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FBG Gardening Thread - 2024 Finally time to start seeds indoors in the northeast! (8 Viewers)

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I haven’t had a lot of luck the last few years. 2 years ago it started raining in the spring and didn’t stop til fall.

Last yr I had major bug issues.

Over the years I’ve grown a lot of different vegetables. I’ve learned that the best way for me to go, is to only grow what we eat fresh. Peas, green beans, Brussels Sprouts etc that need to be picked pretty much every day once they start coming then either canned or blanched and frozen is ALOT of work and in the end doesn’t taste much different than what I can buy cheap in the grocery store.


This year I bought a seed starting kit https://www.homedepot.com/p/Burpee-36-Cell-Self-Watering-Greenhouse-Kit-95036/203110194 and started seeds indoors for the first time. I planted poblano, Anaheim and cubanelles. These are my favorite peppers to eat and their plants can’t be found at the greenhouses here. That kit worked great. The instructions were to set it in a sunny window but I bought a cheap led light and run it 12 hours or so every day. Anyway, I planted 12 of each variety and narrowed it to 3 of each into solo cups when they outgrew the planter kit.


Im planning to get them in the garden this week. Hopefully they survive transplanting.


I’ll be buying tomato plants and have seeds for zucchini, acorn squash, green onions and a lettuce “salad mix”. I have two different varieties of cucumber seeds too but am hoping to find them in plants at the greenhouse. I’m planning to trellis my cukes somehow to keep them off the ground and make more room in my garden. I always put in one cherry tomato plant too.


Who else is planning to grow some veggies this yr?

Any tips/tricks the rest of us may not know about?

Happy Spring!
 
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Did a small garden this year, just a few tomatoes plants, some peppers, and herbs.  Oh and cucumbers.

I wasn't going to do one, because I travel a decent amount for work but with all the COVID-19 stuff figured I'll be around plenty this summer.  

Had my plants all in the ground about 6ish weeks now.  Tomatoes are 2-3' tall and already have some blooms.  Cucumbers are starting to trellis nicely.  Already harvested herbs a few times for different recipes.  

I'm trying to use diatomaceous earth for ants this year.  I always have horrible problems with ants all over my yard and gardens.  It's basically a really fine inert powder that shreds ants or other crawling insects when they come in contact with it.  Link  (Much cheaper at Lowes, like $9.)

 
Tomatoes, sweet and hot pepppers, herbs, cukes, squash. Just need some heat. Been pretty mild in KS so far this spring. Got massive returning growths of horseradish, ginger, wasabi and rhubarb.

Wanted to start some asparagus but the garden stores were pretty picked through this year. 

 
Great thread topic Cowboy, thanks for starting it!

I started my complete transition to an old man status (started woodworking and gardening!) about 10 yrs back (in my mid 30’s).  I expected to have a hard time with the woodworking and that growing food would be pretty simple.  The exact opposite has proven to be true.  The first 5-7 years my garden was very inconsistent, 1 year I’d get great tomatoes and ####ty cucumbers, the next it would flip flop.  The year after that both would suck.  What I ultimately found is I could grow great plants (They’d look nice and healthy) but when it came to food part of them I sucked.   The last few years I’ve gotten better and more consistent but I still have a long way to go.  So with that all said I’m very much looking forward to any tips fbg’ers can impart.  But here’s what I’ve learned the last few years that has helped me. 

-For tomatoes if starting with small plants bury them as deep as you can, even going so far as to bury the first few stems.  Google some info on this, there is a ton of good info on why this is important.  
-watering (knowing how much or or little) is where the magic happens.  This was my greatest source of frustration in that I couldn’t find good information anywhere on how to water properly.  I wanted directions like water every Thursday for two minutes or water every day for five mins, etc.  I quickly realized that type of direction was impossible as there’s too many variations.  Time and experience is the key.  One thing I did do though that helped a lot was switching to using a watering can instead of the hose.  This allowed me to know how much I was watering and could make adjustments as necessary.   
-lettuce is easy and so amazing fresh.  I never thought that there would be a different between store bought lettuce or home grown, it just lettuce after all, there isn’t much taste to it.  Wrong. It’s the same as the difference between store bought tomatoes and home grown. It’s huge. 
- cucumbers hate water on the leaves and when planting them build a small mound don’t just plant them on the flat ground.  I learned this from our local gardening store owner.  Works great, mine produced much better when I incorporated these two “tricks”. 
-know what grows well together and what doesn’t. Google is your friend again here but lots of plants benefit from being next to each others and other do really poorly. 

