Godsbrother
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I won't feel better until the end of the week
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NFL and Covid Issues - Initially Asked in Shark Pool To Keep it 100% NFL (1 Viewer)
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Doug B
Footballguy
Point taken. Still think Vikings defenders were largely in the clear from outside-air aerosol spread from Dillon's breath. Droplet spread, of course, is another matter.
I think it'll prove out that Dillon was more of a risk to his teammates than to opponents and that it will be the Packers' players who take the brunt here.
"active player?" So does that mean guys like ODB, Chubb, etc aren't in this category? Or does this mean active vs practice squad?
WTF do they have to make this so nebulous? I get that teams can't give out this information without the player's consent, but it's going to come out eventually anyway (when the player gets put on the COVID list), so what's with all the cloak and dagger stuff?
WTF do they have to make this so nebulous? I get that teams can't give out this information without the player's consent, but it's going to come out eventually anyway (when the player gets put on the COVID list), so what's with all the cloak and dagger stuff?
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
How is this even possible?
What is the point of taking the test if you are not going to look at the results?
Just another example of the NFL cutting corners on their safety protocol and enabling the teams to get away with crap like this.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Sure...but to this point, has there been any confirmed case of spread during the course of play? I thought I had read that that has not been an issue thus far in the season (or even in college football)?
Biabreakable
Footballguy
The Vikings got lucky they didn't have any cases when they played against Tennessee, hopefully they will be again.
I don't think there is less risk of catching the virus when exposed to it on the field as opposed to off the field.
I am sure teams are hiding information about this as much as they can.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Sure...not saying anything is more or less likely...just that I thought thus far they have not confirmed any spread via game play.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Pipes
Footballguy
It's not teams getting away with anything it's the nature of the testing. I don't think the results are available until Sunday evening/Monday morning. This is a NFL issue not a particular team's.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Down Under
Footballguy
Are we talking about tests that are taken Sunday morning? Of course they are not going to know the results by gametime.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Okay I guess I misunderstood the timing of the tests and how soon the teams get the results. Thanks guys for pointing out that detail that I missed.
Just my natural instinct I guess to expect bending of rules and safety guidelines for some ones gain or benefit. It happens all the time.
Just my natural instinct I guess to expect bending of rules and safety guidelines for some ones gain or benefit. It happens all the time.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Exactly. Everyone should be getting these tests regularly. Overtest if anything. But they don't just grow on trees, or overnight. Still, we have been dealing with this problem for almost an entire calendar year. Seems like this should just be standard procedure by now.
The Frankman
Footballguy
That was covered earlier in the thread. The FDA just approved the Quidel test only 3 weeks ago... I don't think they have enough distribution to cover that many tests yet.
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The Frankman
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1323657281884590081
Pelissero also tweeted that Ravens had no new positives in the last round of testing
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The Frankman
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Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Andy Dalton is on the list and won't play Sunday. I haven't seen if it is for exposure or positive test,
The Frankman
Footballguy
Seven people who will be in a rush to get cleared for Sunday; probably all on D.
EDIT: Very important note here
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Should be able to clear them I think if caught early enough. Packers issue is playing thursday or their two would have been cleared by Saturday I think.
The Frankman
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I'm embarrassed to admit I don't know this
Are there rules (minimum period) for Covid list? Specifically I am asking about Jamaal Williams, whom I guess was exposed to the other RB Dillon, right?
Qs
Are there rules (minimum period) for Covid list? Specifically I am asking about Jamaal Williams, whom I guess was exposed to the other RB Dillon, right?
Qs
- how long does an exposed player have to quarantine? do they have to have say multiple negative tests over a specified period? in this specific instance, when might Williams be eligible to come off the Covid list
- not germane to this situation but if a player tests positive, what are the rules?
- can anyone tell me E Sanders status rn and when he might be active again? is he coming off Covid list this week and playing Sunday?
heckmanm
Footballguy
It's not a 3-week minimum like IR, but I think there's a minimum number of days that they have to go without testing positive.
The issue for the Packers is that they play on Thursday this week. Williams may clear the Covid protocol before Sunday, but can't clear it before Thursday.
sho nuff
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
Meh, would that really help you? If the game gets moved, its just as likely that Jones is ready.
More than likely, unless there are more players that have COVID, I think its very unlikely the game is moved.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The Frankman
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sho nuff
Footballguy
How the league can talk about player safety and then you have no WRs for one side and no RBs for the other (when you have put off these games til Sunday or Monday before)...its crazy.
joey
Footballguy
The league should do the same thing they did when the Raiders had their whole O-line out...pull the game FORWARD to tonight!
gruecd
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
It's a fair point and the rules on what the protocols would be WHEN(not IF) there were positive tests should have clearly been laid out before the season began.
What causes a delay. What moves a game back. What causes a cancellation. This whole nonsense, "Well gosh who in 2020 could have POSSIBLY have guessed that there would be positive covid tests and some point!?" is as absolutely idiotic today as it was in July and August.
