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20 minutes ago, Moonlight said:

I started looking at HGEN recently and they have NIH support, recent financing from a reputable source and FDA granted compassionate use. Also Mayo Clinic connections and the pairing up with SOC remdesivir  in a trial. Lower number of shares now. Lots I dont know about it. With recent price plummet may be a good time to enter. 

Anything else you would add about HGEN?

I became leery of CYDY which is a hard place to be when you want everyone here to do well.

That’s a good start and I agree with all this. Add competent management. 

Here are a couple of more things. I’m on a project to commercialize a Warp Speed drug which should be complimentary to Lenzilumab.If it’s efficacious, the US government will buy as much as we can make. I’ve seen the demand projections and I’ll tell you it’s not small or for short duration.

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Yes, go ahead FC42

I closed.  Cydy operation mountain house completed.

Fear is a disease.  Get rid of it or you're doomed for failure.  Though I did hear Leronlimab cures it. This is NOT an investment.  It is a Grand Slam Home Run or a Strike Out gamble in the stock

Dwayne Hoover

You are right I really believed in the stock. Touted it to family and friends. 

I think I took the blue pill one day. It was something about the way Nader was hyping the UK meeting that seemed false and misleading to me. It penetrated my usual tolerance of his schtick and said I need to do more due diligence and not accept things on faith. I started reading and rereading criticism of the company and its actions and overall lack of getting things done. And I said yes you can make a case that we are being sold a bill of goods and not just it being a short attack.

Additionally the lack of a solid response regarding NASDAQ from the financial officer when there should be a solid one was troubling.  So now I'm questioning both the CEO and CFO reliability. What's left.

Well there's the science. But Patterson the guy who steered them for better or for worse to co-vid is now, using a word that seems to fit, estranged from the company. We are on the outside we do not what's going on. Additionally, is Patterson's paper going to be published in a 'major' journal?

They may have something with cancer tx but they have struggled so much just getting the BLA.

Also I've been going on other biotech board. Many similarities to this board. People believe in the science of their drug, people feel that their drug doesn't get enough attention, that shorts are undermining their efforts etc. We all want the drug we invested in to be the ONE.

You asked, this is the best way I can answer. I'd be interested in your thoughts.

I'm interested in what's going to happen on the S/C its what they have going. If it isn't dynamic then they are up a creek without financing. 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Whyatt said:

That’s a good start and I agree with all this. Add competent management. 

Here are a couple of more things. I’m on a project to commercialize a Warp Speed drug which should be complimentary to Lenzilumab.If it’s efficacious, the US government will buy as much as we can make. I’ve seen the demand projections and I’ll tell you it’s not small or for short duration.

I'm a novice. Please explain is that drug a stand alone? Or does complimentary mean that it would be used in conjunction with Lenzilumab at the same time?

 

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16 minutes ago, Moonlight said:

I'm a novice. Please explain is that drug a stand alone? Or does complimentary mean that it would be used in conjunction with Lenzilumab at the same time?

 

Yes it’s a stand alone drug.

Severe/ critical Covid patients get multiple drugs.

cr69 may be connecting too many dots. The drug I’m working on has no connection to Lenzilumab.

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38 minutes ago, Moonlight said:

Dwayne Hoover

You are right I really believed in the stock. Touted it to family and friends. 

You asked, this is the best way I can answer. I'd be interested in your thoughts.

I'm interested in what's going to happen on the S/C its what they have going. If it isn't dynamic then they are up a creek without financing. 

 

 

All your points are valid.  If you aren't questioning this one on a regular basis, than you would be doing yourself a disservice.

At the present moment I feel good about it but also realize that it could be a huge fail.

The doctors have convinced me that it's a valid drug.  Just hearing Jay Lalazeri talk about it in his interview has me confident we aren't being sold any phony native american artifacts.  I have no reason not to trust him, he seems pretty genuine and he also was pretty realistic.  They know the drug works and we are about to find out if it's a single, double, triple or homerun.  They are waiting for the severe critical results to validate it just the same as we are but I can tell that he does believe in it.  As does Patterson, as does Yang and Dr Seethamraju.

 

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1 hour ago, Moonlight said:

 

I'm interested in what's going to happen on the S/C its what they have going. If it isn't dynamic then they are up a creek without financing. 

 

 

On this note, I don't think it's game over if they aren't approved.  As long as the drug shows some promise, they would be a candidate for a buy out.