 
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I've had a small garden for a couple years now.  And I grow a few other things around our property.

Garden - 

Serranos, Jalapeno's, Datil's, Poblano's, Roma and Heirloom Tomatoes. Purple and white onions.  Sweet corn and popping corn.  Cucumbers, tomatillos, cilantro, basil, dill. Carrots and radishes.

Most of the peppers are now several years old and the Roma's are 4th generation that I seeded a couple years ago and keep replanting themselves.

I have to make salsa at least one a week and still can't use it all.  And now my freezer is full of more salsa than I can eat in a year. No baseball is killing my salsa comsumption.

Other places - 

Papaya, pineapple, lime, meyer lemon, grapefruit, tangerine, fig, rosemary, thyme, ginger.

Dumbest plant I've bought - purple cauliflower.  Bought it this spring for about $3 at Home Depot and then discovered they don't do well in warm climates and only produce one head. I got one half size head off it before it started to bolt.  I did stew up the greens like collards but it still wasn't worth it.

I do use a hose end timer and have drip lines set up for watering. I was traveling a lot, so this was imperative, not so much now but it does make things easier.

 
I do use a hose end timer and have drip lines set up for watering.
I do this as well.  Have a spigot next to my garden, have a timer on that and drip lines that water my garden.  Entire drip line is covered in leaves and other mulch (grass clippings) so the water can't go up and must go down.

 
I haven’t had a lot of luck the last few years. 2 years ago it started raining in the spring and didn’t stop til fall.

Last yr I had major bug issues.

Over the years I’ve grown a lot of different vegetables. I’ve learned that the best way for me to go, is to only grow what we eat fresh. Peas, green beans, Brussels Sprouts etc that need to be picked pretty much every day once they start coming then either canned or blanched and frozen is ALOT of work and in the end doesn’t taste much different than what I can buy cheap in the grocery store. 
 

This year I bought a seed starting kit https://www.homedepot.com/p/Burpee-36-Cell-Self-Watering-Greenhouse-Kit-95036/203110194 and started seeds indoors for the first time. I planted poblano, Anaheim and cubanelles. These are my favorite peppers to eat and their plants can’t be found at the greenhouses here. That kit worked great. The instructions were to set it in a sunny window but I bought a cheap led light and run it 12 hours or so every day. Anyway, I planted 12 of each variety and narrowed it to 3 of each into solo cups when they outgrew the planter kit. 
 

Im planning to get them in the garden this week. Hopefully they survive transplanting. 
 

I’ll be buying tomato plants and have seeds for zucchini, acorn squash, green onions and a lettuce “salad mix”. I have two different varieties of cucumber seeds too but am hoping to find them in plants at the greenhouse. I’m planning to trellis my cukes somehow to keep them off the ground and make more room in my garden. I always put in one cherry tomato plant too. 
 

Who else is planning to grow some veggies this yr?

Any tips/tricks the rest of us may not know about?

Happy Spring!
I enjoy watching my wife garden and help where I can, but like Scottie Pippen said in "Last Dance" when discussing Jordan's final shot against the Jazz:  "Just get the hell out of the way!"

Mrs. GM has the green thumb for sure.  Right now she has artichokes coming up in our front yard, right by the sidewalk.  We get a kick out of watching neighbors stroll by, stop and sometimes take pictures of her artichokes:lmao:   I'd never seen them before, so they're pretty neat - she's got one plant that has like 6 of them growing on there.  

We've got strawberries coming up in the front and the back plus raspberries galore.  Fun to watch the little kids go out there and pick them.  We'll have green beans, snap peas, cukes, tomatoes, peppers, kale and who knows what else.  What I really like is all the herbs she has around the house.  I can go out and pick rosemary, thyme, oregano anytime so I never need to buy it again.  It's everywhere.  Mint?  All over the damn place.  Wish I liked fancy cocktails that called for them. 

