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Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
HGEN feels like a good time to buy in, if you are into that sort of thing
arrow1
Footballguy
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
Sometimes having faith in this stock is akin to believing the Easter Bunny is going to come to visit in a month's time.
I don't think they hit their primary endpoint, I'll just leave it at that. Doesn't mean game over but that's where the holdup is if you ask me.
I don't think they hit their primary endpoint, I'll just leave it at that. Doesn't mean game over but that's where the holdup is if you ask me.
Capella
Footballguy
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
fully expecting a dip into the $3's tomorrow.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I expected the dip into the 3's a couple days ago. It's been very unpredictable this week.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
From Ihub regarding endpoints. FDA apparently changed guidelines 4 days ago...
generactor
Footballguy
The last patient would have hit 60 days around Feb 14th.
Dave RL
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
This makes the most sense but I have a dumb question. The OLE basically moved all the placebo patients on to LL, correct? When was that done? Presumably prior to 60 days. Wouldn't that make an analysis of 60 day endpoint impossible and necessitate a new study? I hope I am wrong.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
I would also think if they are going to look at 42 days or 60 days it will be done with the patients that were in the trial.
However I haven't been able to confirm or not if this is possible. None of the "experts" on the boards seem to know either
Adding new protocols in after trial is over is generally not allowed but we may be in a special situation here
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
Sell to Merck or PFE at $6 and you are approved, don't sell and you need to start a new trial.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
pOWer hour
ex-ghost
Footballguy
Dave RL
Footballguy
I don't think it did, You would have to know who the placebo participants were and that was only known last week at the earliest (or whenever the exact date of the unblinding happened).
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Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
The 60 day end point would help to explain what the delay is here. Last patient completed around Feb 15th, 7 days for database lock and then the 22nd of February, they unblind. This would be in line with the PR we got on Monday.
There really may be something to this. Hopefully it's for the best if there is.
There really may be something to this. Hopefully it's for the best if there is.
ChiefD
Footballguy
That’s awesome. Keep us posted once you get that installed. Really interested to see how that works.
chet
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
This. We get 6 mbps down and .5 up here. Its not bad really expect for ring needs around 2 up to work right. Starlink should be 100 mbps plus down and over 20 up. For 100 bucks a month. Current paying 65 dollars.
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Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
I try to find the signs that point to good things but overall my sentiment is seriously waning.
You have to suspend so much rational belief in order for this to come out on the other side the way we want it to.
I'm definitely conflicted at times because I want that lottery ticket but it doesn't add up rationally if you just look at this with no emotion tied to it.
You have to suspend so much rational belief in order for this to come out on the other side the way we want it to.
I'm definitely conflicted at times because I want that lottery ticket but it doesn't add up rationally if you just look at this with no emotion tied to it.
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
If the results don't blow it out, it's really hard to imagine the FDA is going to approve this tiny biotech with no proven track record. NP doesn't even inspire confidence in us but the FDA is going to risk it?
That we haven't seen any results yet, is not adding up. Maybe it got unblinded more recently than we thought, I can even suspend disbelief on that one. But then I need to imagine that the results are great on top of that and NP hasn't said a word.
Where is any mainstream publication showing any signs that they are even following this company? Certainly someone with some inside knowledge would have talked to someone where this would eventually trickle out. I don't think its "necessarily" in the FDAs best interest to blindside the country about this company that no one has heard of either. If they are really going to approve this, I think they would want to start rallying some knowledge and there would be leaks.
The last part is of course more of my opinion but makes sense to me.
That we haven't seen any results yet, is not adding up. Maybe it got unblinded more recently than we thought, I can even suspend disbelief on that one. But then I need to imagine that the results are great on top of that and NP hasn't said a word.
Where is any mainstream publication showing any signs that they are even following this company? Certainly someone with some inside knowledge would have talked to someone where this would eventually trickle out. I don't think its "necessarily" in the FDAs best interest to blindside the country about this company that no one has heard of either. If they are really going to approve this, I think they would want to start rallying some knowledge and there would be leaks.
The last part is of course more of my opinion but makes sense to me.
Steeler
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
just a gut feeling or does the lack of info tell you something specific (like they are in negotiations for roll out, etc.)?
chet
Footballguy
To me, it means that Nader is addressing logistical issues with the FDA and the British and Canadian equivalents. It's complicated to figure out production, distribution within the US and then negotiating supply for the foreign countries. Apart from manufacturing, these are not issues the company is familiar with and the FDA doesn't want to approve and then have it fail because of logistics.
chet
Footballguy
Also because FDA has had raw data for some time and they haven't pulled OLE or eIND usage. This all points to some kind of approval IMO.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Any chance the FDA is recommending a joint venture with a larger Pharma company? I'm sure they can't officially state that, but more like someone pulling NP aside and gently explaining that he is not capable of the logistics outlined above?
chet
Footballguy
Anything and everything is on the table. I am sure the FDA is concerned with Nader's "capabilities".
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
Of course they are and if NP has been stubborn about trying to partner up until this point, then that's another thing he's screwed up.
No idea if true because that would mean that another party actually needs to be interested.
chet
Footballguy
Do you think they'll have a problem attracting a partner if the results are good/spectacular?
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I couldn't imagine working with Nader. The only reason anyone knows about this product is because of Patterson, and NP sold him down the river. The guy is greasy.
Saying that, I am sure a big company would partner with anyone if the price was right, and you had an imminent approval.
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
No, they certainly would attract one then.
I'm imagining that there has been interest prior to that point though. Just don't know how stubborn NP has been in trying to secure things so that this can move along quickly.
Capella
Footballguy
chet
Footballguy
With so much volatility either way, I am sure NASDAQ wants to see results before uplisting. Could you imagine if they uplisted and then announced bad results? There'd be a lot of egg on NASDAQ's face.
