people
nor can you count pro athletes who are physically fit - they don't die of covid with exceptionally rare exceptions
now, take all the obese people and elderly and those susceptible to viruses who have had the shots and compare them apples to apples with obese people and elderly and those susceptible to viruses and THEN you'd have a much better example of facts, evidence and information
the longer this goes, the more deaths from people having the shots .... and we can discuss all the why's of the higher and higher % rates of people dying AFTER having the shots ..... but if you don't think its real, you're not paying attention IMO
Fully vaccinated people made up 43% of coronavirus infections identified in the week starting Oct. 24, according to the most recent weekly state breakthrough data. The 64 COVID-19 deaths among vaccinated people that week outnumbered the 53 among unvaccinated people. Minnesota
42% of Illinois COVID-19 deaths last week were fully vaccinated people by Jakob Emerson Monday, November 1st 2021
"From Aug 23 - Oct 18, 32% of the 405 deaths among confirmed COVID cases were in fully vaccinated individuals," a Maryland
Sand
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The bar for horrible messaging was set pretty low by the previous.Joe can't even pronounce it.
He tells all people to wear masks when indoors and around other people. Finishes speech and walks off with Momala and Flip Flop without his mask on.
Horrible messaging.
-fish-
Footballguy
You can't even spell variant, rocket scientist:Joe can't even pronounce it.
He tells all people to wear masks when indoors and around other people. Finishes speech and walks off with Momala and Flip Flop without his mask on.
Horrible messaging.
OMICRON VARRIENT!
Now they're making it sound like something from a Transformers movie.
The Commish
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
James Daulton
Footballguy
lol, you can't spend the last 5 years telling us that approval ratings are fake, and then go right to quoting approval ratings to fit your agenda...well, you kind of did with the unemployment rate pre-Trump (FAKE) and during Trump (100% ACCURATE).
Have at least a little bit of consistency friend.
waiver wire
Footballguy
there is 2 cases in canada and 2 in australia as of yesterday
so odds are there are some in the US
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
BTW, the UK now proposing reducing the period between the 2nd jab and the booster down from 6 months to 3 months. 
the moops
Footballguy
Such a terrible attempt at shtick.
People like this, are the reason there is vaccine hesitancy https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1465475211231318018?s=20
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Someone no one has heard of, speaking today - vs - Joe Biden speaking in the early day of the pandemic. JFC
Your shtick couldn't carry my shtick's stick.
the moops
Footballguy
Can you point to words, in context, that Joe Biden used in the early days of the pandemic that caused vaccine hesitancy?
sho nuff
Footballguy
By saying he would follow the doctors? Do we once again need to post his entire comments?
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Your stats are misleading. As the percentage of fully vaccinated people rises, the percentage of deaths in this group compared to unvaccinated will also rise. I believe Maryland in now 2/3's vaccinated. That means that 33% of the population (unvaccinated) is accounting for 68% of the deaths during that cherry-picked time. I am hoping you don't see this as a good reason not to get the shot.Stealthycat said:
Take a longer look at Maryland.
Max Power
Footballguy
Uptick in what? The Omicron symptoms are entirely different than Delta. South Africa has put out people with Omi should treat themselves at home
Philo Beddoe
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Rich Conway
Footballguy
Mr. Ngo clearly skipped over the "in context" part of that request. Those videos are selectively edited to remove key context. It's what Andy Ngo does.
Philo Beddoe
Footballguy
Yup Rich we know already. Every time a Democrat says something dumb, it is taken out of context.
Max Power
Footballguy
The more common symptoms for Omi are extreme fatigue, headaches and heart inflammation/palpitations. Per South Africa, the symptoms are mild and can be treated at home.
The Moderna CEO has already stated vaccine effectiveness against Omicron will drop significantly. Which is probably why the first 4 confirmed cases were in vaccinated people.
supermike80
Footballguy
I do wonder. Michigan's case rate has skyrocketed. And there are confirmed cases in Canada. Of course, without a second of hesitation I believe cases are in the US, and I wonder if they are all over my state.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Pfizer probably wrote Joe and company really big checks because that’s what they really care about.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
but you don't know if the unvaccinated deaths are elderly, compromised, morbidly obese .... those people the shot's are not going to help much anyway
tell me, the people NOT dying who had the shots .... what age group? what % chances did they have of dying anyway?
you can't honestly take people who are 99.999% chance not going to die of covid, give them a shot and then say look, they didn't get covid and die !
they wasn't going to anyway
Stealthycat
Footballguy
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/pfizer-inc/summary?id=D000000138
about twice the money donated to Biden / Democrats
rich getting richer like Biden/Democrats promised right ? :(
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Aw, you were thisclose to guessing right.sho nuff said:
the moops
Footballguy
Total spent was 53.8% for democrats, 43.55% for republicans.
As always, look beyond the first page/headline
Stealthycat
Footballguy
its more than that IMO
and its not all a Democrat thing, Republicans pay back too ... they line the pockets of those who supported them
my problem is Democrats pretend they are the champions of the little guy and fight the rich .... they don't do that
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
its about double donated to Democrats vs Republicans
throw it into an excel
$864,270 Democrats
$484,930 Republicans
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
This has been studied relentlessly. Israel releases info on this topic basically weekly. It isn’t a debate anymore — you are multiples more likely to get hospitalized or die if you are unvax’d.
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