Couple of tips:  My wife saves up all our egg shells in a mortar and when it gets full, uses the pestle to pulverize them down.  She spreads that all over her gardens.  Seems to really help.  Also, save up your coffee grounds.  Slugs and bugs don't like them, so they're a natural deterrent that also help in the soil.   

I'm not allowed to use any fertilizer or chemicals, so everything is 'organic' at our place.  We have to weed by hand, but it keeps me busy.  

 
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Also built my first planter box for her.  I might have gone a little overboard....I used good, thick untreated cedar and built this thing 8'x3' and 24 inches tall.  I needed 1.75 yards of top soil to fill it.  :lmao:

What a dope.   I should have just gone 12 inches high and done two of them.  Oh well, live and learn.  We parked it in an area of the back yard that just has nothing but crappy clay underneath and attempts to grow anything there failed.  But it gets great sunlight and so this monstrosity eats up some real estate and should yield some good crops.  We let our 4 year old twins throw seeds in there and, well....we have no idea what's going to happen, but it is fun. 

 
we always grow a little something  tomatoes, peppers, etc.  we had a full blown garden at one point.  but, the battle with the critters was just too much.  i have a small peach tree that produces the most amazing peaches.  wife grows tons of herbs.  some day, i'd love to have a big garden.

 
Did a small garden this year, just a few tomatoes plants, some peppers, and herbs.  Oh and cucumbers.

I wasn't going to do one, because I travel a decent amount for work but with all the COVID-19 stuff figured I'll be around plenty this summer.  

Had my plants all in the ground about 6ish weeks now.  Tomatoes are 2-3' tall and already have some blooms.  Cucumbers are starting to trellis nicely.  Already harvested herbs a few times for different recipes.  

I'm trying to use diatomaceous earth for ants this year.  I always have horrible problems with ants all over my yard and gardens.  It's basically a really fine inert powder that shreds ants or other crawling insects when they come in contact with it.  Link  (Much cheaper at Lowes, like $9.)
I’d never heard of that before, thanks for the link. This might be exactly what I need. I used to use Sevin dust but my granddaughter helps me in the garden now and that #### is straight poison so I haven’t used it for Cpl years

 
Have a small garden each year for veggies we eat at home.  Mostly just tomatoes, peppers, some lettuce, peas, radish, beets - stuff we like to eat fresh

https://www.instagram.com/p/3cfbvzCvqV/

My brother has large garden that I help with.  He grows tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, beets, squash, zucchini and sweet corn and then i use some of his land to grow pumpkins and gourds for fall decorations.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiuK7LinSf1/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzitdeMj8a0/

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0XSFdej1Td/

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByaqsOYDZ5f/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnv1jiFn__V/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnt05uBH7u0/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnKN0fqHeFt/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BncU4E1nxdb/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkbXMq8nLEd/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkYNhTIHtli/

Note - pictures aren't from this year!

 
Oh yeah, we've got garlic all over the place too.  Onions, carrots....last year we had a freaking watermelon that was growing out of our parkway:lmao:   One of the twins planted seeds there and WA LA.  I don't think this is the right climate for them, though.  They grow 'em in the eastern part of the state which gets a lot more sun.  They finally picked it and cut it open and it was straight nasty.  

 
As some know I have a small vineyard that produces about 20 bottles of 🍷 per year..

My wife and I also had a pretty large Garden (Tomatoes, Peppers, Beans, Asparagus, etc.. ) but we are getting old and crawling around on our hands and knees was getting old.. So for Mother's Day I built a Raised Garden for her.

The Materials themselves weren't too bad cost wise.. It was the fricken dirt that cost the most.. Should have gone with a truck load rather then bags from Home Depot but she wanted organic vegetable garden soil so went her way.. 

Any ways, I think it came out great. 

