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There's an outside chance I might be relocating to Las Vegas sometime in the next 18 months.  Just trying to familiarize myself with any "need to know" info so I'm not scrambling for data at the zero hour if it comes to pass.  The sum total of what I've read online so far (not very much) has led me to believe that these are truths.  Please disabuse me of this notion if any of this is fallacious, and please add any observations you may have.

Just FYI - if this does happen, I'll be working remotely and traveling back to the east coast on occasion, so proximity to the office/jobs and the job market in general is (hopefully) a non-issue.

1 - The two places to look for a home are Summerlin and Henderson.  Everything else is "less than."  Both are low crime areas about 20-30 mins from the Strip with lots of amenities in the neighborhood itself, rendering trips to the Strip unnecessary except for special occasions/friend and family visits.  That sounds pretty good to me.  Henderson more of an actual town and closer to the airport, while Summerlin is a master-planned community and closer to the mountains/national park.

2 - We have a house buying budget of $275-300k, just so we can buy something without taking out a big, long mortgage.  I'd probably be putting about 50% down and mortgaging the rest over 10, maybe 15 years, tops.  The latter would take me to age 62, and I don't really plan on working past that.  I don't really want to put more than $1,500-$2,000 a month toward mortgage and escrow, just so I have a "fat pocket" for travel/indulgences.  From what I understand, you can get a decent 1,200-1,500 sq. ft. home for this in a good neighborhood.  We have no kids, so we don't need a huge space to maintain and schools in an area are not important.

3 - There aren't a lot of pests/insects to speak of, but you can end up with a house that's lousy with scorpions.  This displeases me.  I've read that for your best hope, avoid new construction and neighborhoods/homes with a lot of palm trees.  Keep your yard free of debris/rock piles they can hide in.  Pay a professional to seal the home and spray monthly.  I'm decidedly not into cruising around every night with a blacklight to find the things glowing and crushing them.  Pass.

4 - It can be difficult to make friends as much of the population is transient and since many people (most?) are in hospitality/gaming, lots of people work off hours.  I'd be working 6 AM - 2 PM local time (as I need to be online 9-5 ET.)

5- It can be hard to find jobs outside of restaurants/hotels/casinos.  Again, hopefully not an issue as both my wife will work remotely, but if either of us ever gets laid off, it would be good to know we wouldn't be in a job wasteland.  She's in the hotel business (HR) so it should be easier for her, I'm in middle management.  Might be tougher for me to find a job if need be.

6 - The weather is great outside of late May through September.  I've lived in Florida and the Caribbean, so blazing hot summers are nothing unique to me.  I've never had much of an issue just staying the hell inside for a few months.  Had a lot more practice recently.  I'll take a scorching summer over a freezing cold/snowy winter any day.

 

What am I missing, or is any of this incorrect?  Any input is appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

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1 minute ago, Osaurus said:

Summerlin=Stuccoville. Not interested in Paradise?

I don't know much about it.  Isn't that where the Strip is?  I don't know that I want to live that close to the Strip, traffic/tourists everywhere, no?  Also, my brief off-strip sojourns on my many, many Vegas trips have led to some seriously sketchy areas.  If I'm off base here, by all means, please let me know - as I say, I haven't done all that much research yet.

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11 minutes ago, Get It.......At Porky's said:

Long, boring story, not really important for the purposes of the post.  I mean, I can share with you, but you'd tune out after 10 seconds.

This is what we live for. Indulge us.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Get It.......At Porky's said:

I don't know much about it.  Isn't that where the Strip is?  I don't know that I want to live that close to the Strip, traffic/tourists everywhere, no?  Also, my brief off-strip sojourns on my many, many Vegas trips have led to some seriously sketchy areas.  If I'm off base here, by all means, please let me know - as I say, I haven't done all that much research yet.

Paradise is mostly between Henderson and Vegas proper. It’s south and east of the airport. It’s not a sketchy area from what I’ve seen. Tourists don’t venture there really unless they’re returning a rental car. 

