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15 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Just a thought on the convo with Joe (whom I'll leave out of this) further up about the division - this administration is different from prior Republican and Democratic administrations. We have all had philosophical/ideological/political discussions over the years, at the dinner table, with friends, with family, in forums.

- I think what just happened yesterday with Trump at his presser is illustrative - his reliance on a certifiable, absolute crazy person, Dr. Immanuel, in his massive twitter feed, for a proposition that his own FDA and medical team have thoroughly rejected, was raised by the press and he walked out on his own press conference. There have been hundreds and hundreds of these instances in his administration, where supporters are required to support him and take on these absurd positions that (almost) only he holds. It makes conversations and discussions maddening. Past Bush Sr/Bush Jr and Obama/Clinton administrations did not require this ludicrous display of arguing over reality.

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On 7/29/2020 at 8:45 AM, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Just a thought on the convo with Joe (whom I'll leave out of this) further up about the division - this administration is different from prior Republican and Democratic administrations. We have all had philosophical/ideological/political discussions over the years, at the dinner table, with friends, with family, in forums.

- I think what just happened yesterday with Trump at his presser is illustrative - his reliance on a certifiable, absolute crazy person, Dr. Immanuel, in his massive twitter feed, for a proposition that his own FDA and medical team have thoroughly rejected, was raised by the press and he walked out on his own press conference. There have been hundreds and hundreds of these instances in his administration, where supporters are required to support him and take on these absurd positions that (almost) only he holds. It makes conversations and discussions maddening. Past Bush Sr/Bush Jr and Obama/Clinton administrations did not require this ludicrous display of arguing over reality.

Spot on.  

Trumpism isn't so much a belief or a philosophy as much as it is a performance or an act.  It's about adopting whatever position you need to adopt at the time to tick off the liberals.  Almost none of these beliefs are held in good faith, which is why they get picked and later tossed aside on an as-needed basis.

I've always been a right-winger, but I've never been very attached to the Republican party itself.  It was very easy for me to write it off as a lost cause when Trump won the nomination.  I actually feel kind of bad for people in the party who aren't Trumpists by nature, but who got pulled along with it through tribal affiliation, and are now kind of stuck at what they surely know to be an intellectual dead end.    

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43 minutes ago, IvanKaramazov said:

 at what they surely know to be an intellectual dead end.    

Looks like Julian Sanchez and his "epistemic closure" quip was about right.

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On 7/30/2020 at 12:35 PM, urbanhack said:

It's funny I have a "friend" who loves to post about how the Democrats are communists driving the world toward outrageous socialism. I gave up cable news a long time ago but I can only imagine this is the Fox effect. They've been the party of austerity and means testing for my entire adult life and seem to be doubling down on it at a time when the country needs it most.

At this point I do hope Biden beats Trump soundly, but I'm even more hopeful that every single one of these people gets primaried from the left

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