 
Have a small garden each year for veggies we eat at home.  Mostly just tomatoes, peppers, some lettuce, peas, radish, beets - stuff we like to eat fresh

https://www.instagram.com/p/3cfbvzCvqV/

My brother has large garden that I help with.  He grows tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, beets, squash, zucchini and sweet corn and then i use some of his land to grow pumpkins and gourds for fall decorations.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiuK7LinSf1/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzitdeMj8a0/

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0XSFdej1Td/

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByaqsOYDZ5f/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnv1jiFn__V/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnt05uBH7u0/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnKN0fqHeFt/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BncU4E1nxdb/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkbXMq8nLEd/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkYNhTIHtli/

Note - pictures aren't from this year!
There are gardens.. and then there are GARDENS! .. or should I say a small farm?? :jawdrop:  

 
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Did a small garden this year, just a few tomatoes plants, some peppers, and herbs.  Oh and cucumbers.

I wasn't going to do one, because I travel a decent amount for work but with all the COVID-19 stuff figured I'll be around plenty this summer.  

Had my plants all in the ground about 6ish weeks now.  Tomatoes are 2-3' tall and already have some blooms.  Cucumbers are starting to trellis nicely.  Already harvested herbs a few times for different recipes.  

I'm trying to use diatomaceous earth for ants this year.  I always have horrible problems with ants all over my yard and gardens.  It's basically a really fine inert powder that shreds ants or other crawling insects when they come in contact with it.  Link  (Much cheaper at Lowes, like $9.)
What did you use to trellis your cukes?

 
What did you use to trellis your cukes?
I have some hog wire (4" square holes) cages for my tomatoes and I have a random panel of it that's too small for a cage.  Staked that to a T-post.  I've also grown them on the garden fence before, but my dog has discovered he likes cucumbers.  I would like to have some to eat this year as well.  

 
I’d never heard of that before, thanks for the link. This might be exactly what I need. I used to use Sevin dust but my granddaughter helps me in the garden now and that #### is straight poison so I haven’t used it for Cpl years
So there's a warning about breathing it because it's so fine that it will irritate nose/mouth/eyes...  but it's not poison.  It's only a little irritating on skin.  Actually kinda helped exfoliate the hands.  (No homo.)

 
I have some hog wire (4" square holes) cages for my tomatoes and I have a random panel of it that's too small for a cage.  Staked that to a T-post.  I've also grown them on the garden fence before, but my dog has discovered he likes cucumbers.  I would like to have some to eat this year as well.  
:lol: thanks

 
Did a small garden this year, just a few tomatoes plants, some peppers, and herbs.  Oh and cucumbers.

I wasn't going to do one, because I travel a decent amount for work but with all the COVID-19 stuff figured I'll be around plenty this summer.  

Had my plants all in the ground about 6ish weeks now.  Tomatoes are 2-3' tall and already have some blooms.  Cucumbers are starting to trellis nicely.  Already harvested herbs a few times for different recipes.  

I'm trying to use diatomaceous earth for ants this year.  I always have horrible problems with ants all over my yard and gardens.  It's basically a really fine inert powder that shreds ants or other crawling insects when they come in contact with it.  Link  (Much cheaper at Lowes, like $9.)
So I opened your amazon link and read some reviews

These people are mixing this stuff with water and drinking it

:oldunsure:

 
snogger said:
As some know I have a small vineyard that produces about 20 bottles of 🍷 per year..

My wife and I also had a pretty large Garden (Tomatoes, Peppers, Beans, Asparagus, etc.. ) but we are getting old and crawling around on our hands and knees was getting old.. So for Mother's Day I built a Raised Garden for her.

The Materials themselves weren't too bad cost wise.. It was the fricken dirt that cost the most.. Should have gone with a truck load rather then bags from Home Depot but she wanted organic vegetable garden soil so went her way.. 

Any ways, I think it came out great. 
Beautiful job man

 
Blackberries already getting ripe. Picked one yesterday, a dozen today. delicious.

Tomatoes, peppers, squash, beans, peas.

Son wants to grow watermelons and pumpkins. We grew watermelons a long time ago in Kansas (everything grows in Kansas) but they take a lot of room. I'm trying to decide if it's worth taking out some grass to put in the watermelons or pumpkins. 

 
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Cowboysfan8 said:
So I opened your amazon link and read some reviews

These people are mixing this stuff with water and drinking it

:oldunsure:
Yeah, I noticed that too.  I'm only using it to treat ants (and other crawling insects) on my vegetables.   :tinfoilhat:

 
Does anyone do anything with Mulberries?  My neighbor has a tree that's significantly into my yard.  I could easily pick a pint or two, but no idea what to do with them.  

