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LIVE IN-PERSON DRAFTS : Having them? Any protocol? (1 Viewer)

Is your league still doing a live draft? If so, how?

  • No, we are always online because I'm antisocial and I love to hunch over my laptop.

    Votes: 4 8.2%

  • We usually draft live, but this year we're moving to online for safety

    Votes: 22 44.9%

  • We are still drafting Live, but are taking some precautions listed below.

    Votes: 17 34.7%

  • We are still drafting live, with no COVID precautions

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • Total voters
    49
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While some leagues dork it up and like to be hunched over their laptops in their parents basements doing soul-less online drafts, we all know TRUE FBG's host lavish Draft Parties with great food... beverages... entertainment... and of course a live draft with their league-mates. 
 

However, In the COVID era, this annual orgy of the senses is put to the test.

Are you still having an in person draft?

If so, are you taking protocols to mitigate risk?  What are they? 

 
We have 3 live drafts annually. 
 

1) Still live. Used to rent out catered meeting room & suites w open bar at casinos in Tunica. Shifting to Holding outside at league member's large outdoor kitchen/pavilion area. Afternoon of swimming/grilling/etc, then draft outside. 

2) Still life. Still holding inside the same member's home. Afternoon of swimming/grilling, early evening draft in their home bar area, then an evening of swimming and cocktails. 

3) Bar league - possibly skipping this year altogether. Waiting on details.

Risk Mitigation ideas we are considering:  

1) Temp checks of all owners at entry.

2) Check sense of taste / smell of all members on entry via different clear flavored drinks and scented items. 
 

 
I wish I had this problem to deal with....I've always wanted to do live drafting but nobody else in any of my 4 leagues is willing to travel to get together so we'll continue online as always.

 
We are planning on live drafts as usual and I am sure there will be some precautions taken.  Our area is fairly isolated and many in the league we see somewhat regularly so not sure how many of what precautions would be taken.  If anybody was that worried they probably stay home as the precaution (we do have some out of towners that are on line so that option is available). 

 
Lmao at option #1. 

for the first time in a decade & a half my IDP league is not drafting live at my house. No BBQ, no pony keg, no pizza (one of the league members owns an Extreme Pizza so he brings a keg of micro & 5-6  take & bakes), no backyard smoke session from the Fast Times at Ridgemont crew.

and it sucks. I’ll miss it all. It was supposed to double as my (+ another dude in my league with the same day) 50th BDay this year. 

but with 1 bathroom & 12 knuckleheads in a crowded space it’s just not worth the risk. Especially since we range in age from 30 to “half dead” so higher risk age groups.

also I’m not sure it’s legal, but that’s not as much of a concern as people’s health. 

Online draft + zoom. Easier cleanup for me, but otherwise it’s incredibly disappointing. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Lmao at option #1. 

for the first time in a decade & a half my IDP league is not drafting live at my house. No BBQ, no pony keg, no pizza (one of the league members owns an Extreme Pizza so he brings a keg of micro & 5-6  take & bakes), no backyard smoke session from the Fast Times at Ridgemont crew.

and it sucks. I’ll miss it all. It was supposed to double as my (+ another dude in my league with the same day) 50th BDay this year. 

but with 1 bathroom & 12 knuckleheads in a crowded space it’s just not worth the risk. Especially since we range in age from 30 to “half dead” so higher risk age groups.

also I’m not sure it’s legal, but that’s not as much of a concern as people’s health. 

Online draft + zoom. Easier cleanup for me, but otherwise it’s incredibly disappointing. 
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How many of these knucklheads are putting themselves at risk daily as it is?  Most of my circle of friends work from home stay isolated (other than typical store runs), wear masks and do the right thing.  Not saying there is no risk there but as things go sitting together to do a draft on a Saturday with those types is probably less risky than going to the store.   It also probably depends on your area and how prevalent the outbreak currently is. 

My point is if you are all fairly like minded and following recommended protocols the risk of getting together is minor. 

ETA:  I just want to clarify that my use of "knuckleheads" was a quote from the OP and not meant to be demeaning to his friends.  Hopefully @Hot Sauce Guy didn't take it that way.  After I re-read this I realized it could have been taken wrong. 

 
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cloppbeast said:
I don't see why we would do it different than any other social gathering I've been to this summer. Which is show up and bring your own beer. If you're scared to die stay home. 
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Sheesh. Pretty terrible attitude. It’s not just about you and your chance of dying. Just do it outdoors and sit 6 feet apart. 

 
It’s not clear whether either of my keeper leagues will attempt to play this year, so I’ll just comment on my redraft.

Traditionally we have held this on w weekend afternoon or weekday evening in a private room at a restaurant or country club. Many teams are co-owned by 2 people and as we’ve gotten older, some people have started bringing their kids. This makes for a crowded room.