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1 hour ago, Dwayne Hoover said:

All your points are valid.  If you aren't questioning this one on a regular basis, than you would be doing yourself a disservice.

At the present moment I feel good about it but also realize that it could be a huge fail.

The doctors have convinced me that it's a valid drug.  Just hearing Jay Lalazeri talk about it in his interview has me confident we aren't being sold any phony native american artifacts.  I have no reason not to trust him, he seems pretty genuine and he also was pretty realistic.  They know the drug works and we are about to find out if it's a single, double, triple or homerun.  They are waiting for the severe critical results to validate it just the same as we are but I can tell that he does believe in it.  As does Patterson, as does Yang and Dr Seethamraju.

 

Thanks.  Its got good support from those doctors. Also, Patterson has developed a specific covid test based on his rantes work. Which to me means he believes LL is genuine based on its actions. 

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45 minutes ago, Dwayne Hoover said:

On this note, I don't think it's game over if they aren't approved.  As long as the drug shows some promise, they would be a candidate for a buy out.

I would say though that the drug has been around a long time without a buyout yet.

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4 hours ago, Whyatt said:

100%. HGEN is a normal stock.

There will probably be a Netflix special about CYDY someday. 

Normal stocks don't do reverse splits. It's a kiss of death for so many companies. You should be honest with yourself.

I was part of an IPO in the 1990s. Tech. CEO reverse-split our stock, maybe 10-1, before we went public. He was so hell bent. And our equity as employees disappeared in an instant. We went public at maybe $13/share. We hit maybe $30 with a year or two, and a year later we were at $3, and then we were gone. Back then, i wasn't smart enough - nor were most of us - to know we were working for a fraction of a fraction of a fraction. In a company meeting before we went public, I asked a question about number of outstanding shares and how the IPO was affecting our equity. Our CEO snowed me with a BS answer that I knew was BS, but most had no idea WTF he was talking about.

Here's a recent quote from Google regarding a company that did a split.

"STI has implemented the reverse stock split for the purpose of regaining compliance with the Nasdaq Stock Market's listing maintenance standard that requires STI to maintain at least a $1.00 per share minimum bid price."

A split is, often times, a sign that you really F'd up along the way somewhere or you were bull####ting people the whole time.

Can't get around it. We may each be down a path following garbage. You're further down the path.

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17 minutes ago, Chaz McNulty said:

This is a scary read.  It's unbelievable that you can 'short' a stock without actually borrowing it.

This is long, but if you have some time...

 

https://smithonstocks.com/illegal-naked-short-selling-appears-to-lie-at-the-heart-of-an-extensive-stock-manipulation-scheme/

Man, that whole article sounds really familiar. :lol:

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On 9/11/2020 at 10:00 PM, Whyatt said:

That’s a good start and I agree with all this. Add competent management. 

Here are a couple of more things. I’m on a project to commercialize a Warp Speed drug which should be complimentary to Lenzilumab.If it’s efficacious, the US government will buy as much as we can make. I’ve seen the demand projections and I’ll tell you it’s not small or for short duration.

Lilly perhaps?

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On 9/11/2020 at 7:00 PM, Whyatt said:

That’s a good start and I agree with all this. Add competent management. 

Here are a couple of more things. I’m on a project to commercialize a Warp Speed drug which should be complimentary to Lenzilumab.If it’s efficacious, the US government will buy as much as we can make. I’ve seen the demand projections and I’ll tell you it’s not small or for short duration.

Hi Whyatt.  Are you still in this, and do you think it still has a legit shot.  I think the drug LL is the better of the 2 drugs, but I think HGEND is run much better and seems to be open to a buyout.  I'm trying to decide if I should get in for a small amount, and when to get in.

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2 hours ago, Chaz McNulty said:

Hi Whyatt.  Are you still in this, and do you think it still has a legit shot.  I think the drug LL is the better of the 2 drugs, but I think HGEND is run much better and seems to be open to a buyout.  I'm trying to decide if I should get in for a small amount, and when to get in.

Yes I haven’t sold since Friday.

Good news is my is account telling me I’m up $121k due to slowness in adjusting for the reverse split.

Good news for Hgen on 2 fronts today, mediocre results came out for the Actt-2 baricitinib trial and full speed ahead on HGEN’s phase 3 from the DSMB. 