 
Went out and bought a few plants this morning and was going to get the majority of my garden planted this afternoon

Now I see we are under a frost advisory for tonight

🙄

 
Blackberries already getting ripe. Picked one yesterday, a dozen today. delicious.

Tomatoes, peppers, squash, beans, peas.

Son wants to grow watermelons and pumpkins. We grew watermelons a long time ago in Kansas (everything grows in Kansas) but they take a lot of room. I'm trying to decide if it's worth taking out some grass to put in the watermelons or pumpkins. 
Just my personal opinion as I never  had much luck growing watermelons - for the space and care needed, better off going to a farmers market and buying the one or 2 you will eat in a season.  For pumpkins I'm partial since I sell them so support your local market...but kids seem to enjoy seeing the pumpkin mature so if you have the space (they will most likely take up at a minimum 8x8 area of your garden depending on variety,  plant a couple.  Funny thing I noticed working with my wife and inlaws. When they read the seed packet and says to put in a "hill" for cucumbers, pumpkins, melons, etc they actual built a hill of dirt and put the seeds in.  I finally got them to just plant 3-4 seeds in the same spot on "level" ground and cover them.  Much more success this way, at least for me.

 
Went out and bought a few plants this morning and was going to get the majority of my garden planted this afternoon

Now I see we are under a frost advisory for tonight

🙄
If you have some empty gallon milk jugs in the recycle bin, you can cut the top off and then place over the plants.  You can even use this as a mini green house to warm up the area in early part of season (cut both ends open after threat of frost).  The outer protection also helps with the wind damaging plant until it gets stronger

 
Just my personal opinion as I never  had much luck growing watermelons - for the space and care needed, better off going to a farmers market and buying the one or 2 you will eat in a season.  For pumpkins I'm partial since I sell them so support your local market...but kids seem to enjoy seeing the pumpkin mature so if you have the space (they will most likely take up at a minimum 8x8 area of your garden depending on variety,  plant a couple.  Funny thing I noticed working with my wife and inlaws. When they read the seed packet and says to put in a "hill" for cucumbers, pumpkins, melons, etc they actual built a hill of dirt and put the seeds in.  I finally got them to just plant 3-4 seeds in the same spot on "level" ground and cover them.  Much more success this way, at least for me.
I'm pretty much in agreement and love the farmers market.

But we eat a lot more than 2 watermelons each summer. (5 kids)

 
Blackberries already getting ripe. Picked one yesterday, a dozen today. delicious.

Tomatoes, peppers, squash, beans, peas.

Son wants to grow watermelons and pumpkins. We grew watermelons a long time ago in Kansas (everything grows in Kansas) but they take a lot of room. I'm trying to decide if it's worth taking out some grass to put in the watermelons or pumpkins. 
Let em grow what they want if they’re taking an interest in it that’s great imo

They grow up fast

eta: plus it’s less grass to mow :lol:

 
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Let em grow what they want if they’re taking an interest in it that’s great imo

They grow up fast

eta: plus it’s less grass to mow :lol:
That's the right approach.  Give 'em a packet of seeds, a shovel and set them off.  It's fun to watch them get excited over these things.  The watermelon we had became a curiosity of the neighborhood and now, we're just the silly family that grows odd things in their yard.  Just don't go peeking in the back to see what I'm growing. :oldunsure:

 
I'm desperate to plant a garden but just don't have a good spot that gets a lot of sunlight. Don't think good tomatoes are possible anywhere on my lot, which blows. Five hours is probably max sunlight time. Anyone have success with limited-sun gardens? If so what you growing?

 
I'm desperate to plant a garden but just don't have a good spot that gets a lot of sunlight. Don't think good tomatoes are possible anywhere on my lot, which blows. Five hours is probably max sunlight time. Anyone have success with limited-sun gardens? If so what you growing?
Where are you at?  My garden gets late afternoon sun, but it gets so hot here in Oklahoma that my tomatoes actually do best that way.  

 
near Boston


I'm desperate to plant a garden but just don't have a good spot that gets a lot of sunlight. Don't think good tomatoes are possible anywhere on my lot, which blows. Five hours is probably max sunlight time. Anyone have success with limited-sun gardens? If so what you growing?
There are tomato varieties that do better in shade. I’d try it. What do you have to lose?

