fightingillini 712 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Stat Correction said: Used him to fill in for Lamar during his bye this week. Seriously contemplating leaving him in there permanently. If he can start stacking together some wins, he will be in the ROY conversation. I would trade Lamar and roll the dice with Herbert. At worst Herbert is a low end QB1, and we saw his upside which is through the roof. Lamar is still very good, but we have seen BAL take their foot off the gas when the game is out of hand. He is past his bye as well. Herbert will help win a lot of titles this year, and will easily be one of the waiver wire pickups of the year. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Judge Smails 3,593 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Owner in our league has Lamar and Herbert. He’s shopping Lamar big time. What Herbert is doing is Dan Marino-light impressive. Sky is the limit. Kid is unflappable, has a huge arm, greets touch and can run. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelwind 375 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Week 7 looked more like a pass oriented game plan with less conservative running drives. I wonder if Lynn made the adjustment based on Herbert's strengths. Because Jackson and Kelley sure aren't effective running the ball - part of it is their oline. We'll see moving forward. If the pass heavy game plan sticks, oh boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gr00vus 11,814 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, BoltBacker said: It's not meant to be negative at all. I just wonder if he'll be able to stay healthy. I have no confidence in telesco having the will to build a line to protect him. He takes a lot of hits which is fine when you are half a dozen games into your career, less so when the seasons start piling up. Even in that KC game if you go back and watch you wonder, "Why is he taking those big hits that he doesn't have to?". He definitely needs to learn how to avoid hits when running for sure. I've seen multiple times he's actually lead with his throwing shoulder when trying to run through defenders. Bad idea. Edited October 26, 2020 by Gr00vus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deamon 5,312 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Least favourite player in the NFL. I hate that he looks good and hope it ends soon. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 801 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Deamon said: Least favourite player in the NFL. I hate that he looks good and hope it ends soon. That's funny. Every time I see the used now I picture Keenan Allen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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ffguru56 8 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, fightingillini said: I would trade Lamar and roll the dice with Herbert. At worst Herbert is a low end QB1, and we saw his upside which is through the roof. Lamar is still very good, but we have seen BAL take their foot off the gas when the game is out of hand. He is past his bye as well. Herbert will help win a lot of titles this year, and will easily be one of the waiver wire pickups of the year. I drafted him in dynasty so I obviously hope this is evidence that he is Dan Marino-light but, to play devil's advocate, I think the true test will be year 2. It's obviously very promising to see a rookie play the way he has but other rookies have done well and then have ultimately faltered (re: Baker Mayfield). Perhaps it's a mental aspect to the game that offers (for some) a rookie outbreak but then they lose it afterwards. Perhaps it's tape that coaches review to understand that QB's nuances and so defenses can attack them the subsequent year that prevent a continued growth and eliminating the excitement of their Year 1 pop, since good NFL QBs dictate the play on the field instead of simply being on the fortunate end of solely a good OL, quality coaching, or bad coaching from their opposition etc. I guess I'm just saying don't count your chickens before they hatch but I'll admit that I'm very excited to own him as well, especially since it's my only heir to an aging Matt Ryan. Here's hoping he pans out! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
humpback 1,106 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ffguru56 said: I drafted him in dynasty so I obviously hope this is evidence that he is Dan Marino-light but, to play devil's advocate, I think the true test will be year 2. It's obviously very promising to see a rookie play the way he has but other rookies have done well and then have ultimately faltered (re: Baker Mayfield). Perhaps it's a mental aspect to the game that offers (for some) a rookie outbreak but then they lose it afterwards. Perhaps it's tape that coaches review to understand that QB's nuances and so defenses can attack them the subsequent year that prevent a continued growth and eliminating the excitement of their Year 1 pop, since good NFL QBs dictate the play on the field instead of simply being on the fortunate end of solely a good OL, quality coaching, or bad coaching from their opposition etc. I guess I'm just saying don't count your chickens before they hatch but I'll admit that I'm very excited to own him as well, especially since it's my only heir to an aging Matt Ryan. Here's hoping he pans out! Baker Mayfield didn't do this well. Very few have. Tristan H. Cockcroft @SultanofStat · 22h Most fantasy points by a quarterback in his first five NFL starts: 130.4 Deshaun Watson 128.4 Cam Newton 125.8 Justin Herbert 125.7 Patrick Mahomes 112.2 Daunte Culpepper Point remains, it's still early, but he looks really, really good, and it's not like his supporting cast is amazing or anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fightingillini 712 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ffguru56 said: I drafted him in dynasty so I obviously hope this is evidence that he is Dan Marino-light but, to play devil's advocate, I think the true test will be year 2. It's obviously very promising to see a rookie play the way he has but other rookies have done well and then have ultimately faltered (re: Baker Mayfield). Perhaps it's a mental aspect to the game that offers (for some) a rookie outbreak but then they lose it afterwards. Perhaps it's tape that coaches review to understand that QB's nuances and so defenses can attack them the subsequent year that prevent a continued growth and eliminating the excitement of their Year 1 pop, since good NFL QBs dictate the play on the field instead of simply being on the fortunate end of solely a good OL, quality coaching, or bad coaching from their opposition etc. I guess I'm just saying don't count your chickens before they hatch but I'll admit that I'm very excited to own him as well, especially since it's my only heir to an aging Matt Ryan. Here's hoping he pans out! Dynasty is a little trickier. I was talking about redraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJackson10 