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3 hours ago, Chaz McNulty said:

I think the drug LL is the better of the 2 drugs, 

Leron might be a slightly more promising drug than lenz but both have shown a lot of promise against Covid and both also have great safety profiles.  CYDY's market cap is 6 times as big as HGEND's market cap.  Is leron 6 times as good of a drug?  And then add in Humanigen being run competently, with Big Pharma ties, and already having gotten gov't money, it seems like lenz is more likely than leron to get Covid approval even if leron is a slightly better drug.  Another scenario is where they are both approved along with several other drugs that help patients marginally.  Patients might get a succession of drugs until one works.  Unlike Highlander, there can be more than one.

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43 minutes ago, Don Hutson said:

 And then add in Humanigen being run competently, with Big Pharma ties, and already having gotten gov't money, it seems like lenz is more likely than leron to get Covid approval even if leron is a slightly better drug.  

Your post seems on target to me (especially the line I've quoted), not sure why you are getting laughed at.

My biggest issue with Cytodyn is the lack of respect they have in the industry and also having any necessary political connections at all.  They have been left out of the equation by our government and I'm not sure why.

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2 hours ago, Dwayne Hoover said:

Your post seems on target to me (especially the line I've quoted), not sure why you are getting laughed at.

My biggest issue with Cytodyn is the lack of respect they have in the industry and also having any necessary political connections at all.  They have been left out of the equation by our government and I'm not sure why.

There's a story here; we just don't know what it is. My intuition tells me it goes back years. Burned bridges, maybe some shadiness. If NP has been as sloppy with his word choice and his overall organization over the decade as he's been in the few months I've gotten to know him, I'd bet there's a long line of people, possibly in important places, actively rooting against him.

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8 minutes ago, DEADHEAD said:

There's a story here; we just don't know what it is. My intuition tells me it goes back years. Burned bridges, maybe some shadiness. If NP has been as sloppy with his word choice and his overall organization over the decade as he's been in the few months I've gotten to know him, I'd bet there's a long line of people, possibly in important places, actively rooting against him.

Story is as simple as connections and $$$. It's becoming more and more evident that CYDY doesn't have them and needs LL to knock out the CD12 before it goes anywhere. 

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On 9/11/2020 at 9:12 PM, CR69 said:

Now it's all clear

You were meant to be here
From the beginning

Maybe I might have changed
And not been so cruel
Not been such a fool
Whatever was done is done
I just can't recall
It doesn't matter at all

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5 hours ago, Dwayne Hoover said:

Haven't heard from @chet in a long time

I am fishing in a remote part of Quebec wit limited wifi and no cell phone coverage.  I won't be able to hear the CC tomorrow but I do have a fireplace in my room.

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There was an interesting Twitter kerfuffle yesterday where an anti-quackery activist took Dr Yo and Dr Patterson to task for promoting an unproven drug.  Adam Feuerstein even joined in.  Here is the link to the exchange (you have to keep clicking to view more replies to see the whole back and forth)  https://twitter.com/IamBreastCancer/status/1305904244730376193

Apparently, Dr Yo doesn't disagree that CYDY might be a scam stock:

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I've got nothing against you guys thinking CYDY is scam. I got nothing to do with them. I think leronlimab has interesting MOA and potential. But I literally have nothing to do with them! I was just looking for something for my friend who was dying back in April.

 

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37 minutes ago, Don Hutson said:

There was an interesting Twitter kerfuffle yesterday where an anti-quackery activist took Dr Yo and Dr Patterson to task for promoting an unproven drug.  Adam Feuerstein even joined in.  Here is the link to the exchange (you have to keep clicking to view more replies to see the whole back and forth)  https://twitter.com/IamBreastCancer/status/1305904244730376193

Apparently, Dr Yo doesn't disagree that CYDY might be a scam stock:

 

Actually, makes Dr. Yo support/interest seem more genuine to me.

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49 minutes ago, Don Hutson said:

There was an interesting Twitter kerfuffle yesterday where an anti-quackery activist took Dr Yo and Dr Patterson to task for promoting an unproven drug.  Adam Feuerstein even joined in.  Here is the link to the exchange (you have to keep clicking to view more replies to see the whole back and forth)  https://twitter.com/IamBreastCancer/status/1305904244730376193

Apparently, Dr Yo doesn't disagree that CYDY might be a scam stock:

 

So we're not supposed to care that he was promoting it because he's an unprofessional quack on Twitter but when he says something potentially bad we should listen?

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3 minutes ago, CR69 said:

So we're not supposed to care that he was promoting it because he's an unprofessional quack on Twitter but when he says something potentially bad we should listen?

I don't think Dr Yo is qualified on either count.  He is an anesthesiologist.  He isn't an infectious disease expert or a business expert.