 
I'm desperate to plant a garden but just don't have a good spot that gets a lot of sunlight. Don't think good tomatoes are possible anywhere on my lot, which blows. Five hours is probably max sunlight time. Anyone have success with limited-sun gardens? If so what you growing?
Some people do "container" gardens.  You can put your tomato plants in pots and move them around to get sun.  Only bad part of this (besides always moving them) is they dry out fast so need to water often

 
Went out and bought a few plants this morning and was going to get the majority of my garden planted this afternoon

Now I see we are under a frost advisory for tonight

🙄
Got my seeds in the ground. Green onions, baby greens mix, acorn squash and zucchini.

Hoping to get the plants in tomorrow afternoon depending on how much I drink on the golf course :oldunsure:

Ive started hardening off my peppers that I started inside last month. I’m nervous about planting them in the garden 

 
Just harvested some Datil's today and put them away to ferment. Plan to make a Datil/Rum/Garlic hot sauce. Datil's are a hot pepper of Indian origin that reputadly grows only In St. Augustine, FL outside of India.  I'm south of there and have a bumper crop this year. They smell sweet, like a scotch bonnet/habanero, but not quite as hot.

Datil's

Off to ferment

 
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Does anyone do anything with Mulberries?  My neighbor has a tree that's significantly into my yard.  I could easily pick a pint or two, but no idea what to do with them.  
Besides eat them?  :)   I know people make jam out of them.  2 years ago my mulberry tree put on tons of berries.  About twice as many as it normally does for whatever reason.  I picked gallon bags full and froze them with the intention of making wine, but never got around to it.  :kicksrock:

 
Besides eat them?  :)   I know people make jam out of them.  2 years ago my mulberry tree put on tons of berries.  About twice as many as it normally does for whatever reason.  I picked gallon bags full and froze them with the intention of making wine, but never got around to it.  :kicksrock:
I'm thinking I'll see if there's some cocktails that use the berries.  

I have eaten a decent number.  They are pretty tasty.  

 
Here's an old thread  that had a lot of good information in it.  Most of the links are probably dead by now, but I learned a lot about container growing back then. 

I stopped growing everything but herbs for a few years, but just bought a new home with a big back yard last year and have tried getting back into it. 

I currently have about 5 or six tomato plants. One really nice Romo that I'm cloning.  

I also took an old pallet. Filled it with dirt and planted corn seed. I have 20 stalks that are doing really well and if I can keep the ants off them, We'll be having corn on the cob for the 4th of July. 

 
I got a late start fro Florida Cukes, and have never had good luck with them. 

Any tips from you southern growers on the best methods?  

Vertical or horizontal vines

Raised Bed or container 

Regular Container or self watering?

 
For fathers day my wife ordered me a few dwarf citrus trees. Limes, Lemons, and Mandarins.I'm going to grow them in pots since we're renting our house right now, but hopefully can buy sometime next year. Does anyone use those raised gardening beds? I was thinking of getting one so I can grow some tomatoes and herbs, or something? Are they worth it?  :thumbup:

 
For fathers day my wife ordered me a few dwarf citrus trees. Limes, Lemons, and Mandarins.I'm going to grow them in pots since we're renting our house right now, but hopefully can buy sometime next year. Does anyone use those raised gardening beds? I was thinking of getting one so I can grow some tomatoes and herbs, or something? Are they worth it?  :thumbup:
Since you're renting, you probably don't want to build them yourself since they'll be tough to take with you when you move.  IMO.  Maybe look into the wooden whiskey barrels for planting these?

 
Got my tomatoes, cherry tomato and cucumbers in the ground this evening.
 

Going to harden off my indoor started peppers a few more days. 

Trying a “teepee” trellis to get my cukes off the ground

No idea how to post pics or I would 
Imgur.  I just recently used it for the first time to post some pics here in the woodworking thread.  Worked well and is easy.  

 

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