2,910 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ffguru56 said: I drafted him in dynasty so I obviously hope this is evidence that he is Dan Marino-light but, to play devil's advocate, I think the true test will be year 2. It's obviously very promising to see a rookie play the way he has but other rookies have done well and then have ultimately faltered (re: Baker Mayfield). Perhaps it's a mental aspect to the game that offers (for some) a rookie outbreak but then they lose it afterwards. Perhaps it's tape that coaches review to understand that QB's nuances and so defenses can attack them the subsequent year that prevent a continued growth and eliminating the excitement of their Year 1 pop, since good NFL QBs dictate the play on the field instead of simply being on the fortunate end of solely a good OL, quality coaching, or bad coaching from their opposition etc. I guess I'm just saying don't count your chickens before they hatch but I'll admit that I'm very excited to own him as well, especially since it's my only heir to an aging Matt Ryan. Here's hoping he pans out! Baker is a completely different thing. I think Baker has matured a lot more then Ioriginally thought he'd do in the NFL. However Baker's issues were always pocket awareness and high passes that were gonna lead to picks. Baker will have a huge game once in awhile but he's also gonna look very very avg a lot of times. He's incredible inconsistent and he plays for CLEV which isn't great. Herbert has the better weapons and if they can fix that offensive line look out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,003 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 Justin Herbert Got His First Start Unexpectedly, But Here's How He Earned the Job Full-Time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,003 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 Chargers rookie QB Justin Herbert is beating defenses at a historic rate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,003 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Justin Herbert's long-ball skills already paying dividends for the Chargers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyoun1e 896 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Herbert officially my lone QB unless something drastically changes here. Started with Brees, then streamed Herbert, then started considering Wentz, Bridgewater, Burrow this week on waivers...and I asked myself...why? Why burn another roster slot? Schedule looks good. Herbert seems to have a decent floor with his running ability and isn't such a gunslinger that I see a 3 INT game coming. I'm all in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Bradcanon 1,434 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, kyoun1e said: Herbert officially my lone QB unless something drastically changes here. Started with Brees, then streamed Herbert, then started considering Wentz, Bridgewater, Burrow this week on waivers...and I asked myself...why? Why burn another roster slot? Schedule looks good. Herbert seems to have a decent floor with his running ability and isn't such a gunslinger that I see a 3 INT game coming. I'm all in. Same. Traded away Lamar. I hope Denver manages to score some points this weekend to keep Herbert going for 4 quarters. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NajehHejan 252 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I’m seriously considering playIng Herbert at Denver over Lamar vs Pitt. Must win for me as I’m 2-5 and can’t afford a loss, I think I’m throwing caution to the wind and doing it. What do I have to lose! Slightly better matchup. Could see Bal-Pitt being a low scoring slug fest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stat Correction 127 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, NajehHejan said: I’m seriously considering playIng Herbert at Denver over Lamar vs Pitt. I'm doing that exact thing, and not thinking twice about it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jail 53 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) As a Charger fan this game makes me very nervous. Should be a win, but thats when they end up pulling a massive choke. They tried to give the game away to the freaking Jaguars last week. And I don't feel good about a Fangio defense against a rookie QB now that Fangio has a lot of film on him. On the other hand I think that if Herbert gets through this game just as productive I will be very happy. Edited October 31, 2020 by Jail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teezee 47 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Top 3 deep ball thrower behind Russ and Patty. So fun to watch.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushHour 801 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Unattainable if you don't own him already in dynasty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aznflyer14 117 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Man, it's pretty galling that Herbert couldn't earn a consistent W when his team's defense couldn't protect the lead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bolldpt 54 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Wasn't able to watch it. Only on gamecast on phone. How did he look? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tommyGunZ 4,626 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, bolldpt said: Wasn't able to watch it. Only on gamecast on phone. How did he look? Brilliant. Great anticipation and patience on a TD strike to Keenan. Several other great throws. Hits targets on stride and throws beautiful spirals. Can flick it on a rope for 30-40 yards. Total package. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Bradcanon 1,434 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Man the Chargers are good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. All systems go as far as Herbert as QB1. LV, @Mia, NYJ up next. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
da_budman 290 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 So whats this guy worth if you are tring to trade for him from another owner has another good option? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,003 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Justin Herbert was added to the Chargers' Thursday injury report with a throwing shoulder issue, practicing in full. It is almost certainly nothing to worry about, but it is worth passing along that the Chargers at least saw fit to list their quarterback after he was not on Wednesday's report. Headed into a plum Sunday matchup with the Raiders, be sure to double check Herbert's status on Friday and Sunday. He is a top 10 option for Week 9. Nov 5, 2020, 6:37 PM ET Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,003 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Quote Chargers QB Justin Herbert (shoulder) was removed from the team's injury report. Herbert on Thursday popped up on the injury report with a throwing shoulder injury. He seems to be OK and ready to go for Sunday against the Raiders. Averaging 303 passing yards on 37.8 attempts per game, Herbert is a low-end QB1 against Vegas' middling pass defense. SOURCE: Glibert Manzano on Twitter Nov 6, 2020, 3:49 PM ET Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helaire-ious 76 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Has Herbert fever taken over? I tried to get him in a deal where I would be sending Lamar to his owner & insta-reject for him...I tried a few different variations too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JFS171 838 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Helaire-ious said: Has Herbert fever taken over? I tried to get him in a deal where I would be sending Lamar to his owner & insta-reject for him...I tried a few different variations too! I was contemplating offering Lamar for Herbert in dynasty ... wasn’t sure if I was overreacting or if a week or two from now this won’t even be possible. It may not be possible now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King of the Jungle 1,381 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Helaire-ious said: Has Herbert fever taken over? I tried to get him in a deal where I would be sending Lamar to his owner & insta-reject for him...I tried a few different variations too! It has taken over....however Lamar is not proving to be improving as a passer which is the longevity trait of a good FF QB. I would take the risk and put my chips with Herbert as of today even though that opinion may be looked at as premature. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
humpback 1,106 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Tristan H. Cockcroft @SultanofStat Justin Herbert's 170.4 fantasy points are the third-most by a quarterback through his first seven career starts (since at least 1950), and had Donald Parham Jr. controlled that would-be touchdown catch at game's end, Herbert would currently stand atop the list. 8:01 PM · Nov 8, 2020 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zeeshan2 350 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 should have 3 TDs; Herbie is a stud Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyoun1e 896 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Not loving the Miami matchup at all. He's due to regress (a little) especially if M. Williams is out. Flores and that D are no joke. They know how to scheme. Hitched my wagon a few weeks ago after dropping Brees, but may explore options this week (like picking Brees back up vs. SF). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Bradcanon 1,434 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I don't like the matchup either but the 250/2 floor would seem to be intact given that they will have to score and the LAC cant run the ball right now. I am not crazy about it, but I am starting him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
humpback 1,106 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Herbert is essentially match-up proof at this point and Miami certainly isn't scary. They've been lit up multiple times this year including yesterday. Not thinking twice about starting him this (and every) week. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Faust 5,003 Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 Even Justin Herbert’s Historic Rookie Campaign Can’t Save the Chargers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetMaxx 1,050 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Striking me as a Jeff George type. All numbers, no wins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fear The Turtle 302 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, JetMaxx said: Striking me as a Jeff George type. All numbers, no wins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4GCY69cn3A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,083 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 43 minutes ago, JetMaxx said: Striking me as a Jeff George type. All numbers, no wins You can’t be serious 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loser 217 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 11:10 AM, da_budman said: So whats this guy worth if you are tring to trade for him from another owner has another good option? I just traded Gibson for him with Ryan (who I'm not super excited about going forward anyway) on bye. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JetMaxx 1,050 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/9/2020 at 9:26 PM, JetMaxx said: Striking me as a Jeff George type. All numbers, no wins Another loss 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fred_1_15301 5,396 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, JetMaxx said: Another loss You're right - he probably sucks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,083 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Oh no, I saw the terrible news. Time to sell in dynasty, that hair was a huge part of his appeal. Edited November 18, 2020 by Ilov80s 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four 673 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Traded away Lamar. Rolling with this guy the rest of the way! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jail 53 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Ilov80s said: Oh no, I saw the terrible news. Time to sell in dynasty, that hair was a huge part of his appeal. 🤣 man he looks so young. Crazy that he is just 22. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,083 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jail said: 🤣 man he looks so young. Crazy that he is just 22. I’ve ever seen a player lose so much swag over night 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzy 801 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Ilov80s said: I’ve ever seen a player lose so much swag over night My god! Are there no mirrors at the LAC facilities? And he let the equipment manager cut his hair? I saw this thread last night and figured, "Ah, how bad can it be?" Then I saw him on TV and all I could hear were Dueling Banjos! Edited November 19, 2020 by Dizzy 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IHEARTFF 1,042 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dizzy said: My god! Are there no mirrors at the LAC facilities? And he let the equipment manager cut his hair? I saw this thread last night and figured, "Ah, how bad can it be?" Then I saw him on TV and all I could here were Dueling Banjos! Ok, wow that is bad. Hope he can recover from that to continue his great play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Bradcanon 1,434 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Quote Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN With Brian Poole on IR, Pierre Desir cut and now Bless Austin dealing with a neck issue, Jets cornerbacks are: Rookie Bryce Hall Undrafted rookie Lamar Jackson Undrafted rookie Javelin Guidry Arthur Maulet #TakeFlight 11/19/20, 10:45 AM 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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