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NFL and Covid Issues - Initially Asked in Shark Pool To Keep it 100% NFL (4 Viewers)
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The General
Footballguy
Very likely this is a thing on every team (and I'm sure at many bars, restaurants, etc where people show a pic of a vax card).themeistersinger said:
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Funny how the people against an overbearing government keep taking actions that will push the government to become more and more overbearing. If this doesn't fizzle out they will mandate a mobile app as the only allowed proof of vax.
Insein
Footballguy
What the hell kind of logic is this?
"If she didn't want to get beat more she should have just done what she was told the first time. Now I have to beat her harder."
Max Power
Footballguy
11 players registered a positive test, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter, jeopardizing their status for Week 14.
Here are the 11 names:
Chargers WR Keenan Allen
Saints DE Cameron Jordan
Bills LB A.J. Klein
Packers QB Jordan Love
Raiders RB Jalen Richard
Lions OL Evan Brown
Giants OL Wes Martin
Panthers OL Trent Scott
Browns TE Stephen Carlson
Buccaneers LS Zach Triner
Jets LB Blake Cashman
New daily record? Good job NFL.
Here are the 11 names:
Chargers WR Keenan Allen
Saints DE Cameron Jordan
Bills LB A.J. Klein
Packers QB Jordan Love
Raiders RB Jalen Richard
Lions OL Evan Brown
Giants OL Wes Martin
Panthers OL Trent Scott
Browns TE Stephen Carlson
Buccaneers LS Zach Triner
Jets LB Blake Cashman
New daily record? Good job NFL.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Will be interesting to see how the NFL deals with omicron running rampant through rosters come playoff time, especially if it is determined the variant is relatively harmless and positive players are asymptomatic.
Max Power
Footballguy
I think they need to re-evaluate their policy. It's looking more and more like Omicron is going to be extremely transmissible, with mild symptoms. It looks like it evades the vaccines to a certain degree as well.
Is holding players out for no symptoms, a runny nose or dry cough really in the best interest of the league?
Insein
Footballguy
Is there even a reliable way to quickly determine what variant you have of Covid?
Stealthycat
Footballguy
vaccinated, he would need two negative tests 24 hours apart and need to be asymptomatic for 48 hours before he can return. If unvaccinated, he would have to stay away from the team for a minimum of 10 days.
can anyone explain to me how shots helps makes a covid positive person faster to get over being sick than a non-shot person who's equally sick getting over being sick ?
because I don't get it
can anyone explain to me how shots helps makes a covid positive person faster to get over being sick than a non-shot person who's equally sick getting over being sick ?
because I don't get it
The General
Footballguy
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
so is has nothing to do with keeping the virus from spreading and keeping people safe - gotcha
The General
Footballguy
A bunch of unvaxed dudes breathing all over each other while they grab one another for hours a day is probably not the best idea.
There seems to be a lot more players missing games due to covid this year than last year.
The General
Footballguy
Probably. People are doing whatever they want now as opposed to last year. Bars, concerts, etc.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I don’t get why this is still a point of discussion. The rules are the same as they were when this thread started. It’s not like the NFL did this for political reasons. They have a massive cash cow, suffered some losses last season, and this was their response. For better or worse, they went with a policy that very strongly favors vaccination and penalizes players and teams who choose not to be vaccinated. It’s a multibillion industry, so I’m sure they did their due diligence in coming up with this policy.
For me, the interesting thing will be if they make any changes based on new developments or new information. Anyone making these decisions, for a company, school, etc., knows it’s a fast moving train, ever-changing, and you have to be willing to accept that sometimes a decision you made a couple weeks ago is no longer valid. The only certainty is that, no matter what you decide, a significant portion of your constituency will be pissed off and think you’re an idiot.
But you said this "A bunch of unvaxed dudes breathing all over each other while they grab one another for hours a day is probably not the best idea. "
That hasnt changed between this year and last year except the vaxxed part.
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The General
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
they're young healthy people - they're 99.99% not going to get covid
of course, what we're really talking about (you dismissed it) is that covid positive/sick players get treated very differently
Stealthycat
Footballguy
bingo
it isn't about safety, it isn't about health
its about money
thank you - at least someone is being honest
The General
Footballguy
Seems like more than 99.9% of them have tested positive this year.
Of course Covid positive players will get treated differently, that’s the whole point - they want to have players on the field.
The General
Footballguy
Of course. I only see this being difficult for the antivax crowd for lack of a better term. The NFL wanted as many people in the building vaxed as possible, if you didn’t here’s a bunch of other stuff you had to do.
The General
Footballguy
A bunch of unvaxed players in close contact will be more prone to catching Covid and having it blowup on a team than a bunch of vaxed players.
The General
Footballguy
I mean it’s worked out pretty well. Full season, full stands, etc.
We’ll see what happens as the playoffs get here. May see teams put their QBs in those hamster bubbles.
We had a full season last year and the stand have nothing to do with the NFLs player vaccine policy and more to do with government restrictions being lifted. Bottom line is more players seemed to have missed games due to COVID this year than last.
The General
Footballguy
This all comes down are you more likely to test positive for Covid if you have been exposed and are unvaxed. That’s a yes, right?
Hence this business, where their employees breath all over each other and wrestle for hours, wanted as many employees vaxed as possible.
Is it? I think it depends on how long ago you have had your 2nd shot and if you are boosted.
Dickies
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
Vaccination elicit antibodies --> antibodies are then present 'in advance' to jump on new infections --> new infections are then sharply reduced in duration.
I know you don't buy in to it ... but that's the Cliffs Notes.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I haven't seen any numbers but it sure feels like there are more than at this time last season, when there were a few team-wide outbreaks (Tenn, Baltimore) early on but things had mostly calmed down by the playoffs.
If that is true, I have no idea why it would be so. Players are being less careful? There are way more Antonio Browns out there than we realize?
Because the vax sucks and doesn't prevent infection?I haven't seen any numbers but it sure feels like there are more than at this time last season, when there were a few team-wide outbreaks (Tenn, Baltimore) early on but things had mostly calmed down by the playoffs.
If that is true, I have no idea why it would be so. Players are being less careful? There are way more Antonio Browns out there than we realize?
themeistersinger
Footballguy
The whole world is being less careful, I think. Fatigue set in a long time ago, people assumed the worst was past, and numbers in general are going up across the country. Kids are in school this year and weren't last year, so more chance of them contracting it and spreading, even if they only rarely get seriously ill themselves, and lots of players do have young kids.I haven't seen any numbers but it sure feels like there are more than at this time last season, when there were a few team-wide outbreaks (Tenn, Baltimore) early on but things had mostly calmed down by the playoffs.
If that is true, I have no idea why it would be so. Players are being less careful? There are way more Antonio Browns out there than we realize?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Do you really mean “and” there?jobarules said:
After 6 to 8 months it seems to be the case. The NFL is gonna be in crisis mode soon. I thought I remember seeing most NFL players got the worthless J&J vaccine.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
but once a person is infected - they are just as contagious regardless of shot status
I noticed even more "vaccinated" NFL players out this week. Crazy the infection rate of a vaccinated group isn't it ?
it aint very very low
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Pretty sure people have made this point to him over and over again, and yet he keeps repeating it
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Yes
It's more than the entire month's of October and September and double the previous in season high.
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