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My guess is Hillary 2024. Maybe Pete. But I can assure you this. It will be the worst candidate possible. They got a knack for that.
Just have a feeling we are going to lose no matter who wins. Don`t like the direction of either party right now.apalmer said:If Biden loses, the next loser is everyone in the United States.
I can get on board with this as well.Just have a feeling we are going to lose no matter who wins. Don`t like the direction of either party right now.
If Trump were to win this November per the thread title question, what % chance do you think it would be he tried to run for a 3rd term?Terminalxylem said:The better question is, will Trump run again?
I think it’s been kind of an known thing that Biden is a one-termed who is only doing this to get Joffrey out of the White House. Like many presidents before him, Biden is doing this for country and not himself.Terminalxylem said:I don’t think he’ll run for a second term.
The better question is, will Trump run again?
The reason society has gotten this way, is because Republicans and Democrats sold us out. We went from a solid democratic state to corporate oligarchy in a very short time. The Bush administration really catalyzed all of this after 9/11.I can get on board with this as well.
We need to get back to moderate centrist politics. But how....how will we ever back to be being decent human beings and compromising when our society is turning into "divided lines" in the sand and an all or nothing agenda.
It is truly sad and it is a real problem.
Sorry, my post was a subtle rebuttal to the concept of when Biden loses.If Trump were to win this November per the thread title question, what % chance do you think it would be he tried to run for a 3rd term?
I expect President Harris to be the almost automatic nominee.Cjw_55106 said:I dont think Biden loses. That said, 4 years is a long time for someone to emerge. If Biden wins, I expect Harris to be the top of the ticket in 2024.
While not trying to be cavalier about it, I don't think Biden serves a full term. Hopefully that's because he resigns and then gets healthier.I hope Biden only serves one term; same for Kamala.
I would love to see a string of one-term. It would’ve good for our country to weaken the Executive branch.
Pipe dream more than likely, but that would be my wish.
She couldn't even do well in her own primary. She's a horrible candidate.Harris serves 6ish years, then someone without a huge following at this point takes the house back for the GoP in 2028.
That isn't true, she ran out of money. And if you think she is so horrible just watch the debate next week with Pence. I wish she was also allowed to face Trump tonight, along with Joe.She couldn't even do well in her own primary. She's a horrible candidate.
From a left wing news source:That isn't true, she ran out of money. And if you think she is so horrible just watch the debate next week with Pence. I wish she was also allowed to face Trump tonight, along with Joe.
She ran out of money because her campaign did not connect with voters. It wasn’t a great finish for someone with considerable hype going in.That isn't true, she ran out of money. And if you think she is so horrible just watch the debate next week with Pence. I wish she was also allowed to face Trump tonight, along with Joe.
This says more about our corrupt justice system than it does about Scott. But since Trump paved the way, sure why not go full kleptocracy.Scott was not charged with a crime.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?She ran out of money because her campaign did not connect with voters. It wasn’t a great finish for someone with considerable hype going in.
I wish I shared your optimism.when Biden is gone the socialists will finally take over the party
And Joe Biden never got more than 1% in Iowa in his previous attempts.She couldn't even do well in her own primary. She's a horrible candidate.
That shows you how bad the current State of the Union and the current resident in the Oval Office is.How many eligible incumbents have ever chosen not to run for a second term?
Cleveland in his second stint?
LBJ, technically?
Just seems so rare to have a major candidate that most people seem to believe won't possibly be in office eight years from now, if elected.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiI5dA4WsAA2SLA?format=jpg&name=smallI think when Biden loses Bill de Blasio becomes much more visible in the Democrat party. I never understood why he didn’t gain any traction his first attempt, but when Biden is gone the socialists will finally take over the party. And de Blasio is the perfect figurehead.
I think you're going to find that you're vastly under-rating Pence.That isn't true, she ran out of money. And if you think she is so horrible just watch the debate next week with Pence. I wish she was also allowed to face Trump tonight, along with Joe.
She'll do MUCH better next go round, especially if she happens to be the incumbent.She couldn't even do well in her own primary. She's a horrible candidate.
Who knew, despite everything they claim, Democrats don't like women with substance. (Ok, this is overboard.) Still, Harris and Warren would have been better Presidents than Biden or Hillary.She ran out of money because her campaign did not connect with voters. It wasn’t a great finish for someone with considerable hype going in.
AgreedAnd Joe Biden never got more than 1% in Iowa in his previous attempts.
If the administration is successful (or at least considered to be successful by D primary voters), she’ll have a very viable path.
Pence has the personality of a saltine cracker. He's almost as unlikeable as McConnell except Mitch actually stands for something.I think you're going to find that you're vastly under-rating Pence.
After everything, weren’t he, Marianne & Gravel the only ones to endorse Bernie? I think his was just a ‘#### you’ to Mike Bloomberg too, lol.
Pretty solid performance heading up the Coronavirus Task Force.I think you're going to find that you're vastly under-rating Pence.
Polk, Buchanan, Hayes, Coolidge (if, like LBJ, not counting term finished as successor) come to mind as some others. But agree it is pretty rare.How many eligible incumbents have ever chosen not to run for a second term?
Cleveland in his second stint?
LBJ, technically?
Just seems so rare to have a major candidate that most people seem to believe won't possibly be in office eight years from now, if elected.
The last time a party held power for 16 (technically 20) years was 80-90 years ago FDR/Truman. Good luck with that in the hyperpoliticized society we live in today.RNC - Haley/Scott/Crenshaw - I'd imagine there's going to be a huge pocket of people looking towards Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka, Jared, Barron and Tiffany to lead them......but I'd imagine most sensible Republicans would be tired of the Trump name. Haley/Scott/Crenshaw is formidable, makes sense....and is attractive to the Center.
DNC - Harder to see mainly because we don't know the players yet. After Biden goes 8 and Harris goes 8....the DNC might not look like it does now. Pete will be 58. AOC will be 48. Duckworth will be 70. I'm sure there are some Democrats just starting out right now in their first State races that will be attractive.....but we need to see them in action. I'd say Pete has the best chance....but he might be on the Supreme Court by then.
Such will be the results of 4 years of The Don.The last time a party held power for 16 (technically 20) years was 80-90 years ago FDR/Truman. Good luck with that in the hyperpoliticized society we live in today.
I agree! I would rather have Harris go against Trump instead of Joe. Joe has been looking so old and am worried he will not come off well tonight. Harris would do much better, but she will probably be POTUS in 2 years anyway if Joe wins.That isn't true, she ran out of money. And if you think she is so horrible just watch the debate next week with Pence. I wish she was also allowed to face Trump tonight, along with Joe.
He will come off fine tonight. And I didn't say that I thought Harris would do better.I agree! I would rather have Harris go against Trump instead of Joe. Joe has been looking so old and am worried he will not come off well tonight. Harris would do much better, but she will probably be POTUS in 2 years anyway if Joe wins.