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1 minute ago, ChiefD said:

This is what we live for. Indulge us.

 

 

Super-quick version is that my wife has family members in failing health in the area.  She wants to move closer to help care for them.  Only real towns in acceptable proximity  are Mesquite, St. George, UT, and Vegas.  Of those, Vegas is the most appealing to both of us by a wide margin. 

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There are more places than Summerlin and Henderson to consider—-but those two places are solid.  Silverado Ranch is nice and Southern Highlands for example. Why put such a large down payment? Interest rates are soo low that it almost doesn’t make sense to do that unless you are worried that you might be frivolous with any money that you have leftover?   Don’t get me wrong—I’m all for reducing debt and having a low mortgage payment—but if you are disciplined—you could probably make a better return on those additional funds.   Honestly—in regards to making friends and jobs—it depends on the area where you live. If you live in an apartment complex or a condo in some of the less affluent areas—yes—-there is a lot of turnover there.   However—in nice neighborhoods in the areas you are mentioning—you can absolutely make lots of friends.  Lastly—Vegas is a big city with opportunity for people with skills.  If you are competent and hardworking—-you should be able to get a job without much issue. However—don’t expect to get some crazy high paying job to start.   That probably won’t happen.   The saving grace is that the cost of living in the city makes it so that you don’t need to make a ton of money to have a nice standard of living.   One thing to consider is maybe considering solar panels so that you run the A/c and heater when the weather hits the extremes. 

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5 minutes ago, Osaurus said:

Paradise is between Henderson and Vegas proper. It’s south and east of the airport. It’s not a sketchy area from what I’ve seen. Tourists don’t venture there really unless they’re returning a rental car. 

Looking at a map, it looks like Paradise covers the south end of the Strip and the airport on the northern half.  Southern half is Silverado Ranch area, which borders on the Seven Hills/MacDonald/Green Valley South area of Henderson.  That southern part would definitely be in play.  I don't think I want to live as close to the Strip/airport as the northern part of Paradise, but the southern part/Silverado Ranch area, sure.

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1 minute ago, jvdesigns2002 said:

There are more places than Summerlin and Henderson to consider—-but those two places are solid.  Silverado Ranch is nice and Southern Highlands for example. Why put such a large down payment? Interest rates are soo low that it almost doesn’t make sense to do that unless you are worried that you might be frivolous with any money that you have leftover?   Don’t get me wrong—I’m all for reducing debt and having a low mortgage payment—but if you are disciplined—you could probably make a better return on those additional funds.   Honestly—in regards to making friends and jobs—it depends on the area where you live. If you live in an apartment complex or a condo in some of the less affluent areas—yes—-there is a lot of turnover there.   However—in nice neighborhoods in the areas you are mentioning—you can absolutely make lots of friends.  Lastly—Vegas is a big city with opportunity for people with skills.  If you are competent and hardworking—-you should be able to get a job without much issue. However—don’t expect to get some crazy high paying job to start.   That probably won’t happen.   The saving grace is that the cost of living in the city makes it so that you don’t need to make a ton of money to have a nice standard of living.   One thing to consider is maybe considering solar panels so that you run the A/c and heater when the weather hits the extremes. 

I may end up reconsidering the down payment, initial thought is that I want to have my house paid off before I retire.  I could easily do a 30-year to put less down and then just pay it all off in one lump sum down the road.

 

I'm hoping I won't need to go job hunting.  I make a fairly comfortable living working in NJ, but I'm sure salaries aren't comparable in NV.  Then again, cost of living isn't either.  The aim is to take my job online and continue to draw a NJ paycheck with NV costs.  That's that I'm hoping to pull off.

 

Great info here, thanks for taking the time....