Therefore, we are doing option 2. Our commish, who is a sleep medicine doc, says he is confident a season will happen, but that he thinks it is too risky to do what we usually do. So we have a date confirmed to do a draft online with Zoom.

 
Gally said:
How many of these knucklheads are putting themselves at risk daily as it is?  Most of my circle of friends work from home stay isolated (other than typical store runs), wear masks and do the right thing.  Not saying there is no risk there but as things go sitting together to do a draft on a Saturday with those types is probably less risky than going to the store.   It also probably depends on your area and how prevalent the outbreak currently is. 

My point is if you are all fairly like minded and following recommended protocols the risk of getting together is minor. 
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It also depends on who in the league has preexisting conditions / comorbidities or family situations that would be risky.

One guy with diabetes, another with a kid with medical conditions he wouldn’t want to put at extra risk.  Another with a wife with some medical issues as well.

It’s not always about keeping ourselves safe. 

And yes, we do expose ourselves to risk every day in everything we do. It’s why I only bring orders to the post office 2x a week instead of daily, despite that making it harder. But it minimizes exposure.

I have to work to put food on my table, so I go to my farmers market booth 2x a week. We have mask policies, distancing rules, it’s outdoors, etc, but I am still putting myself at risk by dealing with a lot of people and handling money. 

but when I need something these days I always stop to ask myself either “do I really need this thing enough to put myself at risk of getting ill or dying for it?”

sometimes the answer is yes. Sometimes no. Sometimes i consolidate those trips to purchase more things I need, so I make less trips. 

I’ve lost a friend to COVID. I have another with permanent lung damage. So the “new normal” to me includes minimizing contact. 

So yeah - we probably *could* draft live & possibly be low risk. But it’s not “no risk”. 

it is what it is. We all make the best choices we can these days to keep ourselves and our loved ones safe. 

i hope everyone at FBG stays safe & healthy as we collectively get through this thing. 

 
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ETA:  I just want to clarify that my use of "knuckleheads" was a quote from the OP and not meant to be demeaning to his friends.  Hopefully @Hot Sauce Guy didn't take it that way.  After I re-read this I realized it could have been taken wrong. 
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REPORTED! :angry:

:lol:  

I took none offense to it whatsoever. My friends/league-mates are all awesome folks, and I did indeed refer to them as knuckleheads. I took no issue with it whatsoever, to the point that I didn’t really notice you said that. Didn’t even register, must less taken as an insult. 

all good, but thanks for taking the time to clarify. 

 
Gally said:
How many of these knucklheads are putting themselves at risk daily as it is?  Most of my circle of friends work from home stay isolated (other than typical store runs), wear masks and do the right thing.  Not saying there is no risk there but as things go sitting together to do a draft on a Saturday with those types is probably less risky than going to the store.   It also probably depends on your area and how prevalent the outbreak currently is. 

My point is if you are all fairly like minded and following recommended protocols the risk of getting together is minor. 
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This is the approach we are taking. In my State, which was once a hot spot, cases have dwindled down to virtually nothing and restrictions have been eased. We are allowed to have indoor gatherings of at least 25 people so 12-15 people outside (in a backyward at the shore) should be fine.

We've all followed protocols throughout the process and we will be holding our draft in person outside.

There's really far less risk than going food shopping or out to dinner.

 
There's really far less risk than going food shopping or out to dinner.
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while true, some folks aren’t doing those things either.

I’m in the SF Bay Area & Alameda County is currently a hot spot.

added to that the concerns of people peripheral to league members, we’ll draft remotely. 

no risk > low risk, but I do agree if you live somewhere that’s relatively under control it’s probably fine.

if I lived in Florida I’d be wearing a Hazmat suit lookin like Heisenberg every time I stepped out the house & would have a flame thrower to sterilize any (person/pet/thing) that came into my door. Context does matter for sure. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
while true, some folks aren’t doing those things either.

I’m in the SF Bay Area & Alameda County is currently a hot spot.

added to that the concerns of people peripheral to league members, we’ll draft remotely. 

no risk > low risk, but I do agree if you live somewhere that’s relatively under control it’s probably fine.

if I lived in Florida I’d be wearing a Hazmat suit lookin like Heisenberg every time I stepped out the house & would have a flame thrower to sterilize any (person/pet/thing) that came into my door. Context does matter for sure. 
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No one has to come to our draft. In fact one long term member opted out for this season.

We have 2 teams that draft remotely every year due to location so we live draft in person and in the draft room at the same time, so they can follow along. So that option is available to anyone that has any concerns as well. 

