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5 hours ago, knowledge dropper said:

Can he bring some of his UFC guys to serve as “lumberjacks?”

Funny story but in the early 2000’s (the early days of the UFC) I ran a big bar and nightclub in downtown San Diego.  Ken Shamrock use to come in a fair amount, he was probably the biggest name in the sport at the time along with Tito Ortiz.  Ken was running a gym in town filled with UFC fighters, long story short after a few conversations almost my entire security staff was made up of them.  Was that way for years. I lost track of how many times we’d watch a fight on TV that Saturday and be rooting for guys we worked with.  Almost to a man they were some of the nicest guys I’ve met.  

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On 9/30/2020 at 2:47 PM, Widbil83 said:

I know for sure Rogan wouldn’t interrupt every 2 seconds to save Biden liken Wallace did.

That's a fair point. If someone in a debate interrupts people every 2 seconds then it isn't really a debate at all..... and that person certainly shouldn't be allowed in the room if thy can't conduct themselves like an adult for an hour or so. 

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13 hours ago, Terminalxylem said:

My degree is in biochemistry, but I’ve taken nutrition classes and kept up reasonably well with the clinical literature. One of my close friends runs an academic weight management center/bariatric clinic and a regular climbing buddy is a nutritionist, so it’s a frequent topic of discussion. FWIW, both of those guys are vegan, and neither grew up that way. 

My gestalt of the available data sides with the healthfulness of a plant-based diet, though I’m not sure strict veganism is better than near vegetarism, especially pescatarianism. I think people get too caught up with rapid weight loss and counting something towards their goals, be it calories, fat or more recently, carbohydrate intake. I believe functional longevity is the most relevant goal of any diet, and pretty much all long lived populations consume plant-based, minimally processed diets. Although unprocessed is good, I don’t think there’s a lot on mainstream scientific support for primitive meaty diets like those condoned by Rogan and some of his guests.

I’m familiar with Salatin through reading The Omnivore’s Dilemma - great book, btw. I know and appreciate his general philosophy of farming, but will check out the podcast and report back later. But realize my bias is fairly anti-meat from the get-go. 

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts.   I’ve been considering a vegan stint but have found my best gains in the gym have been when I consuming 4-5 meals of 25 grams of protein. Doing this with vegetarian sources pushes my caloric intake above my base burn rate unless I’m ultra training. I do think vegan would work for me if I keep my cardio up to burn the excess calories 

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13 hours ago, Terminalxylem said:

My degree is in biochemistry, but I’ve taken nutrition classes and kept up reasonably well with the clinical literature. One of my close friends runs an academic weight management center/bariatric clinic and a regular climbing buddy is a nutritionist, so it’s a frequent topic of discussion. FWIW, both of those guys are vegan, and neither grew up that way. 

My gestalt of the available data sides with the healthfulness of a plant-based diet, though I’m not sure strict veganism is better than near vegetarism, especially pescatarianism. I think people get too caught up with rapid weight loss and counting something towards their goals, be it calories, fat or more recently, carbohydrate intake. I believe functional longevity is the most relevant goal of any diet, and pretty much all long lived populations consume plant-based, minimally processed diets. Although unprocessed is good, I don’t think there’s a lot on mainstream scientific support for primitive meaty diets like those condoned by Rogan and some of his guests.

I’m familiar with Salatin through reading The Omnivore’s Dilemma - great book, btw. I know and appreciate his general philosophy of farming, but will check out the podcast and report back later. But realize my bias is fairly anti-meat from the get-go. 

Thanks and I look forward to your thoughts.   I’ve been considering a vegan stint but have found my best gains in the gym have been when I consuming 4-5 meals of 25 grams of protein. Doing this with vegetarian sources pushes my caloric intake above my base burn rate unless I’m ultra training. I do think vegan would work for me if I keep my cardio up to burn the excess calories 

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