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5 minutes ago, jvdesigns2002 said:

There are more places than Summerlin and Henderson to consider—-but those two places are solid.  Silverado Ranch is nice and Southern Highlands for example. Why put such a large down payment? Interest rates are soo low that it almost doesn’t make sense to do that unless you are worried that you might be frivolous with any money that you have leftover?   Don’t get me wrong—I’m all for reducing debt and having a low mortgage payment—but if you are disciplined—you could probably make a better return on those additional funds.   Honestly—in regards to making friends and jobs—it depends on the area where you live. If you live in an apartment complex or a condo in some of the less affluent areas—yes—-there is a lot of turnover there.   However—in nice neighborhoods in the areas you are mentioning—you can absolutely make lots of friends.  Lastly—Vegas is a big city with opportunity for people with skills.  If you are competent and hardworking—-you should be able to get a job without much issue. However—don’t expect to get some crazy high paying job to start.   That probably won’t happen.   The saving grace is that the cost of living in the city makes it so that you don’t need to make a ton of money to have a nice standard of living.   One thing to consider is maybe considering solar panels so that you run the A/c and heater when the weather hits the extremes. 

Southern Highlands is just across I-15 from Seven Hills, right?

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9 minutes ago, jvdesigns2002 said:

There are more places than Summerlin and Henderson to consider—-but those two places are solid.  Silverado Ranch is nice and Southern Highlands for example. Why put such a large down payment? Interest rates are soo low that it almost doesn’t make sense to do that unless you are worried that you might be frivolous with any money that you have leftover?   Don’t get me wrong—I’m all for reducing debt and having a low mortgage payment—but if you are disciplined—you could probably make a better return on those additional funds.   Honestly—in regards to making friends and jobs—it depends on the area where you live. If you live in an apartment complex or a condo in some of the less affluent areas—yes—-there is a lot of turnover there.   However—in nice neighborhoods in the areas you are mentioning—you can absolutely make lots of friends.  Lastly—Vegas is a big city with opportunity for people with skills.  If you are competent and hardworking—-you should be able to get a job without much issue. However—don’t expect to get some crazy high paying job to start.   That probably won’t happen.   The saving grace is that the cost of living in the city makes it so that you don’t need to make a ton of money to have a nice standard of living.   One thing to consider is maybe considering solar panels so that you run the A/c and heater when the weather hits the extremes. 

Definitely doing this, BTW.  Great idea.

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53 minutes ago, Get It.......At Porky's said:

There's an outside chance I might be relocating to Las Vegas sometime in the next 18 months.  Just trying to familiarize myself with any "need to know" info so I'm not scrambling for data at the zero hour if it comes to pass.  The sum total of what I've read online so far (not very much) has led me to believe that these are truths.  Please disabuse me of this notion if any of this is fallacious, and please add any observations you may have.

Just FYI - if this does happen, I'll be working remotely and traveling back to the east coast on occasion, so proximity to the office/jobs and the job market in general is (hopefully) a non-issue.

1 - The two places to look for a home are Summerlin and Henderson.  Everything else is "less than."  Both are low crime areas about 20-30 mins from the Strip with lots of amenities in the neighborhood itself, rendering trips to the Strip unnecessary except for special occasions/friend and family visits.  That sounds pretty good to me.  Henderson more of an actual town and closer to the airport, while Summerlin is a master-planned community and closer to the mountains/national park.

2 - We have a house buying budget of $275-300k, just so we can buy something without taking out a big, long mortgage.  I'd probably be putting about 50% down and mortgaging the rest over 10, maybe 15 years, tops.  The latter would take me to age 62, and I don't really plan on working past that.  I don't really want to put more than $1,500-$2,000 a month toward mortgage and escrow, just so I have a "fat pocket" for travel/indulgences.  From what I understand, you can get a decent 1,200-1,500 sq. ft. home for this in a good neighborhood.  We have no kids, so we don't need a huge space to maintain and schools in an area are not important.

3 - There aren't a lot of pests/insects to speak of, but you can end up with a house that's lousy with scorpions.  This displeases me.  I've read that for your best hope, avoid new construction and neighborhoods/homes with a lot of palm trees.  Keep your yard free of debris/rock piles they can hide in.  Pay a professional to seal the home and spray monthly.  I'm decidedly not into cruising around every night with a blacklight to find the things glowing and crushing them.  Pass.