 
Live draft last 30 years so not changing now.  We are drafting outdoors with some precautions.  Still deciding if my back deck or outside a local bar that has a covered area.  Of note, only 3 of the 12 teams had problems with inside bar draft.  

 
Our league has the same issues (we typically do it in the back room of a local restaurant). The only problem with doing it "outside" is of course weather. And not just rain. Guys are spread out with papers and stuff (us old school guys) and so a windy day is not going to work either. I'd say half my league has expressed or will express concerns about the indoor drafting this year. 

 
scattered our all in person live draft to online but smaller groups of live gatherings, kinda by friend/family groups, probably 5 smaller groups.  Might setup a zoom meeting or something to try and connect the remote sites with some video as well.

 
I typically have two online drafts and two in person drafts. I am curious how one of my in-person drafts will work through Zoom, since the average age for the league is probably 70. As it is I occasionally help a member with tech support and it literally takes an hour to explain over the phone how to open the control panel, much less actually fix anything. I think getting them all using Zoom will be interesting. To be fair, some of them have been using Zoom to stay in contact with family and stuff, so it is not like every 70 year old cannot figure it out, but it only takes 1 to make the draft start 3 hours late. 

 
Rodrigo Duterte said:
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Anosmia (loss of smell/taste) is a leading early symptom (59.4%) of COVID in the Euro Strain... even moreso (and earlier) than fever (45.4%). 

It does sound silly... but it is a quick / simple / effective test if you're interested in trying to avoid your draft becoming a hotspot.

Some don't care / aren't afraid of catching/transmitting the virus. This probably isn't the thread for those people  :)  

Either way let's keep thread on topic (Approach to drafting during pandemic) 

 
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Anosmia (loss of smell/taste) is a leading early symptom (59.4%) of COVID in the Euro Strain... even moreso (and earlier) than fever (45.4%). 

It does sound silly... but it is a quick / simple / effective test if you're interested in trying to avoid your draft becoming a hotspot.

Some don't care / aren't afraid of catching/transmitting the virus. This probably isn't the thread for those people  :)  

Either way let's keep thread on topic (Approach to drafting during pandemic) 
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You think having people smell and taste drinks is an effective test for covid?

 
starks said:
If this isn’t satire then you are why football might not happen. If so no b*tching from you
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If we had an old guy in our league or a person who's unhealthy, we would make arrangements for him to feel safe. Logically though, that person should probably just stay home, am I right?

So I guess it's half satire; and I'm definitely not part of the reason there won't be football. The vast majority of Americans apparently lacking any type of risk calculation or understanding in statistics, the media taking advantage of these folks is the reason why there will not be football or school this fall.

 
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Hot Sauce Guy said:
Lmao at option #1. 

for the first time in a decade & a half my IDP league is not drafting live at my house. No BBQ, no pony keg, no pizza (one of the league members owns an Extreme Pizza so he brings a keg of micro & 5-6  take & bakes), no backyard smoke session from the Fast Times at Ridgemont crew.

and it sucks. I’ll miss it all. It was supposed to double as my (+ another dude in my league with the same day) 50th BDay this year. 

but with 1 bathroom & 12 knuckleheads in a crowded space it’s just not worth the risk. Especially since we range in age from 30 to “half dead” so higher risk age groups.

also I’m not sure it’s legal, but that’s not as much of a concern as people’s health. 

Online draft + zoom. Easier cleanup for me, but otherwise it’s incredibly disappointing. 
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Yea, stuff like this is why I will miss the live drafts this year, while online drafting is fun from a strategy perspective, getting together and bsing for 8 hours is the best, especially if you rarely get together outside of events like this. PS, if you need one more let me know, one of my live drafts is typically just down the freeway from you 😉 

 
None of us are over 60, have any comorbidities, or frankly, buy into the hype. Maybe it's because we're all so science and numbers- oriented. 

At any rate, one of our league members opened a bar this year, so we'll have our annual live fiasco there. 

 
Dr. Octopus said:
You do know that in many areas social gatherings of small(ish) groups is allowed, right?
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Yea. And while some are responsible about it the majority of Americans aren’t which is why we are where we are today with this and the rest of the world for the most part has moved on with success 

 
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starks said:
Yea. And while some are responsible about it the majority of Americans aren’t which is why we are where we are today with this and the rest of the world for the most part has moved on with success 
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How do you know the guy you replied to and his friends weren’t being responsible?

 
We're drafting online thru the league website, but also doing a zoom conference for shtick and ball-busting

 
One draft is always online. The other draft is probably going to be in-person. Not too worried, though. We'll probably have it outdoors, and we only had 15 new cases Wednesday, out of a population of over 900k (in the county). 

 
We are doing it at a local BW3s, same as normal...  10 owners.  I would think that BWs will spread us out a little more this year.

 
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