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57 minutes ago, Don Hutson said:

There was an interesting Twitter kerfuffle yesterday where an anti-quackery activist took Dr Yo and Dr Patterson to task for promoting an unproven drug.  Adam Feuerstein even joined in.  Here is the link to the exchange (you have to keep clicking to view more replies to see the whole back and forth)  https://twitter.com/IamBreastCancer/status/1305904244730376193

Apparently, Dr Yo doesn't disagree that CYDY might be a scam stock:

 

I don't know if that's what he's saying.  I've seen him say things along these lines before.

I think the main thing he's trying to hammer home is that he is not a paid shill for Cytodyn.  I dont necessarily think he's saying that it may be a scam stock.

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3 minutes ago, Don Hutson said:

I don't think Dr Yo is qualified on either count.  He is an anesthesiologist.  He isn't an infectious disease expert or a business expert.

Yeah, this is why you were getting the heisman in here before. It also says that Dr Yo doesn’t disagree that he is from Venus and it also says that Dr Yo doesn’t disagree that the earth may be flat.

You are way reading into that quote. To say a drug is a scam is the opposite of saying that it has an MOA and potential. Clearly he’s saying that he doesn’t have anything against the people who disagree because he doesn’t represent the company.

It’s very typical of what AF and shorts do. They interpret a statement only how they want to interpret it because the shorts 100% have a singular purpose and that is to make money however they can. Their whole we want to root out fraud is ridiculous. If that was the case they wouldn’t be making money at the same time. That’s pure conflict of interest and since there is not authority that can take them to task they can lie as much as they want and just walk away. Dr Yo is literally just trying to say he doesn’t have a conflict of interest, he’s not invalidating anything he’s said and he’s not supporting their theory of a scam.

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7 minutes ago, Dwayne Hoover said:

I don't know if that's what he's saying.  I've seen him say things along these lines before.

I think the main thing he's trying to hammer home is that he is not a paid shill for Cytodyn.  I dont necessarily think he's saying that it may be a scam stock.

Don is absolutely an investor first and happy to profit on the scam angle. He’s going to interpret it exactly how he wants and that’s one of the reasons why shorts can be very successful on this stock. Nader responds to their criticism and what shorts need is material to twist and warp.

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3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Don is absolutely an investor first and happy to profit on the scam angle. He’s going to interpret it exactly how he wants and that’s one of the reasons why shorts can be very successful on this stock. Nader responds to their criticism and what shorts need is material to twist and warp.

I don't think it's that sophisticated.

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3 minutes ago, identikit said:

I don't think it's that sophisticated.

Doesn’t need to be sophisticated to work. I mean do you read Dr Yo’s quote and see it as any bit of support that it’s a scam? Shorts word things to illicit the response they want. If you are able to get investors to believe it’s a scam that helps your short options. Instead of outright lying and saying Dr Yo says it’s a scam you say well he doesn’t disagree that it could be a scam. Not sophisticated at all but the point is to plant a seed of doubt and create more sales.

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2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Doesn’t need to be sophisticated to work. I mean do you read Dr Yo’s quote and see it as any bit of support that it’s a scam? Shorts word things to illicit the response they want. If you are able to get investors to believe it’s a scam that helps your short options. Instead of outright lying and saying Dr Yo says it’s a scam you say well he doesn’t disagree that it could be a scam. Not sophisticated at all but the point is to plant a seed of doubt and create more sales.

I'm not shorting the stock.  It's difficult to short an otc.  My Schwab account certainly doesn't allow it.  So I have zero skin in the game either way.  You and the other Truthers here, on the other hand, are longs.  And your opinions are blatantly unobjective.

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1 minute ago, Don Hutson said:

I'm not shorting the stock.  It's difficult to short an otc.  My Schwab account certainly doesn't allow it.  So I have zero skin in the game either way.  You and the other Truthers here, on the other hand, are longs.  And your opinions are blatantly unobjective.

:lmao: dude you sound just like the AF army. Weird that my schwab account would allow me to short this stock and yours will not, I assumed it was all the same. 

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10 minutes ago, Don Hutson said:

I'm not shorting the stock.  It's difficult to short an otc.  My Schwab account certainly doesn't allow it.  So I have zero skin in the game either way.  You and the other Truthers here, on the other hand, are longs.  And your opinions are blatantly unobjective.

I'm longish on CYDY.

 

I don't think the spin on either side is helpful at all.

 

 

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