4 - It can be difficult to make friends as much of the population is transient and since many people (most?) are in hospitality/gaming, lots of people work off hours.  I'd be working 6 AM - 2 PM local time (as I need to be online 9-5 ET.)

5- It can be hard to find jobs outside of restaurants/hotels/casinos.  Again, hopefully not an issue as both my wife will work remotely, but if either of us ever gets laid off, it would be good to know we wouldn't be in a job wasteland.  She's in the hotel business (HR) so it should be easier for her, I'm in middle management.  Might be tougher for me to find a job if need be.

6 - The weather is great outside of late May through September.  I've lived in Florida and the Caribbean, so blazing hot summers are nothing unique to me.  I've never had much of an issue just staying the hell inside for a few months.  Had a lot more practice recently.  I'll take a scorching summer over a freezing cold/snowy winter any day.

 

What am I missing, or is any of this incorrect?  Any input is appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

My sister lives in Summerlin and I have been there a few times.  Very nice area.  I think 8 years ago she paid around 250K for a beautiful condo on a golf course.   3 BR 2 baths, open floor plan with a view of the mountains.

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6 minutes ago, Get It.......At Porky's said:

Southern Highlands is just across I-15 from Seven Hills, right?

Seven hills is not on the 15.   Southern Highlands would be across the 15 and towards the Southern tip and a bit further South of Silverado Ranch. 

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Just now, Da Guru said:

My sister lives in Summerlin and I have been there a few times.  Very nice area.

That's what I've read.  The synopsis was kind of : if you like a "real town" feel, an established community, with good areas and bad, more diversity, more roots, then Henderson is a good place to look.  If you like new, shiny master-planned area that's scrubbed clean, low crime, lot of $, look in Summerlin.  No idea how accurate that is.

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1 minute ago, jvdesigns2002 said:

Seven hills is not on the 15.   Southern Highlands would be across the 15 and towards the Southern tip and a bit further South of Silverado Ranch. 

Got it.  Seven Hills, from the map I'm looking at, looks like it's just a mile or two east of 15, behind and a bit north of the M resort.  I stayed there on business last year and the Uber driver told me that general area is booming because of the Raiders coming - I guess players and staffers are buying houses out that way?

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1 minute ago, Get It.......At Porky's said:

That's what I've read.  The synopsis was kind of : if you like a "real town" feel, an established community, with good areas and bad, more diversity, more roots, then Henderson is a good place to look.  If you like new, shiny master-planned area that's scrubbed clean, low crime, lot of $, look in Summerlin.  No idea how accurate that is.

Pretty accurate.  That is exactly what my sister wanted.

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I've never lived there but I've lived very close to Vegas and have spent a lot of time there the last dozen years. Here are my thoughts: 

1. Both Summerlin and Henderson are really nice areas. Henderson is a bit more family-friendly and if you are into adult recreation (if you play softball hit pm me) it's a top place in the country to live. Summerlin is a bit more "high-end" with a traditional suburban feel. Both have a very new feel. Both have great shopping, restaurants, and good grocerie stores. I'd also toss out the Green Valley area as well. 

2. Yes, there are scorpions, but I have never heard of or seen them to be an issue to the extent that you raise. 

3. I concur that you can probably find something really nice (if you go small) for your budget. Cost of living in vegas is actually pretty low/good. 

4. Yeah, it can probably be difficult to make friends but if you find a niche it'll be all right. The local scene is actually pretty organized and active (I think I still get their emails). 

5. I can't really speak to the job market other than to say that, yes, there's a lot of service industry jobs but I'd note that they pay quite well relative to the cost of living. 

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Just now, Da Guru said:

Pretty accurate.  That is exactly what my sister wanted.

I'll go out there long before I buy anything and spend time in both areas, as well as some of the others mentioned in this thread, before buying anything.  Thanks for the info.

 

OTL - back in an hour or so to respond to anything posted in the interim.  Appreciate all your comments/perspective.