Seemed obvious before the season began to some of us.
The Frankman
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Feels like we’re on the brink of this maybe going pear shaped....
The NFL appears to have adopted the “move along, nothing to see here” approach - just pushing through with games regardless now since they have no option now unless they really mess with the schedule. It’s like they’re thinking “we’ve made it half way. Just keep going!”
The NFL appears to have adopted the “move along, nothing to see here” approach - just pushing through with games regardless now since they have no option now unless they really mess with the schedule. It’s like they’re thinking “we’ve made it half way. Just keep going!”
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knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Tonight’s game should be moved to later in the weekend However, it appears the NFL is changing course and trying to make teams play with what they have before an outbreak is the speculation
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/11/04/trent-williams-brandon-aiyuk-will-miss-thursday-nights-game-due-to-contact-with-kendrick-bourne/
Trent Williams, Brandon Aiyuk will miss Thursday night’s game due to contact with Kendrick Bourne
Posted by Mike Florio on November 4, 2020, 7:44 PM EST
The 49ers are more like the 29ers this year.
Already grossly shorthanded due to injury, San Francisco will lose two more players based on their contact with COVID-19 positive receiver Kendrick Bourne.
The 49ers officially have placed tackle Trent Williams and receiver Brandon Aiyuk on the COVID-19/reserve list as high-risk close contacts with Bourne. Receiver Deebo Samuel, who already was due to miss the game because of injury, also will be placed on the COVID-19 reserve list based on contact with Bourne.
And so, among others, the 49ers won’t have their top three receivers, their top tight end, their top tailbacks, their top quarterback, and their starting left tackle, among others on Thursday night against the Packers.
Why is the game proceeding, you ask? The league’s main focus is getting the games played. Even if it would be more “fair” to the 49ers to bump the game to Monday or Tuesday, the situation could get worse by then. Starting with the Buccaneers-Raiders game from Week Seven, the league began to convey a clear priority and preference to get the games played, even if one team will be woefully unprepared for it.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/11/04/trent-williams-brandon-aiyuk-will-miss-thursday-nights-game-due-to-contact-with-kendrick-bourne/
Trent Williams, Brandon Aiyuk will miss Thursday night’s game due to contact with Kendrick Bourne
Posted by Mike Florio on November 4, 2020, 7:44 PM EST
The 49ers are more like the 29ers this year.
Already grossly shorthanded due to injury, San Francisco will lose two more players based on their contact with COVID-19 positive receiver Kendrick Bourne.
The 49ers officially have placed tackle Trent Williams and receiver Brandon Aiyuk on the COVID-19/reserve list as high-risk close contacts with Bourne. Receiver Deebo Samuel, who already was due to miss the game because of injury, also will be placed on the COVID-19 reserve list based on contact with Bourne.
And so, among others, the 49ers won’t have their top three receivers, their top tight end, their top tailbacks, their top quarterback, and their starting left tackle, among others on Thursday night against the Packers.
Why is the game proceeding, you ask? The league’s main focus is getting the games played. Even if it would be more “fair” to the 49ers to bump the game to Monday or Tuesday, the situation could get worse by then. Starting with the Buccaneers-Raiders game from Week Seven, the league began to convey a clear priority and preference to get the games played, even if one team will be woefully unprepared for it.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Even without Covid the 49ers weren't likely to field a competitive team due to injuries. If moving the game to Monday or Tuesday would allow the two Covid players to participate then fine but if not they might as well play the game as scheduled.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
The league seems to think that their contact tracing is now robust enough that they can isolate not only the positive player, but those most likely to be part of an outbreak due to that player, assuming an outbreak would occur at all, which it might not.
If a position group is hobbled like WR or LB, then too bad - we're playing the game. It surely might affect who wins or loses, but won't increase the likelihood of injury for those that do play the game.
The only situation I think that warrants a reschedule based on position group is the offensive line - if you can't field 8 healthy guys, there's a real risk of getting QB's and RB's knocked out for weeks or months. And the NFL does not want any QB's going down to injury.
If a position group is hobbled like WR or LB, then too bad - we're playing the game. It surely might affect who wins or loses, but won't increase the likelihood of injury for those that do play the game.
The only situation I think that warrants a reschedule based on position group is the offensive line - if you can't field 8 healthy guys, there's a real risk of getting QB's and RB's knocked out for weeks or months. And the NFL does not want any QB's going down to injury.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Completely agree, The problem is they don't have another two teams they can force to be ready and play tonight and they are not going to lose out on the revenue of a Thursday night game not being played.
It is clearly $$ over player safety.
This all could have been solved if they wouldn't have hidden their heads in the sand from day one and created a schedule that had two byes built in for each team, so they could have had more flexibility to move games around. It is too far down the road at this point to change anything.
Pipes
Footballguy
Not me. The NFL doesn't care about it's players it's all about the $$$$ and they want that Thurs night TV revenue.
