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Yup! Except some of the guys ranked high like Hockenson & Engram, maybe.
AyuhYup! Except some of the guys ranked high like Hockenson & Engram, maybe.
heck would you be shocked by an Eifort resurgence in JAX? I mean, it’s not likely but it’s possible. He’s got talent and opportunity.
this is a great year to punt on TE until late is my take-away.
There are a lot of potential breakout TE's. Not all of them can be rostered in normal leagues. Hoarding is the right move in deep/dynasty leagues, but in norms? Make a decision in the top 25. Then wait and see if one of the others falls too far. And if not pick your favorite in the pile BUT be sure it's one you won't hesitate dumping if things go awry early. If it's one of those hold types then don't.
So you’re predicting a rookie will be a top 10 TE? Do you know how often that has happened?
Logan Thomas is the one no one is talking about but may give you solid production all season, and he’s free
Guess it depends on how deep you're talking but I play mostly FFPC stuff that is TE premium so I'm targeting the mid tier guys a bit earlier. But lower tier guys like Arnold, Knox, Akers, OJ Howard is going super late, so is Olsen, Logan Thomas probably needs added to my board, Eifert. Sample? Burton?
I think he balls out this year. In FPC (TE premium) he is going between the 5th and 7th round.
That's nonsense. I consistently knock TE out of the park with late picks. Every damn year I exploit the argument you're making. My record is *way* better than 1 in 50. And if you're in a 12 team league it needs to better than 1 in 12 or you're doing it wrong. I don't have an issue with taking shots at RB or WR but there really isn't any such thing as a wasted late pick. There should be room for you to not have to choose between those positions. You should be able to take fliers at all positions. Unless they're really short benches.
Ok so now that I've read thru I gotta say there is a pretty wide chasm between the reality of a TE premium league and others.
Top 10 isn't happening. I would be shocked if either hit top 20.
Agree 100% But the lack of wr weapons leaves the door open for some te value (for once) there for sure. It’s definitely a dart throw but it’s a late one
Fantasy footballers just had him in an episode and had some interesting things to say. They are usually down on cardinals players to not be homers. I think he is going to be fun to watch. I own him everywhere
8.Henry, Hunter LAC TE 150.20 12.52
Through 16 weeks, using FBG PPR historical stats, TE8 was Dallas Goedert at 138.2 points. TE19 was Jonnu Smith with 104.0 points. 2.1375 points, which I rounded down to two for simplicity. So yes, I was completely wrong when I said it was "less" than 2 points. I should have said the difference between TE8 and TE19 was approximately 2 points.
You lost me, buddy. I have no idea what you are referring to with PPG ranking
Since 30 teams have at least 1 TE mentioned in this thread in one form or another, I'm going to nominate Jared Cook and Jimmy Graham as my TE sleepers.
Dividing all of them by 16 is just wrong. But even with a 2.13 pts advantage, I'll take it. It isn't coming at the expense of jack squat. Still taking those other late shots at RB and WR as well.
Yep. I snagged Waller everywhere, and though I didn't take home a championship, he kept me massively afloat in leagues.
I cashed in pretty big because of them, also because of the WR6 thru 8 weeks known as the New England Patriots defense/special teams. But I swear half the teams in these leagues (TE premium at that) just completely blow off the idea of cheaper guys emerging. Even though it seems to happen every season.
I'd look for Herndon at his ADP this year. The coach loves him, and the coach speaks ill of everybody on that team besides Bradford, who he can't diss publicly. He had nothing but glowing reports on him and there's nobody else for targets at the moment. Mims is raw. Perriman is already hurt. It's a mess.
Yeah I'm all over Herndon. I have him in 4/6 dynasties and in 6 of my 12 FPC redrafts. In that TE premium redraft format he is going between 7th and 10th round. And most people seem to think he is JAG and anyone not named Kittle or Kelce is trash.
This is a good point as long as you (1) only draft one TE with the intention of streaming until they hit or (2) taking two very late TEs that have the buzz you mentioned above.
1 2.06 Travis Kelce TE KC 17.8 3.5 1.04 2.12 114
2 3.07 George Kittle TE SF 31.1 5.0 1.11 4.07 100
3 4.01 Zach Ertz TE PHI 37.3 4.5 2.11 4.12 105
4 5.06 O.J. Howard TE TB 54.1 5.9 3.12 6.05 62
5 5.12 Evan Engram TE NYG 60.0 7.8 2.12 6.11 72
6 6.04 Hunter Henry TE LAC 63.9 5.7 4.08 7.01 74
7 7.01 Jared Cook TE NO 72.9 4.5 6.04 7.11 53
8 7.06 Vance McDonald TE PIT 77.8 6.4 6.02 9.02 56
9 7.12 David Njoku TE CLE 83.8 7.9 6.09 9.05 37
10 9.03 Delanie Walker TE TEN 98.7 14.0 7.06 11.12 46
11 10.02 Eric Ebron TE IND 109.9 17.4 7.01 12.10 45
12 11.10 Mark Andrews TE BAL 129.7 16.3 6.11 14.06 102
13 11.10 Trey Burton TE CHI 130.3 17.6 7.05 13.10 56
14 13.05 Austin Hooper TE ATL 149.2 21.1 7.01 15.12 129I think this is the biggest disconnect. The redrafts I play in have such short rosters (typical ESPN/Yahoo leagues) that it rarely makes sense to draft/roster even a 2nd TE. And none of them are TE premium.
Ah, yes. Same here. But I actually win and have won by waiting to pick that solitary TE very late. I relegate them to kicker status, almost. When I reach for a TE that's elite, my team stinks. Perhaps that's the fault of the drafter, but other people have commented on the phenomenon. I will say this: The one dynasty deep league I'm in, I have bupkis. O.J. Howard and Everett. It's times like that where the Tiers become important and those top guys become really valuable. You can also see the teams who are hoarding them. It's like they have a Spidey Sense about them or something. It's really quite prescient and takes quite a good eye to do that.
By this type of analysis a 2 point margin is significant enough for a tier break at any position.
Sure, if you can predict it beforehand. I'll ask you to name the 2020 TE8 and TE19 today and see how far off you are in January.
I agree on Dan Arnold. He is the best catching TE the Cardinals have plus Kingsbury and Murray have been praising him like crazy. Kingsbury runs a passing offense and it will only increase this year. When Kingsbury talked about Drake he talks about his increase role in the passing game. This is a passing offense and I think Arnold will benefit along with Kirk with the presence of Hopkins.Dan Arnold
Kingsbury said he wants to design the offense around Dan Arnold. He is the pass catching TE there. Of all the TEs mentioned I imagine he finishes highest compared to his ADP
WTF? Where did Kingsbury say he's "designing the offence around Dan Arnold"? Was that supposed to be a joke?