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Just now, Zow said:

I've never lived there but I've lived very close to Vegas and have spent a lot of time there the last dozen years. Here are my thoughts: 

1. Both Summerlin and Henderson are really nice areas. Henderson is a bit more family-friendly and if you are into adult recreation (if you play softball hit pm me) it's a top place in the country to live. Summerlin is a bit more "high-end" with a traditional suburban feel. Both have a very new feel. Both have great shopping, restaurants, and good grocerie stores. I'd also toss out the Green Valley area as well. 

2. Yes, there are scorpions, but I have never heard of or seen them to be an issue to the extent that you raise. 

3. I concur that you can probably find something really nice (if you go small) for your budget. Cost of living in vegas is actually pretty low/good. 

4. Yeah, it can probably be difficult to make friends but if you find a niche it'll be all right. The local scene is actually pretty organized and active (I think I still get their emails). 

5. I can't really speak to the job market other than to say that, yes, there's a lot of service industry jobs but I'd note that they pay quite well relative to the cost of living. 

Great stuff, thanks man.  I figured the scorpion issue was overblown a bit, I just can't stand those f'n things.  :lol:

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4 minutes ago, Get It.......At Porky's said:

That's what I've read.  The synopsis was kind of : if you like a "real town" feel, an established community, with good areas and bad, more diversity, more roots, then Henderson is a good place to look.  If you like new, shiny master-planned area that's scrubbed clean, low crime, lot of $, look in Summerlin.  No idea how accurate that is.

Summerlin as an entire community is nicer and more elegant across the board. You have nice dining, nice shopping. You are also right on the edge of Red Rock canyon—so if you are into hiking and trails—it’s really a great area.   It’s not super close to the strip—so if you or your wife ends up working on the strip—just know that you could be looking at a 25-40 minute commute each way.  Also—in Summerlin you’ll not only have gated communities with HOA’s—but they used to have a city-wide HOA there as well.  I’m not sure if that still is the case—but it’s something to consider.   Many people put it like this—if you wanted to buy an investment property in vegas to rent out—you’d probably rank Henderson ahead of Summerlin. If you wanted to buy a property in Vegas to live in—most would rank Summerlin ahead of Henderson. 

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16 minutes ago, Get It.......At Porky's said:

That's what I've read.  The synopsis was kind of : if you like a "real town" feel, an established community, with good areas and bad, more diversity, more roots, then Henderson is a good place to look.  If you like new, shiny master-planned area that's scrubbed clean, low crime, lot of $, look in Summerlin.  No idea how accurate that is.

I'd agree with this assessment. 

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18 minutes ago, Get It.......At Porky's said:

That's what I've read.  The synopsis was kind of : if you like a "real town" feel, an established community, with good areas and bad, more diversity, more roots, then Henderson is a good place to look.  If you like new, shiny master-planned area that's scrubbed clean, low crime, lot of $, look in Summerlin.  No idea how accurate that is.

Yup. If you like beige stucco, you’ll love Summerlin :lol:

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Yup. If you like beige stucco, you’ll love Summerlin :lol:

Haha yeah, because any other color likely gets crushed by the sun. It does feel rather cookie-cutter. 

Summerlin is really nice though. Everything is very new including the commerce options (stores, gyms, rec areas, etc.), the traffic isn't awful, crime is almost unheard of, and the red rock views are great. 

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3 minutes ago, Zow said:

Haha yeah, because any other color likely gets crushed by the sun. It does feel rather cookie-cutter. 

Summerlin is really nice though. Everything is very new including the commerce options (stores, gyms, rec areas, etc.), the traffic isn't awful, crime is almost unheard of, and the red rock views are great. 

I do like it up there. Just reminds me a lot of FL for the same reason. Tbh, I really like Boulder City. It’s kind of a nice small town at least until the building moratorium is lifted. 

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2 minutes ago, Osaurus said:

I do like it up there. Just reminds me a lot of FL for the same reason. Tbh, I really like Boulder City. It’s kind of a nice small town at least until the building moratorium is lifted. 

