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I'm not so sure about that. Kam Chancellor was a stud safety behind those same LB's. I tend to believe that Adams will have that same role and value.
Chancellor was vastly overrated. His best single-season total was 75 solos (twice) and 13.4 PPG in 2011. He was S6 that year but 2012 and 2013 he averaged 10.75 both years and was S27 and downhill from there. Last year 8 safeties (and 1 CB) averaged over 13.4 PPG. Adams was only at 14.0 when he had the field to himself and was used all over like that. Not sure he'll get that same action in this D.
There is a difference between being a stud NFL safety and being a stud NFL safety for fantasy purposes. Chancellor was a good NFL safety and was ok for IDP. Adams value in the IDP world takes a hit going to the Seahawks. He will still be a great NFL safety.
Hmmm...I just went back and checked. In our league, Kam finished:
In my scoring he was way off those stud years. He finished the following:
Yeah, I had just come to that conclusion myself. We score tackles and assists the same, so it probably makes a big difference as Kam had a lot of assists. No worries- makes for good conversation.
We do too at 1 pt each. But we give 3 pts for Pass break up and 7 pts for INT, and 8 pts for sack (total with QBH and TFL rolled into it). So if he doesn't pick off many passes, get breakups or sacks he falls pretty quick.
So, your league is basically big-play dependent. That makes sense as to why Kam would be ranked much lower. We do:
1 pt per tackle and assist
Yeah, but we do like the week-to-week consistency better than depending on big-play. That's the beauty of this game. Endless ways to play it. As long as we all have fun with it.
Yep......we like the big play scoring because it includes more players to be relevant (edge rushers primarily)
Oohh...good point. We added the "Edge" position this year for just that reason. Combined defensive ends with outside LB's in a 3-4 defense. Excited to see if it works well.
Gally got it right. With every sack, the player gets credit for a tackle as well as a sack. Occasionally, the stadium scoring crew will throw in a TFL as well...all for the same play. So, we decided to give the majority of credit for making a tackle, and if was a sack, they get the add-on points for the big play. BTW, 6 pts per tackle is for DB's. LB's get 5 and 2.5 for a sack or TFL.Hankmoody said:
The only time I have noticed that a TFL is not awarded on a sack is if it is a shared sack or if it was a play for no gain. A solo sack behind the line of scrimmage always received a TFL.
Puzzled? I thought that meant that I was thinking about what you said, as if to say, "Hmmmm, I hadn't thought about it that way. Interesting point!"...…...
I have always thought that emoji meant "interesting point, I hadn't thought about that..."
I am taking the risk and going after him. Its worth a shot and worst case he will be on the field a lot.
Yes, he should be owned in all leagues. It is very possible he is a top 10 DE the rest of the way. Quinn put up good numbers last year in Dallas and Smith is probably better at this point in their careers. I think Quinn's numbers from last year are Smith's floor.Blackbear said:
