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Bookmakers dropped Trump's odds today. They must not know about the telemundo twitter poll.

My thoughts for what it's worth, as someone who has watched I believe every debate in its entirety back through 2000. As far as how they responded to the questions, I thought it was fairly even.

Without question this is the biggest waste of air time in American history. ย I can not fathom one single person being moved off their position because of this embarrassment called a โ€œdebateโ€.ย ย Weโ€™ve l

Just now, unckeyherb said:

If he was talking about philly specifically, which I think he was, this has been an ongoing issue for generations. ย And not by Republicans.ย 

The left will never let a fair and honest election happen. โ€œVote early, vote oftenโ€

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1 minute ago, Thunderlips said:

The guy didn't condemn White Supremcy.......and told them to Stand by.ย  So I'd say....yeah, the POTUS knows something about his base.

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Do you think he just made a typical Trump gaffe....or do you think he doesn't want to condemn White Supremacy?ย ย 

That was really weird. I donโ€™t think heโ€™s a racist but he didnโ€™t react in a good way. Maybe thrown off by the question, I donโ€™t know.ย 

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My 17 year old daughter watched some tonight - she asked me if this was a normal debate.ย  I said no, there's nothing about that debate that was normal.ย  And yet, there's still folks that find it "glorious" - very telling.

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5 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

When he was allowed to talk for more than 30s at a time maybe.ย  ย BUT he sank to Trump's level and threw out the "clown" and "racist" stuff, so not sure how much a win it was.ย 

I don't really think that Joe resorted to less than savory rhetoric unprovoked.ย ย 

To that,ย  I think all the ammo for future political ads fell into Bidens lap.ย ย 

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2 minutes ago, tonydead said:

No really big gaffe (except maybe the green deal, no green deal), but, hes clearly not there.ย  Lots of unenthusiastic left voters just sitting this one out. Got destroyed with Hunter.ย 

Yes, he didnโ€™t support the green new deal (his website says otherwise) then he said the green new deal would pay for itself. Destroyed on Hunter. Looked foolish bringing up the โ€œlosersโ€ hoax. Grasping at straws

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2 minutes ago, unckeyherb said:

If he was talking about philly specifically, which I think he was, this has been an ongoing issue for generations. ย And not by Republicans.ย 

I donโ€™tย care where...that is not a good thing toย be calling for. ย Actually illegal.

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3 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

Needs to be coached better toย ignore all that. ย But bestย thing for him is he came off competent and mentally fit and talked to the camera.

I hear you.ย  I just wish there was somebody a little more Presidential and above that b.s. on the other side of the equation though.ย ย 

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Bloomberg is doing a very interesting segment saying that the biggest takeaway from this debate is a newfound lack of enthusiasm. That the undecided ethos is now, "to hell with it." That people were so angry and disappointed in what happened that they are turned off the whole election.

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1 minute ago, I-ROK said:

Yes, he didnโ€™t support the green new deal (his website says otherwise) then he said the green new deal would pay for itself. Destroyed on Hunter. Looked foolish bringing up the โ€œlosersโ€ hoax. Grasping at straws

Framework doesnโ€™t ย equal support.

Destroyed on Hunter? ย That was a big Trump loss. ย A total miscue by him.

Losers was not a hoax and hit well with military and veteran families IMO.

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1 minute ago, The Dude said:

When he went after hunter, Biden should have replied โ€œbe bestโ€ and laughed

Your cool with a Hunter Biden flying to China on Air Force 2 with Joe and getting a $1 billion dollar contract somehow a year after he is kicked out of the military for drugs? Not to mention the recent $3.5 million he got from Russia because of Joe.

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3 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

My 17 year old daughter watch some tonight - she asked me if this was a normal debate, I said no, there's nothing about that debate that was normal.ย  And yet, there's still folks that find it "fabulous" - very telling.

My teen was 1/2 playing games and 1/2 watching.ย  At one point, I hear "wait, did he just call Trump a clown??"

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10 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

I would release a statement that Trump is a bully, a liar and has no plan - there's no reason to debate him again.

Nah, calling him a bully would just make Biden look weak. He would be better off calling him undignified or impertinent. Itโ€™s a lot harder to spin dignity or respectfulness into negatives.

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2 minutes ago, Thunderlips said:

I don't really think that Joe resorted to less than savory rhetoric unprovoked.ย ย 

To that,ย  I think all the ammo for future political ads fell into Bidens lap.ย ย 

I thought it was interesting that Trump never even really tried to use the platform to talk to the people.ย 

I think Biden could have been a lot stronger but just by taking that opportunity and showing a general level of decency (he could have been better there too but it was 1/100th as bad as Trump) he'll come away well.ย 

It seems like Trump knows he's not winning anyone new, so he'll play the hits and try to make the whole thing so unappealing that turnout is low.ย 

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Just now, Widbil83 said:

Your cool with a Hunter Biden flying to China on Air Force 2 with Joe and getting a $1 billion dollar contract somehow a year after he is kicked out of the military for drugs? Not to mention the recent $3.5 million he got from Russia because of Joe.