I like Boulder, too. Have a colleague that lives there and he raves about it. May remain small as well with the new highway put in. 

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Sorry, I didn't see this sooner. I've been in Vegas for 14 years. I've lived in both Henderson and Summerlin and the assessments above are correct. If you like hiking, Summerlin is closer to Red Rock Canyon. The Strip is in the middle of town and is nowhere near Henderson or Summerlin. Northwest and southwest are also nice areas and are a bit cheaper. Depends where you work and what kind of commute you want. 

Also, in 14 years I've only seen one scorpion. 

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12 hours ago, r0llin_game said:

If you don’t mind being 30-45 minutes from the strip/airport, the northwest area of Centennial hills is super nice and a bit more affordable on housing cost. 

This is where I live.  Never seen a scorpion in my 21 years here.  Nice solid area that continues to grow as it expands toward Kyle Canyon/Mount Charleston.  A few degrees cooler than much of the valley due to elevation, as is Summerlin.  A lot less traffic in this area as well, as tourists from California never make it this far northwest.

I work in Henderson/Green Valley and the area is very nice. The HOA’s are quite a bit more in planned areas, but you get what you pay for.  Traffic can be a little heavier.  Southern Highlands is more expensive.  I expect many Raiders to be living in Southern Highlands, as the practice facility is nearby.

My personal preference would be to stay near or outside of the 215 beltway, as the closer you get to the strip, the areas are generally older.

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12 hours ago, Zow said:

Haha yeah, because any other color likely gets crushed by the sun. It does feel rather cookie-cutter. 

Summerlin is really nice though. Everything is very new including the commerce options (stores, gyms, rec areas, etc.), the traffic isn't awful, crime is almost unheard of, and the red rock views are great. 

The new minor league baseball stadium and Knights practice facility are also in Summerlin, right across from Red Rock Casino.

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19 hours ago, Get It.......At Porky's said:

I don't know much about it.  Isn't that where the Strip is?  I don't know that I want to live that close to the Strip, traffic/tourists everywhere, no?  Also, my brief off-strip sojourns on my many, many Vegas trips have led to some seriously sketchy areas.  If I'm off base here, by all means, please let me know - as I say, I haven't done all that much research yet.

I've lived in Henderson and I currently live in Summerlin. Summerlin is the place to be. The Green Valley portion of Henderson is nice but severely overbuilt with eternally long traffic lights every half block. A quick run to the store was a 15 minute drive to go 2 miles in that area for me. On the flip side, master planned Summerlin is chock full of parks, winding roads, green spaces, roundabouts, intra-subdivision grocery, convenience stores, restaurants, etc. Someone said it earlier - Californians come through and stay in Henderson, they don't hit Summerlin. I'm in real estate and have sold many Henderson homes to people who have turned them into an AirBnB. Every Summerlin home I've sold has been to people who bought to live there. Also with all the freeway expansion / reconstruction, I can exit my garage, pass through one roundabout and one traffic signal to the freeway and be on the Strip in 20 minutes from my home in far west Summerlin with Red Rock as my view from the backyard. They're also in the process of building a 5.5 mile trail from the back of my subdivision that will go directly to the Red Rock Canyon visitor center.

It's the perfect mix of feeling like you live on a different planet than the Strip while still being a quick drive from it whenever you want to enjoy it.

No scorpions seen by me either in my 5 years here. 

If you ever have any real estate questions about the area, feel free to send me a DM.

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On 6/3/2020 at 1:18 PM, Get It.......At Porky's said:

I may end up reconsidering the down payment, initial thought is that I want to have my house paid off before I retire.  I could easily do a 30-year to put less down and then just pay it all off in one lump sum down the road.

 

I'm hoping I won't need to go job hunting.  I make a fairly comfortable living working in NJ, but I'm sure salaries aren't comparable in NV.  Then again, cost of living isn't either.  The aim is to take my job online and continue to draw a NJ paycheck with NV costs.  That's that I'm hoping to pull off.

 

Great info here, thanks for taking the time....

Move tomorrow 

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