Nobody cares about this. Its not a vote changer. And rich coming from the Trump camp.

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6 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

Framework doesnโ€™t ย equal support.

Destroyed on Hunter? ย That was a big Trump loss. ย A total miscue by him.

Losers was not a hoax and hit well with military and veteran families IMO.

He never said those words. I think youโ€™re confusing him with the video of Biden calling military stupid bastards and dull

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3 minutes ago, mr roboto said:

If you liked how Trump performed - Iโ€™m really sorry for you. Like if this is what you actually like?

My life is like this.ย  But I am a real estate developer leading larger deals than Trump's.ย  This how we act when things are heated.ย  My bosses -and I at times - are worse than Trump.ย  Often times much worse.

For real.

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First time back in months. ย Looks like a lot of the same people saying the same things. ย Believe it or not, most of us aren't on the left or right. ย 

Trump needs to overcome 10 pts. ย If anything, coming of like a bully and a child might keep some of his voters at home. ย 

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2 minutes ago, leftcoastheel said:

My life is like this.ย  But I am a real estate developer leading larger deals than Trump's.ย  This how we act when things are heated.ย  My bosses -and I at times - are worse than Trump.ย  Often times much worse.

For real.

So youโ€™re also unfit for office. Thanks for sharing.

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3 minutes ago, leftcoastheel said:

My life is like this.ย  But I am a real estate developer leading larger deals than Trump's.ย  This how we act when things are heated.ย  My bosses -and I at times - are worse than Trump.ย  Often times much worse.

For real.

That's not something to be proud of.

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1 minute ago, sho nuff said:

If you say so...

Itโ€™s not me, itโ€™s every single person in the room with him when he was claimed to have said that.
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this fell apart faster than they could print headlines. You might be one of two people to actually believe this happened. Joe is the other, maybe, if he even remembersย 

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9 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

Your cool with a Hunter Biden flying to China on Air Force 2 with Joe and getting a $1 billion dollar contract somehow a year after he is kicked out of the military for drugs? Not to mention the recent $3.5 million he got from Russia because of Joe.

There are a lot of Hunter deniers here. Itโ€™s incredible. It really is

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7 minutes ago, mr roboto said:

If you liked how Trump performed - Iโ€™m really sorry for you. Like if this is what you actually like?

I don't think Biden performed "well."ย  If you like how he performed, I'm really sorry for you.ย  Like if this is what you actually like?

You're "happy" with it because Trump acted like a baffoon.ย ย 

But Biden multiple times was asked a question and gave a completely different answer.ย  "I was asking sir about masks."

"Will you pack the courts?"ย  "Whatever answer I give doesn't matter.ย  The American people need to go vote"ย  Rah rah rah!ย  Go vote!ย  Who cares if I pack the court?ย  Maybe I will, maybe I won't.ย  But go vote!

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7 minutes ago, SoBeDad said:

Nobody cares about this. Its not a vote changer. And rich coming from the Trump camp.

Itโ€™s not so much the corruption you donโ€™t care about thatโ€™s telling but more so how the Left got worked up about the Russia hoax for years literally then completely turns a blind eye of the last name is Biden. Just interesting to watch.ย 

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Just now, Rhythmdoctor said:

If y'all want REAL change, vote for someone other than Trump or Biden.ย  Red, blue both the same team.ย  You want to shake the establishment, get a 3rd party to win a few states.

As one of the most "radical" political people on this forum, that's a great way to throw away your vote. You simply cannot change this country by voting 3rd party. It isn't designed that way.

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8 minutes ago, Maurile Tremblay said:
44 minutes ago, Phil Elliott said:

I have said before they should shut the microphones off until itsย their turn or when they go over.

I've been saying this forever aboutย everyย TV talk show with multiple guests. It would be so simple.

Unfortunately thatโ€™s clearly not become the point. The Jerry Springer model is obviously what is in full force now and has been for a while. ย 

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As a Biden supporter, I'm very happy with the way things turned out tonight.ย  ย I was afraid things could've been a lot worse.ย  Some mental sluggish which was to be expected, but overall very solid.ย Aside from playing the law and order card and trying to win over suburban housewives, I don't see another group that Trump's going to be able to tap into to make up his deficit.ย  He doesn't have any semblance of a plan to tackle the myriad of problems that we face as country.ย ย  ย 

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3 minutes ago, mcintyre1 said:

That's not something to be proud of.

I like it.ย  I get to do something different and challenging every day,ย  assemble and lead large teams of people and navigate very complicated, difficult, stressful processes to create thousands and thousands of jobs and billions of dollars of economic activity at the same time.ย  It's rewarding.

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